Why I think The World Ends With You is overrated (yes I toned down the flame baiting)

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    The World Ends With You is an Action RPG made by Jupiter. And if you noticed, there are about 200 people on this website with an avatar, name or signature paying homage to said game. After playing it, what's the hubbub? It's not even average, it's below average. And instead of rewriting my thread, I'll just do a commentary on apple.SHAMPOO's comment.

    Obvious trolling for attention thread is obvious.

    How am I trolling? Trolling is when you say something with no other purpose other than to annoy someone? I was flamebaiting, there's a difference.

    Move along people, nothing to see here~

    Seriously though; in an RPG the gameplay isn't the one thing that matters. Sure, it does count for something - but that's like trying to quantify to "readability" of a book or something.

    Wait a minute. What? Let me put it in a Pie Chart of what matters in a video game.

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    TWEWY isn't a perfect game; but it did bring together the RPG trinity:

    Excellent Characters
    Intriguing Storyline
    Wonderful Music
    Gameplay? Nah, gameplay doesn't matter.

    The fact that the gameplay may be a little off-beat isn't a consideration

    I never considered that to begin with.

    ; the media elements that make you want to come back to play again are all there and all gel in a cohesive and wonderful manner. Pretty much zero RPG's have stellar gameplay

    Chrono Trigger, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Pokemon?

    - but they don't need to;

    Yes they do.

    they've got other assets to whet your appetite for more. And that's the grade of an excellent RPG;

    The grade of any game is gameplay.

    if it can make you come back after you've finished playing for the day.

    _________________________________

    Well, that pretty much sums it up. TWEWY's gameplay is both boring and schizophrenic so people tell me. Why do you think TWEWY is a great game?
     
    I had it before and to be fair it was a good game, I just disliked it because I thought I'd completed it and it landed me back in Shibuya. I wouldnt of minded that but then it got a bit too hard.

    I can see why people like it.

    The graphics need a larger portion of your pie by the way. D:
     
    Gameplay certainly matters and I thought TWEWY had excellent gameplay. :( The only issue I had with it was that cutscenes had virtually no interaction whatsoever but... that's where the story and characters shine--if you like the characters and are into the story, you don't mind so much when you come across a cutscene that pulls you away from the gameplay.

    By gameplay, though, I'm assuming you mean the battle system. So okay, I'll bite. What was wrong with it? You control two screens--top and bottom. It gets a bit hectic but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty fun. If you don't get the hang of it, or don't want to bother with the top screen, the game takes over for you. If you find it all too easy, you can bump down your level or up the difficulty or some combination of the two. Factor in pins and there's virtually infinite ways to play the game. I'm just not seeing this lack of gameplay. It's the only RPG I've ever had so much fun grinding in. I could literally sit there and play for hours just fighting over and over. I often had to forcibly pull myself away from the Noise to go advance the plot because I was spending too much time fighting.

    Don't wanna be blunt, but you're coming off as someone who just sucked at the game and would rather blame it on the battle system. (Which if you argue it right, is a perfectly valid argument, but you're doing it wrong.)

    But! While gameplay is definitely an important aspect of any game (or else it wouldn't be called a game), it's not the only thing to consider. In TWEWY, part of the charm was that it was so different in EVERY aspect. Instead of a fantastical setting, it put you smack dab in an urban centre with very modern characters and themes--something most people can instantly relate to. The character designs were striking and not the same old BELTS 'N' ZIPPERS that we've come to expect from Nomura. The plot was intriguing and compelling. Instead of just following the same formula that every other RPG follows, it broke the mold and tried something new. Even the music was radically different from what you expect from an RPG--and a JRPG at that.

    Sure, it did some things wrong. Every game does. But for the amount it did right and the amount of fresh air it breathed into the genre, it doesn't feel too overrated to me. Mind you, it's one of my favourite games so I know I'm looking at it with bias but if gameplay (one of my favourite parts of the game) is the only thing you have against it... I have to respectfully disagree.

    Your pie chart looks like it was made for puzzle games, btw. In this day and age, if you're making a game that's any more advanced than Bejewelled or Tetris, it almost NEEDS characters, plot, or tasteful graphics. But that's an argument for another thread.

    Also TWEWY has Sho Minamimoto. Q.E.D.
     
    I too think gameplay is the most important factor in a game, but not as big as your pie chart makes it out to be. The gameplay should take up maybe half the pie chart? I think the other aspects are important. They take what's great about the gameplay and make it a unique experience. A world full of life for you to play in.

    However, I dislike when those other factors take precedence. There are some games that feel like they're more style over substance - not that the gameplay is necessarily bad in those games, just that in playing it it feels like it's taken a backseat to everything else. There needs to be a balance. I don't want to play through a book and I don't want to play through a tech demo.

    And some people like that, which is fine for them. Everyone likes different things. Not my cup of tea, but still.

    That aside.... as far as TWEWY goes...

    My disappointment with it, can mostly be blammed on that when I went to play it I was expecting some unbelievably OMG fantastic brilliant masterpiece of a game based on how much I heard about it, how much people love, and all the hype around it.

    And then I played it. It wasn't a bad game at all. I was just pumped and ready to be blown away....and then I wasn't. I think I should replay again with a clearer head so I can appreciate it more. Because I can't see what the big deal is.

    I didn't hate the game. I liked the story (although a little repetitive), I liked the characters, I like the graphics/style. I did not like the music at all. I played on mute most of the time XD

    I thought the gameplay was fine. It was unique, different, and fun. While perhaps a little busy at times, it worked well for the game after a short adjustment period. It's not something I wish more games played like, but it was fine. It worked and it did it's job as vessel in carrying the story and game along. If I ever got tired of something, I could switch up pins and go about battling in a different manner. I don't think the gameplay was mind-blowingly brilliant, but I don't think it was awful or non-existent either.

    I think it was a good game. It was well-made, looked great, the atmosphere and feeling was perfect, and it played well. I enjoyed it. I didn't love it. It's not one of my favourite games. I think it's overrated too, but I don't think it's awful. Just...not godly.
     
    Gameplay certainly matters and I thought TWEWY had excellent gameplay. :( The only issue I had with it was that cutscenes had virtually no interaction whatsoever but... that's where the story and characters shine--if you like the characters and are into the story, you don't mind so much when you come across a cutscene that pulls you away from the gameplay.

    By gameplay, though, I'm assuming you mean the battle system. So okay, I'll bite. What was wrong with it? You control two screens--top and bottom. It gets a bit hectic but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty fun. If you don't get the hang of it, or don't want to bother with the top screen, the game takes over for you. If you find it all too easy, you can bump down your level or up the difficulty or some combination of the two. Factor in pins and there's virtually infinite ways to play the game. I'm just not seeing this lack of gameplay. It's the only RPG I've ever had so much fun grinding in. I could literally sit there and play for hours just fighting over and over. I often had to forcibly pull myself away from the Noise to go advance the plot because I was spending too much time fighting.

    Don't wanna be blunt, but you're coming off as someone who just sucked at the game and would rather blame it on the battle system. (Which if you argue it right, is a perfectly valid argument, but you're doing it wrong.)

    But! While gameplay is definitely an important aspect of any game (or else it wouldn't be called a game), it's not the only thing to consider. In TWEWY, part of the charm was that it was so different in EVERY aspect. Instead of a fantastical setting, it put you smack dab in an urban centre with very modern characters and themes--something most people can instantly relate to. The character designs were striking and not the same old BELTS 'N' ZIPPERS that we've come to expect from Nomura. The plot was intriguing and compelling. Instead of just following the same formula that every other RPG follows, it broke the mold and tried something new. Even the music was radically different from what you expect from an RPG--and a JRPG at that.

    Sure, it did some things wrong. Every game does. But for the amount it did right and the amount of fresh air it breathed into the genre, it doesn't feel too overrated to me. Mind you, it's one of my favourite games so I know I'm looking at it with bias but if gameplay (one of my favourite parts of the game) is the only thing you have against it... I have to respectfully disagree.

    Your pie chart looks like it was made for puzzle games, btw. In this day and age, if you're making a game that's any more advanced than Bejewelled or Tetris, it almost NEEDS characters, plot, or tasteful graphics. But that's an argument for another thread.

    Also TWEWY has Sho Minamimoto. Q.E.D.

    Ironically enough, it was your sig that pushed me to make this thread. But either way, time pry this testimony open like an acorn.

    You control two screens--top and bottom. It gets a bit hectic but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty fun. If you don't get the hang of it, or don't want to bother with the top screen, the game takes over for you.

    If the computer is going to take it over, what reason does it have for existing? Especially considering that if you have a shared health bar. If your doing fine and the computer makes a mistake, you'd get frustrated. That is stupid. I'm not sure if this happens often, but it's a inevitability that I know is probably true. Having AI controlled partners is stupid, they might mess up. This is why I'm dreading the release of Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2. Not only will it probably be too easy due to the fact there are 2 of you, but slowdown is going to happen.

    Instead of a fantastical setting, it put you smack dab in an urban centre with very modern characters and themes--something most people can instantly relate to. The character designs were striking and not the same old BELTS 'N' ZIPPERS that we've come to expect from Nomura.

    All thanks to Final Fantasy VII. I wish they would permanently hire Akira Toriyama to design the characters. It worked for Chrono Trigger. And striking, just looking at the cover art, it looks like the strange stereo type that FFVII started and that I wish DIED. It's stupid it's annoying, and it got very tiresome, very quickly.

    By gameplay, though, I'm assuming you mean the battle system. So okay, I'll bite. What was wrong with it?

    Let's see. It's schizophrenic, the touch screen isn't close to perfect, why is it so easy to leave a fight, and there are some pins that own and some that don't at all, and the computer sharing your health. If you moved with the D-Pad, this game would have been so much easier to play. You know, you could move and attack at the same time?

    In TWEWY, part of the charm was that it was so different in EVERY aspect.

    Different does not automatically equal good.

    Your pie chart looks like it was made for puzzle games, btw. In this day and age, if you're making a game that's any more advanced than Bejewelled or Tetris, it almost NEEDS characters, plot, or tasteful graphics. But that's an argument for another thread.

    What I meant was characters, plots and graphics are nothing more than bonuses. I feel bad that developers don't see this.

    So basically, the combat could have been better, but it's severe flaws just killed the game for me. If you moved with the D-Pad, this game would have been so much easier to play. You know, you could move and attack at the same time? And another thing:

    Don't wanna be blunt, but you're coming off as someone who just sucked at the game and would rather blame it on the battle system. (Which if you argue it right, is a perfectly valid argument, but you're doing it wrong.)

    Of course I'm blaming the battle system, it matters the most. I don't blame the story, the characters, the very strange music, I'm blaming the game, for the gameplay. That just rolls off the tongue.

    I too think gameplay is the most important factor in a game, but not as big as your pie chart makes it out to be. The gameplay should take up maybe half the pie chart? I think the other aspects are important. They take what's great about the gameplay and make it a unique experience. A world full of life for you to play in.

    However, I dislike when those other factors take precedence. There are some games that feel like they're more style over substance - not that the gameplay is necessarily bad in those games, just that in playing it it feels like it's taken a backseat to everything else. There needs to be a balance. I don't want to play through a book and I don't want to play through a tech demo.

    And some people like that, which is fine for them. Everyone likes different things. Not my cup of tea, but still.

    That aside.... as far as TWEWY goes...

    My disappointment with it, can mostly be blammed on that when I went to play it I was expecting some unbelievably OMG fantastic brilliant masterpiece of a game based on how much I heard about it, how much people love, and all the hype around it.

    And then I played it. It wasn't a bad game at all. I was just pumped and ready to be blown away....and then I wasn't. I think I should replay again with a clearer head so I can appreciate it more. Because I can't see what the big deal is.

    I didn't hate the game. I liked the story (although a little repetitive), I liked the characters, I like the graphics/style. I did not like the music at all. I played on mute most of the time XD

    I thought the gameplay was fine. It was unique, different, and fun. While perhaps a little busy at times, it worked well for the game after a short adjustment period. It's not something I wish more games played like, but it was fine. It worked and it did it's job as vessel in carrying the story and game along. If I ever got tired of something, I could switch up pins and go about battling in a different manner. I don't think the gameplay was mind-blowingly brilliant, but I don't think it was awful or non-existent either.

    I think it was a good game. It was well-made, looked great, the atmosphere and feeling was perfect, and it played well. I enjoyed it. I didn't love it. It's not one of my favourite games. I think it's overrated too, but I don't think it's awful. Just...not godly.

    My disappointment with it, can mostly be blammed on that when I went to play it I was expecting some unbelievably OMG fantastic brilliant masterpiece of a game based on how much I heard about it, how much people love, and all the hype around it.

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    What I'm trying to say is me too! I thought this was going to blow me away but it just blew on my face, rather bothering me. It's like Sonic 06 all over again. Only that just farted, rather than blow and that people on the internet showed me. While I was playing, all I could think of is, "What is so special about this game?" And there is none. Sure it's different but that's not a 'Get out of hate free' card.
     
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    Ironically enough, it was your sig that pushed me to make this thread. But either way, time pry this testimony open like an acorn.
    I figured it was. ;(
    If the computer is going to take it over, what reason does it have for existing? Especially considering that if you have a shared health bar. If your doing fine and the computer makes a mistake, you'd get frustrated. That is stupid. I'm not sure if this happens often, but it's a inevitability that I know is probably true. Having AI controlled partners is stupid, they might mess up. This is why I'm dreading the release of Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2. Not only will it probably be too easy due to the fact there are 2 of you, but slowdown is going to happen.
    If you're doing fine on your own, it's probably a sign that you should start dabbling with the top screen yourself. :) If you care that much about the mistakes the computer makes without you, control the screen yourself! The option is there! I don't see why this is such a detriment? I never had an issue with the computer using up my part of the HP bar--any health problems were always my fault. Guess we can chalk this one up to different experiences but I really liked having both screens to control.
    All thanks to Final Fantasy VII. I wish they would permanently hire Akira Toriyama to design the characters. It worked for Chrono Trigger. And striking, just looking at the cover art, it looks like the strange stereo type that FFVII started and that I wish DIED. It's stupid it's annoying, and it got very tiresome, very quickly.
    Aaah no lol not Toriyama. D: He has good designs but his characters all look EXACTLY THE SAME so I honestly can't take your argument seriously here. Omg all his males look the same, his females look the same, and just... fff. He changes the hair styles and clothes and that's it lmao. I'll take belts 'n' zippers over that any day. (Sorry, I loved Chrono Trigger but for every reason other than the character designs. x_x) But again, this is a difference in tastes.
    Let's see. It's schizophrenic, the touch screen isn't close to perfect, why is it so easy to leave a fight, and there are some pins that own and some that don't at all, and the computer sharing your health. If you moved with the D-Pad, this game would have been so much easier to play. You know, you could move and attack at the same time?
    Again, it sounds like you're whining because you couldn't get the hang of it. D: I didn't find it "schizophrenic" at all. I didn't try the top screen at ALL during the first week since I was still getting the hang of things but from then on I made the effort to use it all the time. There were some issues with moving on the bottom screen and how it'd sometimes clash with your pin functions iirc but I didn't have that problem enough to make it stand out to me later. Try some different pins if you find it frustrating. I dunno, just accept it for what it is and try to work around what you dislike about it. Yes, it could have been better, but it's not as horrible as you make it out to be unless you're seriously just really bad at it. o_O;
    Different does not automatically equal good.
    I know. And the charm was that, for most people, the different was good. Obviously it won't mesh for everyone, but it clicked for the majority of the gaming world who played it.
    What I meant was characters, plots and graphics are nothing more than bonuses. I feel bad that developers don't see this.
    I disagree. If I sit down to play an RPG, a role playing game, I will be immensely disappointed to get what's basically a watered down strategy game with a throw-away plot, uninteresting characters, and horrible graphics. If you think gameplay is THAT important, just play Tetris on your Gameboy and ignore new games. Now that games are becoming more and more popular, and development studios have the money and time to develop games with more advanced plots, intricate characters, and realistic (or stylistically fitting) graphics, they aren't gonna get away with what you seem to think is all a game needs. The industry is moving away from that and with good reason--gaming is becoming, to some extent, interactive storytelling. If you find that pointless, there are plenty of casual games that throw that out the window and give you mindless minigames where basic gameplay is the one and only focus. (Again, this is really a topic for another thread.)
    Don't wanna be blunt, but you're coming off as someone who just sucked at the game and would rather blame it on the battle system. (Which if you argue it right, is a perfectly valid argument, but you're doing it wrong.)

    Of course I'm blaming the battle system, it matters the most. I don't blame the story, the characters, the very strange music, I'm blaming the game, for the gameplay. That just rolls off the tongue.
    Um, I suck at God of War. Like, I really suck. I can't get the hang of the battle system, I find it awkward to move around in, and every time I'd die, the game would ask me if I wanted to lower the difficulty. Does that mean it's a crappy game because I can't get over myself and learn to play properly? No. I can recognize that it's a really good game despite my inability to play it well. There is a difference between complaining about minor intricacies of gameplay that you can't get the hang of and make no effort to learn to deal with/get around and complaining about a genuinely convoluted system with an impossible learning curve. Myself and many others would argue that the latter does not apply to TWEWY (there is a learning curve, and at first it is quite steep, but it levels off if you put effort into it).

    now what do those pictures in your post have to do with anything omg. :|
     
    Let's look at the title of this thread "Why I think TWEWY is overrated" I never said it wasn't the worst game ever, I don't like the game, obviously I'm going to emphasize its flaws rather than its good qualities. The game would get a D+ from me, and the plus is the fact that it's different and the music. Seriously, the third song in the OST sounds more like:

    'Heeeeeeeeeey!
    You're telling me,
    blah blah blah!'

    Also, my pictures. Mii and the other one was Mr. 2. One Piece reference. I said, 'Mii Mr. 2'. Also, your sig changed from the first post to the second, how did you do that?
     
    Why would you even make a thread like this? This is the kind of stuff that just pisses me off. Its only purpose is to bash something that other people like. You didn't like it? Cool, keep it to yourself. If somebody asks your opinion, sure, give it to them. But nobody asked. Nobody wants to hear you bash something that they liked, that connected with them. I've never even played the game, but people do this stuff all the time for games I like. "WHY FINAL FANTASY IS OVERRATED," "WHY ZELDA SUCKS." Just drop it, I don't want to hear about it. The fact is, other people liked the game, and all you're going to do by making something like this is annoy them. I think there's already a thread for bashing games, so if you want to post your hate, go do it there, don't start your own thread about it (not that I think it's any better there than it is here, but at least it's not as much of an eyesore for it to be all in one place). This flamebait by definition: if I made a thread titled "WHY DEMOCRATS/REPUBLICANS ARE WRONG," it would basically be an insta-flamefest, and people would start attacking each other on a personal level. It wouldn't matter if I made the most insightful text about why I thought Democrats/Republicans are wrong and it wouldn't matter that it was "just my opinion." It would still enrage everyone in the opposing group, and that's what's happening here.
     
    Time for me to be both witty and annoying:

    Why would you even make a thread like this?

    Freedom of speech, I can say what I want.
    This is the kind of stuff that just pisses me off. Its only purpose is to bash something that other people like.
    I'm not bashing it, technically, I was bashing apple.SHAMPOO, I'm just wondering why people like it so much because I don't see it.

    You didn't like it? Cool, keep it to yourself.
    I don't have too.

    If somebody asks your opinion, sure, give it to them. But nobody asked.
    If people had to be asked to make a thread, then forum websites wouldn't be here now would they?

    Nobody wants to hear you bash something that they liked, that connected with them.
    What? People who can't take other opinions about anything?

    I've never even played the game, but people do this stuff all the time for games I like.
    Then why are you even here?

    "WHY FINAL FANTASY IS OVERRATED," "WHY ZELDA SUCKS." Just drop it, I don't want to hear about it.
    Then leave, simple as that. If someone bashed One Piece, I would just leave. I wouldn't write an essay about how they're dumb and I'm smart, I'd respect they're opinion.

    The fact is, other people liked the game, and all you're going to do by making something like this is annoy them.
    I'm stating my opinion, if it annoys them, then too bad.

    I think there's already a thread for bashing games, so if you want to post your hate,
    I don't hate the game, I'm just wondering why it's so loved?

    go do it there, don't start your own thread about it
    Freedom. Of. Speach. Deal with it.

    (not that I think it's any better there than it is here, but at least it's not as much of an eyesore for it to be all in one place).
    So, what, your happy with it?

    OPINIONS, RESPECT THEM!
     
    Let's look at the title of this thread "Why I think TWEWY is overrated" I never said it wasn't the worst game ever, I don't like the game, obviously I'm going to emphasize its flaws rather than its good qualities. The game would get a D+ from me, and the plus is the fact that it's different and the music. Seriously, the third song in the OST sounds more like:

    'Heeeeeeeeeey!
    You're telling me,
    blah blah blah!'

    Also, my pictures. Mii and the other one was Mr. 2. One Piece reference. I said, 'Mii Mr. 2'. Also, your sig changed from the first post to the second, how did you do that?
    And obviously I'm going to come in and emphasize its good qualities and call you out when you say things you don't like are flaws. When you say something is overrated, no one will take you seriously unless you're doing it objectively. I've tried to stay objective myself but it's really hard when all I'm getting back is "lolol two screens and you can't move while you attack" which does not make or break the game, despite what you seem to think.

    And um. Okay. :(

    My sig changes because Pi-Face approves of random numbers.
     
    Okay, let me try this again, the gameplay just doesn't stack up to the hype. Once again, I was expecting a masterpiece but all I got was a below average game. The gameplay just wasn't that great. And although I did not play probably as far but wouldn't get repetitive that you have to constantly make the same gestures on the touch screen over and over? Sure, you can blame this on every other RPG but now my wrist is hurting. Not as much as when I played Guitar Hero, but it hurts nonetheless.
     
    Time for me to be both witty and annoying:

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    Originally Posted by twocows [PokeCommunity.com] Why I think The World Ends With You is overrated (yes I toned down the flame baiting)
    Why would you even make a thread like this?

    Freedom of speech, I can say what I want.
    This is the kind of stuff that just pisses me off. Its only purpose is to bash something that other people like.
    I'm not bashing it, technically, I was bashing apple.SHAMPOO, I'm just wondering why people like it so much because I don't see it.

    You didn't like it? Cool, keep it to yourself.
    I don't have too.

    If somebody asks your opinion, sure, give it to them. But nobody asked.
    If people had to be asked to make a thread, then forum websites wouldn't be here now would they?

    Nobody wants to hear you bash something that they liked, that connected with them.
    What? People who can't take other opinions about anything?

    I've never even played the game, but people do this stuff all the time for games I like.
    Then why are you even here?

    "WHY FINAL FANTASY IS OVERRATED," "WHY ZELDA SUCKS." Just drop it, I don't want to hear about it.
    Then leave, simple as that. If someone bashed One Piece, I would just leave. I wouldn't write an essay about how they're dumb and I'm smart, I'd respect they're opinion.

    The fact is, other people liked the game, and all you're going to do by making something like this is annoy them.
    I'm stating my opinion, if it annoys them, then too bad.

    I think there's already a thread for bashing games, so if you want to post your hate,
    I don't hate the game, I'm just wondering why it's so loved?

    go do it there, don't start your own thread about it
    Freedom. Of. Speach. Deal with it.

    (not that I think it's any better there than it is here, but at least it's not as much of an eyesore for it to be all in one place).
    So, what, your happy with it?


    OPINIONS, RESPECT THEM!
    I
    can use
    annoying formating,
    Code:
    too!
    Thanks for making it almost impossible to reply to your oh-so-insightful post. I love crappy formatting, I'm totally serious here.

    Freedom of speech, I can say what I want
    Without getting arrested. On a forum, you have to abide by the forum rules. Feel free to flamebait yourself into a ban, you won't hear me complaining. I'd love to see you go into a library and start yelling "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" as loud as you can; you wouldn't be able to finish the sentence before your bum hits the curb.

    Also, the KKK and the Nazis can say what they want, as well. Should they be able to? Of course; free speech is very important. Does that mean that they should say it? Of course not. Just because you can say something doesn't mean you should. And I'll be damned if I have to respect your opinion, just like I'll be damned if I have to respect theirs.

    I'm not bashing it, technically, I was bashing apple.SHAMPOO, I'm just wondering why people like it so much because I don't see it.
    And flaming people is better how? I'll pretend you didn't say that; I highly doubt (and hope you didn't) mean it, as apple is a user I have a great deal of respect for. And if you're "just wondering why people like it so much," here's an idea: ask that instead of telling everyone that it's bad.

    I don't have to.
    To an extent, you're correct. As long as you keep it civil and on-topic, you can say whatever you feel is relevant. That doesn't mean you should. I certainly hope you learn the meaning of the word "tact" before you try to get a job, or you're going to have a long search.

    What? People who can't take other opinions about anything?
    If there was some hate group outside, I'd be protesting them. I don't need to respect their opinion, and I don't need to respect yours.

    Then why are you even here?
    I'd love to go "HURF DURF, FREE SPEECH," but I actually know that it's limited in this context. It's because you're bashing a game instead of discussing it.

    Then leave, simple as that. If someone bashed One Piece, I would just leave. I wouldn't write an essay about how they're dumb and I'm smart, I'd respect they're opinion.
    Sounds to me like you're not respecting my opinion. I better call the thought police on you, since all people should respect everything everyone says.

    I don't hate the game, I'm just wondering why it's so loved?
    If there's a thread about it, post there. If not, there's a thread about overrated games (which I already mentioned). Try posting there.

    Freedom. Of. Speach. Deal with it.
    Sorry, this forum isn't the US government. You have to follow their rules. And one of the rules is don't make a new thread if there's already a relevant thread about it.

    So, what, your happy with it?
    No, but at least the thread itself isn't hating anything specific. Like I said, it's not as bad if there's just one thread. I'd rather not see thirty threads about how "GAME" is bad, thanks.
     
    Okay, let me try this again, the gameplay just doesn't stack up to the hype. Once again, I was expecting a masterpiece but all I got was a below average game. The gameplay just wasn't that great. And although I did not play probably as far but wouldn't get repetitive that you have to constantly make the same gestures on the touch screen over and over? Sure, you can blame this on every other RPG but now my wrist is hurting. Not as much as when I played Guitar Hero, but it hurts nonetheless.
    Uhh... so, why didn't you switch pins and use a different attack? O_o

    To criticize the gameplay is one thing when it's valid. But do so based on a false claim is wrong. It'd be like if I played an entire game and then complained about the lack of a save feature. When in reality the save feature was present the entire time and I just never used it.
     
    @twocows
    I'm stating my opinion, deal with it. Also you're being off topic.

    @TRIFORCE89
    Like I said before, some pins own and some don't. So I'm going to be doing those gestures a lot.
     
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