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New OU team, let's build off it.

14Henderson7

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Newest Update Info: Few changes were made. Decided to try Aerodactyl for his Speed. Azelf wasn't doing so much. Tentacruel over Gorebyss for Toxic and Spinning. Plus, he's bulky. Chose this EV Spread for him so he can take both Special and Physical hits equally. Going to see how it plays out. Gave Hax and Lucario Choice items since no need for Gorebyss to Pass any stat changes. Gyarados and Breloom stayed the same because they're awesome.
 
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Miss Doronjo

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I really reccomend screens for this team, if your using shell smash passing. What you can do is have your Azelf with this moveset:

Azelf @ Light Clay
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- U-turn / Explosion
- Light Screen
- Reflect

This way, with screens up, your smergle will have an easier time smash passing, as it won't get picked off by a piority move from Scizor or Conckledurr.

Alternatively, instead of smergle, you can also run a Smash pass Gorebyss:

Gorebyss @ White Herb
Trait: Hydration
EVs: 252 HP / 24 SpD / 232 Spd
Calm Nature
- Shell Smash
- Surf
- Subsistute / Ice Beam
- Baton Pass

Gorebyss is bulker than smergle, so it'll theorietically have an easier time smash passing. It can also serve as a sweeper if you feel up to it, but it's up to you on what you decide to do. Or, just incase, you might want to try Taunt on Smergle, as it'll prevent Skarmory from blowing you away., as well as preventing Celebi or Politoad from Perish Songing.


I also reccomend Seed Bomb > Facade on Breloom, to pick off Unaware Quagsire, as well as maybe having Dragon Dance on Haxorus, just incase Smash passing doesn't work out too well during the battle.

...Buuuut those were my thoughts anywho; good luck! This team looks really cool~
 
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Ho-Oh

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(yay completely different ideas lol)

Instead of a spinner, you could just use Espeon, and make use of Magic Bounce, reflecting back the hazards at the appropriate times, and allowing yourself a second baton passer in case Smeargle fails (only Calm Mind but hey, it could definitely help out Chandelure).

Espeon@Leftovers
Magic Bounce
252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Stored Power
- Hidden Power Fighting

You could also use a steel type as dragons can pretty much sweep your team with nothing to oppose it once the boosts from Smeargle disappear (plus it'd help you out with ice types which'd hurt Haxorus/Breloom). If you were to go with Espeon somewhere in the team, you'd kinda be pretty weak to ghost/dark, so to kinda get over that, you could go with Jirachi as a lead instead with SR (on the specially defensive set) and keep Gyarados so you have something immune to EQ which could harm Jirachi/Chandelure.

Jirachi@Leftovers
Serene Grace
252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe
Careful
- Iron Head
- Body Slam / Thunder Wave
- Wish
- Stealth Rock

But yeah, just a few other things you could do other than what Doronjo said! I definitely do suggest a steel on there somewhere because you really won't regret it. :x
 
Dark Azelf

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Pretty much what they said, especially about the steel or Outrage/Draco Meteor anything will 6-0 you.

Also Bulk Up Loom >>>>>>>>> Sub loom.

Breloom@ Toxic Orb
236 HP / 212 Sp.Def / 60 Speed
Careful Nature
Trait: Poison Heal
- Bulk Up
- Drain Punch
- Seed Bomb
- Spore

Less easily walled/stopped and more power. Also benefits more from smashpassing.

Also change Azelfs set.

Azelf @ Life Orb
6 Atk / 252 Sp.Att / 252 Speed
Naive Nature
- Psyshock
- Fire Blast
- Stealth Rock
- U-Turn

Much better coverage and more power. Explosion sucks all kind of ass this gen.

Hope this helps, good luck.
 

PlatinumDude

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Uh...what's up with Lucario's set? I know that Lucario has good offensive stats, but its Speed really needs help here (90 Speed is decent, but it somewhat falls short. Lucario has priority, which helps make up for it). IMO, it should stick to one offense or the other:
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-ExtremeSpeed
-Crunch/Ice Punch/Stone Edge/Bullet Punch
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Nasty Plot
-Aura Sphere
-Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball
-Vacuum Wave/Hidden Power (Ice)
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

If you don't want the priority, then Lucario can always use a Choice Scarf or Agility:
-Close Combat
-Crunch
-Ice Punch
-Stone Edge
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Agility
-Close Combat/Hi Jump Kick
-Crunch
-Ice Punch
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

I have a feeling that Haxorus should be using a Choice Band or Dragon Dance, the former for more raw power and the latter for giving its average Speed a boost.
 
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