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2nd Team

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    Wanted to try a team using more standard Pokemon. Still not the most standard looking team, but on paper it looks all right to me. I really don't like using Amoonguss, but I need some sort of wall that can fend off water attacks. And random Rain Dance was b/c I had no idea what to put there, and it helps with fire against Scizor. Any feedback appreciated.

    Scizor @ Scizorite
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef (or Speed?)
    Adamant Nature
    - Defog
    - Bullet Punch
    - Bug Bite
    - Swords Dance

    Crawdaunt @ Life Orb (will be replaced by Sheer Force Feraligatr if ever released)
    Ability: Adaptability
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    Adamant Nature
    - Aqua Jet
    - Crunch
    - Swords Dance
    - Superpower

    Talonflame @ Life Orb
    Ability: Gale Wings
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    Adamant Nature
    - Brave Bird
    - Flare Blitz
    - Bulk Up
    - Roost

    Amoonguss @ Leftovers
    Ability: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
    Calm Nature
    - Spore
    - Stun Spore
    - Giga Drain
    - Rain Dance

    Rhyperior @ Choice Band
    Ability: Solid Rock
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - Megahorn
    - Avalanche

    Gengar @ Black Sludge
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    Modest Nature
    - Substitute
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Shadow Ball
    - Will-O-Wisp
     
    Defog Scizor should look like this; it needs the recovery in Roost:
    -U-turn
    -Bullet Punch/Knock Off
    -Defog
    -Roost
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 248 HP/84 Atk/172 SDef
    Item: Leftovers/Scizorite
    Ability: Technician

    Water/Dark have good coverage together already, so Crawdaunt can get away with using only its STAB moves:
    -Swords Dance
    -Crab Hammer
    -Knock Off
    -Aqua Jet
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Mystic Water/Splash Plate
    Ability: Adaptability

    Swords Dance gives Talonflame a bigger boost in Attack; a Bulk Up set plays a lot differently than a Swords Dance set would:
    -Swords Dance
    -Flare Blitz
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 48 HP/252 Atk/208 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Sharp Beak/Sky Plate
    Ability: Gale Wings

    or
    -Bulk Up
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    -Taunt/Substitute
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 248 HP/176 SDef/84 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Gale Wings

    It should be noted that Rain Dance hampers Talonflame's Flare Blitz. I know that it helps against Scizor's Fire weakness, but an outright Fire resist like Wash Rotom is better:
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split/Rest
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Chesto Berry

    or
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split/Thunderbolt
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 228 HP/60 SAtk/220 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)/Thunderbolt
    -Trick
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf

    I don't think Rhyperior is a good choice in OU because of its common weaknesses. Sure, Solid Rock compensates, but Water and Grass commonly target Rhyperior's lower Special Defense stat. Tyranitar is still a better Choice Bander in this regard, even though it summons Sandstorm (though it's temporary):
    -Stone Edge
    -Crunch
    -Pursuit
    -Earthquake
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 180 HP/252 Atk/76 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Sand Stream

    Gengar must always use a Timid nature; otherwise it's outsped by stuff like Keldeo and Terrakion:
    -Shadow Ball
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Focus Blast
    -Thunderbolt/Destiny Bond
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    or
    -Substitute
    -Shadow Ball
    -Pain Split/Focus Blast
    -Disable/Will-o-Wisp/Focus Blast
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Black Sludge
     
    Defog Scizor should look like this; it needs the recovery in Roost:
    -U-turn
    -Bullet Punch/Knock Off
    -Defog
    -Roost
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 248 HP/84 Atk/172 SDef
    Item: Leftovers/Scizorite
    Ability: Technician

    Water/Dark have good coverage together already, so Crawdaunt can get away with using only its STAB moves:
    -Swords Dance
    -Crab Hammer
    -Knock Off
    -Aqua Jet
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Mystic Water/Splash Plate
    Ability: Adaptability

    Swords Dance gives Talonflame a bigger boost in Attack; a Bulk Up set plays a lot differently than a Swords Dance set would:
    -Swords Dance
    -Flare Blitz
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 48 HP/252 Atk/208 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Sharp Beak/Sky Plate
    Ability: Gale Wings

    or
    -Bulk Up
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    -Taunt/Substitute
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 248 HP/176 SDef/84 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Gale Wings

    It should be noted that Rain Dance hampers Talonflame's Flare Blitz. I know that it helps against Scizor's Fire weakness, but an outright Fire resist like Wash Rotom is better:
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split/Rest
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Chesto Berry

    or
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split/Thunderbolt
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 228 HP/60 SAtk/220 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)/Thunderbolt
    -Trick
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf

    I don't think Rhyperior is a good choice in OU because of its common weaknesses. Sure, Solid Rock compensates, but Water and Grass commonly target Rhyperior's lower Special Defense stat. Tyranitar is still a better Choice Bander in this regard, even though it summons Sandstorm (though it's temporary):
    -Stone Edge
    -Crunch
    -Pursuit
    -Earthquake
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 180 HP/252 Atk/76 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Sand Stream

    Gengar must always use a Timid nature; otherwise it's outsped by stuff like Keldeo and Terrakion:
    -Shadow Ball
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Focus Blast
    -Thunderbolt/Destiny Bond
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    or
    -Substitute
    -Shadow Ball
    -Pain Split/Focus Blast
    -Disable/Will-o-Wisp/Focus Blast
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Black Sludge
    Thanks for the feedback.

    Wasn't at all sure what the Scizor set should look like, so that helps.

    Would Crawdaunt prefer Waterfall over Crabhammer though?

    And something that I forgot was Assault Vest Rhyperior. Some people said they've had success with that, and with Solid Rock, I'd like to think it can tank some hits. Rotom is an ideal option for Amoonguss, but idk, subbing for Rotom and TTar makes this team look extremely standard. I know that's what wins games though, so I'll try to tinker with it and sub one or both of those guys in.
     
    Thanks for the feedback.

    Wasn't at all sure what the Scizor set should look like, so that helps.

    Would Crawdaunt prefer Waterfall over Crabhammer though?

    And something that I forgot was Assault Vest Rhyperior. Some people said they've had success with that, and with Solid Rock, I'd like to think it can tank some hits. Rotom is an ideal option for Amoonguss, but idk, subbing for Rotom and TTar makes this team look extremely standard. I know that's what wins games though, so I'll try to tinker with it and sub one or both of those guys in.

    Crab Hammer, despite its lower accuracy than Waterfall, is the preferred option over Waterfall. Crab Hammer's power was increased to 100 in X/Y, making it Crawdaunt's most powerful attack.

    Goodra and Metagross are better users of Assault Vest, iMO:

    Goodra:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast
    -Sludge Bomb/Thunderbolt
    -Focus Blast/Dragon Tail
    Nature: Modest/Quiet
    EVs: 248 HP/8 Def/252 SAtk
    Item: Assault Vest
    Ability: Gooey/Sap Sipper

    Metagross:
    -Meteor Mash
    -Earthquake
    -Zen Headbutt/Bullet Punch
    -Pursuit/Ice Punch/Thunder Punch
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
    Item: Assault Vest
    Ability: Clear Body
     
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