Moveset Help & Other Questions

Justintyler22 said:

What about forretress? what are the recommended IV spread for him?

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0 Speed, with 31 everywhere else (or at least in the 20-30 range if you can't be bothered going for full flawless IVs)

PlatinumDude said:

0 Speed, with 31 everywhere else (or at least in the 20-30 range if you can't be bothered going for full flawless IVs)

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You can also go for a random one in Sp. Attack. So 31/31/31/x/31/0 (Unless you're using the Volt Switch one, though a few points won't help it any lol)

Im having an issue with arcanine...

I have a growlith currently lvl 28 and im going to evolve it into arcanine and this is what it was...

-Flare Blitz
-Extreme Speed
-Wild Charge/Crunch
-Close Combat
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 72 HP/252 Atk/4 SDef/176 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt
Ability: Intimidate/Flash Fire

I reciently figured out that close combat and wild charge is an egg move.
so when should i evolve my growlith and what should that 4th move be?
If i evolve it after growlith learns crunch, can i still get extreme speed via heart scale?

Justintyler22 said:

Im having an issue with arcanine...

I have a growlith currently lvl 28 and im going to evolve it into arcanine and this is what it was...

-Flare Blitz
-Extreme Speed
-Wild Charge/Crunch
-Close Combat
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 72 HP/252 Atk/4 SDef/176 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt
Ability: Intimidate/Flash Fire

I reciently figured out that close combat and wild charge is an egg move.
so when should i evolve my growlith and what should that 4th move be?
If i evolve it after growlith learns crunch, can i still get extreme speed via heart scale?

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Yes, if you evolve Growlithe if it has Crunch, Extreme Speed will become one of Arcanine's Heart Scale moves.

Arcanine or Rapidash

would love any input on which nature/move set would compliment both a physical & special sweeper of both species

munkie said:

would love any input on which nature/move set would compliment both a physical & special sweeper of both species

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If you're referring to Arcanine and Rapidash: A Special set for Arcanine should use Sunny Day. Both are better off using physical moves, though, especially Rapidash:

Arcanine:
(see Justintyler22's post for physical set)

Special set:
-Sunny Day
-Fire Blast/Flamethrower
-Solar Beam
-Morning Sun
Nature: Modest
EVs: 192 HP/248 SAtk/4 SDef/64 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb/Heat Rock
Ability: Intimidate

Rapidash:
-Flare Blitz
-Wild Charge
-Low Kick
-Morning Sun/Baton Pass
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Choice Band
Ability: Flash Fire

Is using Gardevoir a viable for competitive it being a Fairy and all?

AdrianD said:

Is using Gardevoir a viable for competitive it being a Fairy and all?

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Gardevoir is more improved than before, now that it's a Fairy. It's no longer weak to Bug and Dark, giving it an easier time against Pursuit users, as well as Bugs like Heracross. The 4x Fighting resistance is also helpful. Gardevoir's Mega Evolution is also faster than its regular form, so it's an improvement if you don't mind giving up your Mega slot for it.

PlatinumDude said:

Gardevoir is more improved than before, now that it's a Fairy. It's no longer weak to Bug and Dark, giving it an easier time against Pursuit users, as well as Bugs like Heracross. The 4x Fighting resistance is also helpful. Gardevoir's Mega Evolution is also faster than its regular form, so it's an improvement if you don't mind giving up your Mega slot for it.

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Would you say its mega form is something you can have a core team around. I was thinking of having it with a Garchomp on my team. Not an opening team just have them on same team.

This is what I was thinking for an Gardevoir

Gardevoir - Timid - Gardevoirite
252 Sp Atk; 252 Spd ; 4 Hp

MoonBlast
Shadow Sneak
Psywave
Calm mind

AdrianD said:

Would you say its mega form is something you can have a core team around. I was thinking of having it with a Garchomp on my team. Not an opening team just have them on same team.

This is what I was thinking for an Gardevoir

Gardevoir - Timid - Gardevoirite
252 Sp Atk; 252 Spd ; 4 Hp

MoonBlast
Shadow Sneak
Psywave
Calm mind

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You don't want Psywave and Shadow Sneak on Gardevoir ever. Hyper Voice (if you have access to it) is better than Moonblast because Pixilate gives a 30% damage boost on top of STAB for the moves it affects.

Keiran777 said:

You don't want Psywave and Shadow Sneak on Gardevoir ever. Hyper Voice (if you have access to it) is better than Moonblast because Pixilate gives a 30% damage boost on top of STAB for the moves it affects.

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Pixilate only gives the 30% boost to the Normal moves it converts to Fairy. Mega Gardevoir is mainly used for the higher Speed and special bulk over its normal form:
-Calm Mind
-Moonblast/Psychic
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Gardevoirite
Ability: Trace

To add, Psywave shouldn't be bothered with at all because it does varying fixed damage based on the level on the opponent, hence it doesn't benefit from Calm Mind's Special Attack boost. And Shadow Sneak is incredibly weak coming off of uninvested 65 or 85 Attack. Gallade makes better use of it because of its higher Attack.

Is this set ok?

Manetric (Timid, Lightning rod)
Item: Manetricnite
Electro ball
Flamethrower
Hidden Power Ice
Subsitute

6Hp/252SpAtk/252Spd

Helios93 said:

Is this set ok?

Manetric (Timid, Lightning rod)
Item: Manetricnite
Electro ball
Flamethrower
Hidden Power Ice
Subsitute

6Hp/252SpAtk/252Spd

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Electro Ball isn't worth using because it doesn't do much against opponents that barely fall short of Manectric's 105/135 Speed. Thunderbolt is still the superior option.

Also, here's Smogon's reason never to use Electro Ball:

Electro Ball has little to no competitive use. Unless used by exceptionally fast Pokemon on extremely slow targets, the move will often be outdamaged by more reliable choices, such as Thunderbolt or Discharge.

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I'm not sure why Sub would be used on something that lacks Leftovers recovery, but here's a better alternative:
-Thunderbolt
-Volt Switch
-Overheat/Flamethrower
-Hidden Power (Ice)/Protect
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Manectite
Ability: Lightning Rod

Got a shiny Diggersby with Pickup (alternatively Cheek Pouch), obviously not that great of an attacker, so any defensive sets to consider?

Flush'd said:

Got a shiny Diggersby with Pickup (alternatively Cheek Pouch), obviously not that great of an attacker, so any defensive sets to consider?

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If I were you, Diggersby shouldn't be bothered with unless it has Huge Power, but if you insist:
-Spikes (egg move)
-Earthquake
-Return
-Toxic
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
Item: Leftovers

Which Fire would be better Charizard or Pyroar for fire? I know that heatran is best how ever since it cant be RNG at this moment...

AdrianD said:

Which Fire would be better Charizard or Pyroar for fire? I know that heatran is best how ever since it cant be RNG at this moment...

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Charizard is better because of its better move pool in comparison to Pyroar, who has terrible abilities (Moxie is wasted on a special attacker)

Moveset help?

Just need help with the moveset of my Talonflame, Vaporeon, and Mega Gengar.
I heard that Vaporeon can't learn Wish any more, but i really want my Vaporeon to be the medic of the team... is it true? Thanks in advanced! :)

Dragonkid0207 said:

Just need help with the moveset of my Talonflame, Vaporeon, and Mega Gengar.
I heard that Vaporeon can't learn Wish any more, but i really want my Vaporeon to be the medic of the team... is it true? Thanks in advanced! :)

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No. Vaporeon can still learn Wish. It can be passed down by chain breeding or having Smeargle Sketch the move:
-Wish
-Protect
-Scald
-Ice Beam/Toxic
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb

Talonflame sets:
-Swords Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Brave Bird
-Roost/Will-o-Wisp/Tailwind
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 192 HP/252 Atk/4 Def/60 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Sky Plate/Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings

or
-Flare Blitz
-Brave Bird
-U-turn
-Will-o-Wisp/Tailwind
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 192 HP/252 Atk/4 Def/60 Spe
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings

Mega Gengar:
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-Focus Blast
-Destiny Bond/Taunt
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Gengarite

PlatinumDude said:

Pixilate only gives the 30% boost to the Normal moves it converts to Fairy.

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Yes, thats what I said. :) And since MegaGardevoir has Pixilate, Hyper Voice (117 BP) deals more damage than Moonblast. (If you have access to it. No particular meta was stated.)