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A (messy) Rain Dance team

Pokedragonfire

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  • After a loss (I think it was 4-0) to toothache on NetBattle, I decided to acctually try to make a team. :P Okay its not much better than my old one. Okay its a mess. Please, someone clean it -_-

    Ludicolo @ Leftovers
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Leech Seed
    - Rain Dance
    - Surf
    - Toxic

    Lanturn @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Confuse Ray
    - Rain Dance
    - Surf
    - Thunder

    Walrein @ Chesto Berry
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Hail
    - Rest
    - Surf
    - Toxic

    Lapras @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Rain Dance
    - Roar
    - Surf
    - Thunder

    Kabutops @ White Herb
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Brick Break
    - Hidden Power [Rock]
    - Return
    - Swords Dance

    Registeel @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Amnesia
    - Iron Defense
    - Sandstorm
    - Toxic

    I know it really isn't too great, and it gets pwned by earthquake. I might add a Gyarados instead of Walrein. I'll probably still get beaten by earthquake. Also lost to a taunting, dragondancing, earthquaking, Gyarados since my Thunder missed it and my Rain Dance stopped. Maybe I need more speed too. :P

    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Surf
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
     

    HoundoomTrainer

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    Ludicolo @ Leftovers
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Leech Seed
    - Rain Dance
    - Surf
    - Toxic

    Stop using 129 spreads. You need to personallize those EVs more. Also, needs 198 Spd to outspeed Aero.

    Lanturn @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Confuse Ray
    - Rain Dance
    - Surf
    - Thunder

    Thunderdancer. :S

    Walrein @ Chesto Berry
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Hail
    - Rest
    - Surf
    - Toxic

    Curserein would work like a Cursepert with Ice Beam. I'd try that. Hail sucks. EVs need work.

    Lapras @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Rain Dance
    - Roar
    - Surf
    - Thunder

    EVs need work.

    Kabutops @ White Herb
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Brick Break
    - Hidden Power [Rock]
    - Return
    - Swords Dance

    White Herb for what? @.@ Here's mine:

    Kabutops (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 Atk / 18 Spd / 240 SAtk
    Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
    - Flail
    - Hidden Power [Rock]
    - Rain Dance
    - Surf

    Outspeeds Aero.

    Registeel @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Amnesia
    - Iron Defense
    - Sandstorm
    - Toxic

    I know it really isn't too great, and it gets pwned by earthquake. I might add a Gyarados instead of Walrein. I'll probably still get beaten by earthquake. Also lost to a taunting, dragondancing, earthquaking, Gyarados since my Thunder missed it and my Rain Dance stopped. Maybe I need more speed too. :P

    Lol what the hell is this doing here? @.@

    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Surf
    - Hidden Power [Flying]

    Ew... Doesn't need 252 Spd and Taunt over Surf please. 264 Speed with one DD outspeeds Jolt.

    -HT
     
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    Phlemingo

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  • Ludicolo - A bit more defensively inclined. And dive over surf, good stall move.

    Lanturn - Give it a timid nature. + speed - attack

    Walrein and registeel = No

    Consider putting in a Kingdra, with the standards. For Kabutops, might I suggest the endure + salac + flail? I suppose that works ok too.
    Gyarados - Good. Except, Taunt over surf. You need something to kill special sponges.

    For registeel, perhaps slot in a Omastar. It has swift swim, and it has a high sp attack too. I suppose you want lanturn so you can switch into a volt absorber.
    And what's up with Lapras? Maybe you should have a Jolteon in there. Sub, Thunder, Rain Dance, Wish. @ Petaya
    Or perhaps include a quagsire with damp. Switch out against electrode or whatever. It can be mixed sweepage. Anyway, leave you to think about it. Hope I helped.
     

    HoundoomTrainer

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    Phlemingo said:
    Ludicolo - A bit more defensively inclined. And dive over surf, good stall move.

    Dive is a horrible move to use on NetBattle.

    Lanturn - Give it a timid nature. + speed - attack

    Modest you mean, because Timid is awful on Lanturn.

    Walrein and registeel = No

    Consider putting in a Kingdra, with the standards. For Kabutops, might I suggest the endure + salac + flail? I suppose that works ok too.
    Gyarados - Good. Except, Taunt over surf. You need something to kill special sponges.

    Kingdra can't sweep for crap on NB.

    For registeel, perhaps slot in a Omastar. It has swift swim, and it has a high sp attack too. I suppose you want lanturn so you can switch into a volt absorber.
    And what's up with Lapras? Maybe you should have a Jolteon in there. Sub, Thunder, Rain Dance, Wish. @ Petaya
    Or perhaps include a quagsire with damp. Switch out against electrode or whatever. It can be mixed sweepage. Anyway, leave you to think about it. Hope I helped.

    -HT
     

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  • I honestly wouldn't make them all Rain Dancers, becase you lack some of the staple moves on some of your Pokemon like Lapras and Lanturn are ment to be Boltbeamers.

    Lapras@Leftys
    Nature:+Sp. attack,-def
    EVs:252 Sp. attack, 252 HP, 6 Speed
    Confuse Ray/Rain Dance/Rest
    T-Bolt
    Ice Beam
    Surf

    Ludicolo@Leftys
    Nature:Modest Trait:Swift Swim
    EVs:252 Sp. def, 252 HP, 6 Sp. attack
    Giga Drain
    Rain Dance
    Leech Seed
    Ice Beam/Toxic

    I perfer Ice Beam.

    Lanturn@Leftys/Lum Berry/Salac Berry
    Nature:+Speed, -Attack
    EVs:252 Sp. Attack, 252 HP, 6 Speed
    Rain Dance/Confuse Ray
    Ice Beam
    T-bolt
    Surf

    This should help!
     

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    Pokedragonfire said:
    After a loss (I think it was 4-0) to toothache on NetBattle, I decided to acctually try to make a team. :P Okay its not much better than my old one. Okay its a mess. Please, someone clean it -_-

    Ludicolo @ Leftovers
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Leech Seed
    - Rain Dance
    - Surf
    - Toxic

    calm nature... my evs are EVs: 208 HP / 96 Def / 58 SAtk / 148 SDef... you can pump some sp evs in from def if you want

    Lanturn @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Confuse Ray
    - Rain Dance
    - Surf
    - Thunder

    c ray > rain dance, thunder bold > thunder... t wave > c ray @ leftovers... 252 hp atleast, most of the evs left should be in sp def then rest in sp attack

    Walrein @ Chesto Berry
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Hail
    - Rest
    - Surf
    - Toxic

    surf, ice beam, yawn, sub @ leftovers... yawn then sub when they switch... annoying as hell and 101+ subs =)

    Lapras @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Rain Dance
    - Roar
    - Surf
    - Thunder

    surf, ice beam, t bolt, c ray is my set @ leftovers, some sp attack plz

    Kabutops @ White Herb
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Brick Break
    - Hidden Power [Rock]
    - Return
    - Swords Dance

    meh, dont have white herb though...

    Registeel @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Amnesia
    - Iron Defense
    - Sandstorm
    - Toxic

    I know it really isn't too great, and it gets pwned by earthquake. I might add a Gyarados instead of Walrein. I'll probably still get beaten by earthquake. Also lost to a taunting, dragondancing, earthquaking, Gyarados since my Thunder missed it and my Rain Dance stopped. Maybe I need more speed too. :P

    rest > sand storm, thunder wave > toxic... stalls like hell

    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Surf
    - Hidden Power [Flying]

    taunt > surf... you dont need that many speed evs as max speed wont outspeed jolty w/ 1 dd... pump some out of speed and put them in hp
     

    Phlemingo

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  • HoundoomTrainer said:
    Originally Posted by Phlemingo
    Ludicolo - A bit more defensively inclined. And dive over surf, good stall move.

    -Dive is a horrible move to use on NetBattle.
    Considering he has rain dance (rain dish) and toxic, not to mention leftovers, and if you predict that the opponent won't switch out, wanting to kill you, it's good.

    Lanturn - Give it a timid nature. + speed - attack

    -Modest you mean, because Timid is awful on Lanturn.
    Perhaps. Not sure what Lanturn's base speed is.

    Walrein and registeel = No

    Consider putting in a Kingdra, with the standards. For Kabutops, might I suggest the endure + salac + flail? I suppose that works ok too.
    Gyarados - Good. Except, Taunt over surf. You need something to kill special sponges.

    -Kingdra can't sweep for crap on NB.
    If you set up, yes. Even so if you use Hydro Pump instead. A bit haxed, yes, but I've seen it.


    For registeel, perhaps slot in a Omastar. It has swift swim, and it has a high sp attack too. I suppose you want lanturn so you can switch into a volt absorber.
    And what's up with Lapras? Maybe you should have a Jolteon in there. Sub, Thunder, Rain Dance, Wish. @ Petaya
    Or perhaps include a quagsire with damp. Switch out against electrode or whatever. It can be mixed sweepage. Anyway, leave you to think about it. Hope I helped.
     

    Ice demon

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  • As much as i like ur username i'm going to have to seriously disagree with u in the case of dive
    all dive does is give the opponent the chance to
    a. switch to a water absorber
    b. boost stats with CM,SD,BD,Agility,and off course Dragon Dance
    c. baton pass, sub etc

    Very crappy.

    Lanturn[modest]@Leftovers
    EVs - hp,SpAtt,SpDef
    ice beam
    thunderbolt
    rest
    toxic/surf
     

    Poke-Master

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  • your clean raindance team

    Ludicolo @ Leftovers
    Max out ur EVS 4 HP and defense 1st.
    Ability: Swift Swim
    Surf
    Rain Dance
    Toxic
    Brick Break

    Lanturn @ Leftovers
    Max out the evs 4 speed and sp atk
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    Surf
    Rain Dance
    Thunder
    Confuse Ray

    Walrein @ SHell Bell
    Max out the evs in defense and sp def
    Ability: Thick Fat
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Earthquake
    Sheer Cold

    Lapras @ Leftovers
    Max out the EVS in HP and Special Defense
    Ability: Water absorb
    surf
    rain dance
    thunder
    body slam

    kabutops @ kings rock
    EVS max out with atk and spd
    surf
    rain dance
    brick break
    return

    Gyarados @Leftovers
    EVS Max out ATk and SPd
    Surf
    Rain Dance
    Thunder
    Earthquake
     

    Toothache

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  • Once again, proving you have no clue what you're talking about Poke-Master...

    Anyway:

    Ludicolo@Lum Berry
    EV: 252 Speed, 252 Sp Att, 6 Sp Def
    Nature: + Sp Att, - Att
    Rain Dance
    Hydro Pump/Surf
    Giga Drain
    Ice Beam

    You want a sweeper, not a staller. Meet the Omastar wannabe. Ludicolo's defences and type give it enough protection and it's Special Attack is not too bad at all.

    Lanturn - consider Rest over Confuse Ray if you want a bit of stalling/status defence. Otherwise, Thunderdancing works well.

    Walrein - Let's give it a Swampert set...

    Walrein@Leftovers/Chesto Berry
    EV: 252 HP, 129 Att, 129 Sp Def
    Nature: + Att, - Sp Att
    Curse
    Rest
    Earthquake
    Ice Beam/Rock Slide

    STAB Ice Beam can still OHKO dragons with Adamant nature.

    Lapras - maybe a bit too much Thunderdancing? Don't need Rain Dance on everyone.

    Lapras@Leftovers
    EV: 252 HP, 129 Sp Att, 129 Sp Def
    Nature: + Sp Att, - Att
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt/Thunder
    Rest/Roar

    Kabutops@Salac Berry
    EV: 252 Att, 252 Speed, 6 Def
    Nature: + Speed, - Sp Att
    Endure
    Flail
    HP Rock/Rock Slide
    Brick Break

    Gyarados - already been covered. Taunt is your friend
     

    Ice demon

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  • I myself like
    Kabutops[adamant]@salac berry
    EVs - Sp,Def,Att
    sword dance
    flail
    rockslide
    endure/substitute

    but hey brick break works fine........

    blah i think rest is a must have on the tank that is lapras........

    toxic/yawn are also good moves on walrein..............u know
     
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  • kingdra isnt that bad, alot of ppl use it and its pretty good, it jsut has to have raindance inorder for it to sweep well, plus it only has 1 weakness: dragon
    @leftovers; *swiftswim is very helpful here*
    raindance/rest
    surf
    ice beam
    toxic
     

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  • Pokedragonfire said:
    After a loss (I think it was 4-0) to toothache on NetBattle, I decided to acctually try to make a team. :P Okay its not much better than my old one. Okay its a mess. Please, someone clean it -_-
    I'm a strategist not a magician so dont expect anything magical to happen except common sense.

    Ludicolo @ Leftovers
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Leech Seed
    - Rain Dance
    - Surf
    - Toxic
    this set is outdated and should not start. =x I'd go with a huntail or gorebyss starter with rain and sweep. Anyways. If you want to stay with Ludicollo, ditch him as starter. =[ And use this set. Ludicollo @ Lum Rain Dance, Ice Beam, Surf, Giga Drain or something. btw. Gorebyss set:

    Gorebyss @ Leftovers Rain Dance, Surf, Ice Beam, HP Grass. Modest/Timid


    Lanturn @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Confuse Ray
    - Rain Dance
    - Surf
    - Thunder
    decent I suppose. someone brings out someone with thunder to sweep up. switch in to lanturn and heal up. I suppose it could of tanked had you not given it the wrong job, but whatever. it could still work this way.

    Walrein @ Chesto Berry
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Hail
    - Rest
    - Surf
    - Toxic
    hm.. fire and ice. isnt it resistant to both of those? thick fat is pointless. give it anything else but that =[ Hail = Crap and it kills rain. whats the point of that. I suppose if you really want this set to work just put Rain Dance over Hail.

    Lapras @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Rain Dance
    - Roar
    - Surf
    - Thunder
    Ice Beam over Rain Dance.

    Kabutops @ White Herb
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Brick Break
    - Hidden Power [Rock]
    - Return
    - Swords Dance
    it could work. maybe if you ditched swords dance for something it could cb?

    Registeel @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 Def / 129 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Amnesia
    - Iron Defense
    - Sandstorm
    - Toxic
    since this is a raindance team I'm not rating this as it has nothing to do with raining, or dancing for that matter.



    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Surf
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    Taunt over Surf.

    And for gods sake put dos over walrein.
     

    HoundoomTrainer

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    Xilion_Sword90 said:
    I just wnat to point out that with Rain Dance Tops' Speed doubles. So why Salac then? Wouldn't Liechi or Lum be better?

    Kabutops (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 Atk / 18 Spd / 240 SAtk
    Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
    - Flail
    - Hidden Power [Rock]
    - Rain Dance
    - Surf

    8)

    -HT
     

    Spike Razzor

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  • kirby00 said:
    kingdra isnt that bad, alot of ppl use it and its pretty good, it jsut has to have raindance inorder for it to sweep well, plus it only has 1 weakness: dragon
    @leftovers; *swiftswim is very helpful here*
    raindance/rest
    surf
    ice beam
    toxic
    Wow... Kirby actually made sense. Anways, Kingdra isn't really much of a big sweeper, but its a classic Swift Swimmer and is on most Rain Dance teams. Hydro Pump Kingdra took out one of my teams... It was a sad, sad day...

    Also, Kabutops Sp.Atk SUCKS! I dunno why HoundoomTrainer said Kingdra is a crappy sweeper and then suggested Surf on Kabutops... Go for a physical attack instead, and Indure into Flail is a nice combo too, killed lots of Pokemon that way.
     

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  • 228 SpAt * 1.5 (SATB) * 1.5 (Rain Dance) = 513 SpAt when using Surf

    Not too shabby. Pretty good for something that physical sweeps.
     

    HoundoomTrainer

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    Spike Razzor said:
    Wow... Kirby actually made sense. Anways, Kingdra isn't really much of a big sweeper, but its a classic Swift Swimmer and is on most Rain Dance teams. Hydro Pump Kingdra took out one of my teams... It was a sad, sad day...

    Also, Kabutops Sp.Atk SUCKS! I dunno why HoundoomTrainer said Kingdra is a crappy sweeper and then suggested Surf on Kabutops... Go for a physical attack instead, and Indure into Flail is a nice combo too, killed lots of Pokemon that way.

    See HellishHades' post.

    Also, ever try Kingdra on NetBattle? It gets laughed at, including by my team. :)

    -HT
     
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