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A few things NOT to do when stating a site

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Mystic Flame

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    STAND-ALONE FORUMS
    If you are going to make a stand-alone forum <without a site> it WILL NOT get popular by using ...
    • Invision Power Board...
    1. InvisionFree
    2. InvisionBoard
    3. ClickDev
    • Proboards
    • Any other free hosting/free forums
    These sites are looked upon as EXTREMELY cliche. Your only REAL choice is 1. myBB or 2.vBulletin (witch pwns j00 all)
    ESPECIALY DO NOT SAY "Ill make you a mod if you join" you cant trust people at random with power >( ....except me lol j/k :p

    Free Hosting
    Freely hosted sites such as 'MSN groups' "Yahoo! Geocities' 'Freewebs'...etc. Are overused. They are often crappy layouts and scames. Ads are placed all over your site. if you REALLY want a site invest in a domain

    Pokemon Sites
    Enough we have EXACTLY as of February 1, 2005; we have currently 563,456,000 pokemon sites. They are NOT going to catch on anymore.



    will add more.........
     
    i never said it was free >>
     
    I cant agree with you more!
     
    For the Pokemon thing, it's not always true, for forums at least. I noticed that there were way too many Pokemon forums and they were all basically the same so I made an anime forum but it died. Thrice. Heh.
     
    I have seen MANY nice forums, with msny active members, but never a Invisionfree that was active for more than a week
     
    Invisionfree forums don't die that quickly but almost everyone has one and it gets boring. Used to be that way with Proboards but then everyone changed it.
     
    Mystic Flame said:
    STAND-ALONE FORUMS
    If you are going to make a stand-alone forum <without a site> it WILL NOT get popular by using ...
    • Invision Power Board...
    1. InvisionFree
    2. InvisionBoard
    3. ClickDev
    • Proboards
    • Any other free hosting/free forums
    These sites are looked upon as EXTREMELY cliche. Your only REAL choice is 1. myBB or 2.vBulletin (witch pwns j00 all)
    ESPECIALY DO NOT SAY "Ill make you a mod if you join" you cant trust people at random with power >( ....except me lol j/k :p
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    Actually, many of the biggest boards use software like phpBB or IPB. Don't slam them.

    Free Hosting
    Freely hosted sites such as 'MSN groups' "Yahoo! Geocities' 'Freewebs'...etc. Are overused. They are often crappy layouts and scames. Ads are placed all over your site. if you REALLY want a site invest in a domain
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    Not all of us can afford them. The only reason, for example, that I have a domain is that Greg gave me mine as a high school graduation present. Sites like Pokespecial and PokeSafari have theirs because Shawn gave them to them. The same goes for the hosting that all three of us have, it may be paid hosting but we have it for free from Shawn.

    Pokemon Sites
    Enough we have EXACTLY as of February 1, 2005; we have currently 563,456,000 pokemon sites. They are NOT going to catch on anymore.
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    That's what YOU think. If you stop people making sites, then it'll die out. Most of those 563 million-odd sites are:
    a) no longer updated
    b) different pages from the same site
    c) non-Pok?mon sites that just happen to mention the word
    Be careful when you exaggerate.


    I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. I have a feeling it's going to turn into a flame war.



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    Jedi_Amara said:
    That's what YOU think. If you stop people making sites, then it'll die out. Most of those 563 million-odd sites are:
    a) no longer updated
    b) different pages from the same site
    c) non-Pok?mon sites that just happen to mention the word
    Be careful when you exaggerate.
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    Maybe there's not 563 million but you do have to agree that there are a lot of Pokemon forums and sites that are basically the same except for who owns it. Yet the ununique forums like that are more popular than unique forums. Which is wierd.
     
    Mystic Flame said:
    STAND-ALONE FORUMS
    If you are going to make a stand-alone forum <without a site> it WILL NOT get popular by using ...
    • Invision Power Board...
    1. InvisionFree
    2. InvisionBoard
    3. ClickDev
    • Proboards
    • Any other free hosting/free forums
    These sites are looked upon as EXTREMELY cliche. Your only REAL choice is 1. myBB or 2.vBulletin (witch pwns j00 all)
    ESPECIALY DO NOT SAY "Ill make you a mod if you join" you cant trust people at random with power >( ....except me lol j/k :p

    Free Hosting
    Freely hosted sites such as 'MSN groups' "Yahoo! Geocities' 'Freewebs'...etc. Are overused. They are often crappy layouts and scames. Ads are placed all over your site. if you REALLY want a site invest in a domain

    Pokemon Sites
    Enough we have EXACTLY as of February 1, 2005; we have currently 563,456,000 pokemon sites. They are NOT going to catch on anymore.



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    agreed. I admin a vBulletin forum, we got like 20 members in one day.
     
    But remember how expensive vBulletin is, and considering that most Pok?mon fans are just kids most of us can't afford it. I mean, I have to pay my own fee for summer camp this year and that's not going to leave much room for stuff like vB, since I don't have a job, don't get much pocket money and am going to uni this year.
     
    Jedi_Amara said:
    But remember how expensive vBulletin is, and considering that most Pok?mon fans are just kids most of us can't afford it. I mean, I have to pay my own fee for summer camp this year and that's not going to leave much room for stuff like vB, since I don't have a job, don't get much pocket money and am going to uni this year.
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    Agreed. And it's not just the kids. I'm 20 but I have more important things to pay for than a forum even though I'd like to have one.
     
    Pokemon Sites
    Enough we have EXACTLY as of February 1, 2005; we have currently 563,456,000 pokemon sites. They are NOT going to catch on anymore.
    Click to expand...

    Question! Of those nearly 6 million pokemon sites a total of about 50 are updated regularly and have descent layouts and are famous-
     
    Mystic Flame said:
    STAND-ALONE FORUMS
    If you are going to make a stand-alone forum <without a site> it WILL NOT get popular by using ...
    • Invision Power Board...
    1. InvisionFree
    2. InvisionBoard
    3. ClickDev
    • Proboards
    • Any other free hosting/free forums
    These sites are looked upon as EXTREMELY cliche. Your only REAL choice is 1. myBB or 2.vBulletin (witch pwns j00 all)
    ESPECIALY DO NOT SAY "Ill make you a mod if you join" you cant trust people at random with power >( ....except me lol j/k :p

    Free Hosting
    Freely hosted sites such as 'MSN groups' "Yahoo! Geocities' 'Freewebs'...etc. Are overused. They are often crappy layouts and scames. Ads are placed all over your site. if you REALLY want a site invest in a domain

    Pokemon Sites
    Enough we have EXACTLY as of February 1, 2005; we have currently 563,456,000 pokemon sites. They are NOT going to catch on anymore.



    will add more.........
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    I guess Smogon and the Netbattle forums aren't that popular, then. They run on phpBB and are about Pocket Monsters.
    // end ironic comment

    It's not like phpBB is so easily customisable that it could be changed to look like vB, or anything else you want, for that matter.
     
    Mystic Flame said:
    STAND-ALONE FORUMS
    If you are going to make a stand-alone forum <without a site> it WILL NOT get popular by using ...
    • InvisionFree
    • Proboards
    Click to expand...
    Not really true. Although I deleted my forum when I first made it at Proboards and it had 87 members then someone deleted and I don't know why. o__o Then I remade it at Invisionfree where it got 130 in less than a month and a half. And I had no site. So they are more popular than you think.
     
    Let me revise those tips of yours...

    Stand-Alone Forums
    Don't make them, period. I personally don't know anybody who would base the decision to join or not to join a forum on the forum system it uses, unless it was indirectly (such as if I thought "Well, if this guy bought vBulletin, he's got to be serious", but that would only tell me that said forum would be less likely to be deleted than a free one), but to have a decently active forum, one of its major members needs to be somewhat famous in at least a part of the Pok?mon community, preferrably you. If you're a nobody and all your members are nobodies, nobody is going to hear about it, nobody is going to join, and nobody is going to keep it alive.

    Free Hosting
    Learn HTML, and find a host where you 100% hand-code your layout. Make sure that if it has advertisements, they're just like Google ads or something, not flashy banners or popups since they annoy your visitors. If your site works out and becomes somewhat popular, you can move to a paid host - after all, why pay for a site that gets no visitors?

    Pokemon Sites
    There are 563,456,000 pages that mention Pok?mon on the net as of 1st February 2005. Out of them, we can estimate probably around 100,000,000 that are actually Pok?mon sites. Cut down the ones that are just pages of the same site, and we might have like 5,000,000. At least 4,990,000 of them are no longer updated, so we'll take them away. Out of the 10,000 left, maybe 100 of them are decent-sized, and about five of them are the "big ones" that 85 of the others have simply ripped off. The remaining 10 are nice, devoted Pok?mon sites with original content. Make one of them, since the only sites worth looking at out of those 563,456,000 are those 10 and then a "big one" of your preference if you want to catch up with news, and your site is not going to be one of the "big ones".
     
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