A New Team :D

[Dr Nope.avi]

I just got into the game competitively and was trying to assemble a team. I literally bought my 3ds 3 days ago from a little reimbursement from my company. I was curious to see how other people view my team as of right now. I know there is a bit of a Fairy and Psychic weakness in my team, two major types in competitive play. If you feel like a different Pokemon would be better for this team, give me any opinions.

Though I do like having Froslass, Arcanine, and Eelektross on my team, they are my favorite Pokemon and have swept for me a few times testing it in Pokemon Showdown.

Here is what I have at the moment:

Froslass @ Leftovers
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 Spd / 248 HP / 8 SAtk
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Spikes
- Destiny Bond
- Substitute

Arcanine @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Extreme Speed
- Wild Charge
- Close Combat

Eelektross @ Expert Belt
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Flamethrower
- Giga Drain
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Roserade @ Choice Specs
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Calm Nature
- Air Slash
- Wish
- Thunder Wave
- Nasty Plot

Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 248 HP / 16 Atk / 244 SDef
Careful Nature
- Dragon Tail
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch

Thanks for the help and have a great day all of you.

 

[zygardian harbinger]

Your team is unique in the way that it doesn't have a Mega Evolution, where it is so commonly used in this generation. I like that :)

-Anyway, Froslass looks fine, but it might not be able to stick around long as a lead, due to its very average stats. The Speed would help in setting up Spikes, which is helpful. With Destiny Bond, you have to be good at anticipating a KO. Great lead.

-Looking at Arcanine, you might want to consider a better item. Having two moves with recoil and putting the Life Orb on top of that may be dangerous to run. You could try Leftovers instead, perhaps?

-Eelektross is great in having no weaknesses. However, its low base Speed is something to worry about. That being said, dealing damage must be a big priority. Wise Glasses may be a viable alternative to the Expert Belt because it boosts damage even when the moves aren't super effective. However, the Expert Belt is still a great choice because of the types of its moveset.

-Roserade is a little weak on the defensive side, leaving it vulnerable to one of the most commonly used Pokemon of the metagame, Talonflame. Choice Specs also leave it vulnerable since it only allows the use of the first move you selected. A viable alternative (and this is only a suggestion) could be Amoonguss, which is not commonly used.

Amoonguss @ Black Sludge (Regenerative Tank)
Nature: Bold or Calm
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Defense, 252 Sp. Def., 4 HP
-Giga Drain
-Sludge Bomb
-Spore
-Synthesis
This moveset makes Amoonguss a force to be reckoned with. With the hidden ability Regenerator, it heals a little HP when it is withdrawn from battle. The set makes sure that Amoonguss can withstand damage while putting the foe to sleep with a 100% accuracy Spore and hitting with Sludge Bomb to poison or Giga Drain to steal health. Synthesis is a backup for tough situations, and the Black Sludge item works just like leftovers, only if the opponent tries to steal it and their Pokemon isn't a Poison-type, they'll wind up taking damage instead.

-You have an interesting set with Togekiss making it a Special Wall, but I would disagree with Nasty Plot if you're only going to run one Special Attack on it. Instead, why don't you try putting the Fairy-type move Moonblast over Thunder Wave? That would diversify your type advantages.

-Lastly, Rhyperior has a lot of type disadvantages, which is disheartening, even with the Solid Rock Ability. If you choose to run Rhyperior regardless, I would suggest putting a Weakness Policy on it to give it a benefit when hit with huge moves like that, and when its HP runs low, you could take advantage of using Wish on Togekiss to switch it back in. But there is an alternative, if you would like to use a Mega Evolution on your team, and that would be Mega Aggron, who has a variant of Solid Rock called Filter, which does the exact same thing:

Mega Aggron @ Aggronite (Heavy Physical Wall)
Nature: Calm
Ability: Doesn't matter since you're Mega Evolving it.
EVs: 252 Defense/252 Attack/4 Sp. Def.
-Iron Head
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Fire Punch/Ice Punch
-Dragon Tail/Fire Punch/Ice Punch/
Mega Aggron has a huge 230 Base Defense, and a great 140 for Base Attack. It's a great physical player, but still a little bit on the weaker side to Specials. It has a nice movepool overall, but you want to stick to the physical side to effectively use Mega Aggron. Its pure Steel typing enables it to have a lot of resists, and with Filter, it even resists super effective moves. In other words, it's a better alternative to Rhyperior by far.

Well, that's my speculation on the team. Hope this helped in some sort of way :D

 

[srinator]

froslass is best as a suicide lead imo with spikes/taunt/destiny bond/ice beam.

good arcanine set.

why not make that elektross mixed? 115 and 105 base stats for atk and spA is not bad

Eelektross @ Expert Belt
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Mild Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Superpower
- Flamethrower
- Giga Drain

the set helps in confusing people, superpower make the person think you are a physical mon and brings in phy wall and then you can hit him hard with spA attacks .

if you are comfortable with the attacks you have i would suggest using choice specs.

you can also use a coiltross so you can set up on anticipated switches
Eelektross @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Coil
- Drain Punch
- Thunder Punch
- Aqua Tail

your roserade set needs a lot of tinkering. why do you have sleep powder and synthesis if you are equipped with specs?
A life orb set would be better imo

Roserade @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Sleep Powder


or you could use a defensive stall type set
Roserade @ Black Sludge
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Toxic Spikes
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Rest

good togekiss set but do see if you are comfortable with a more attacking togekiss with dazzling gleam in place of wish and invest ev's in speed and spA.

also a suggestion, wynaut use a mega ttar instead of rhyp. you will have a heck of a wall and can also hit hard.

 

[Dr Nope.avi]

Thanks for helping, I'll see what I can do. still trying to learn everything. And yes I love froslass, I have used her in the midgame sometimes to take out some bigger threats using destiny bond. And yes, I am trying to stay away from mega evolutions for now until I learn how they are used. I know they are commonplace, but knockoff can really hit em hard as far as I know of.

 

[Dr Nope.avi]

Your team is unique in the way that it doesn't have a Mega Evolution, where it is so commonly used in this generation. I like that :)

-Anyway, Froslass looks fine, but it might not be able to stick around long as a lead, due to its very average stats. The Speed would help in setting up Spikes, which is helpful. With Destiny Bond, you have to be good at anticipating a KO. Great lead.

-Looking at Arcanine, you might want to consider a better item. Having two moves with recoil and putting the Life Orb on top of that may be dangerous to run. You could try Leftovers instead, perhaps?

-Eelektross is great in having no weaknesses. However, its low base Speed is something to worry about. That being said, dealing damage must be a big priority. Wise Glasses may be a viable alternative to the Expert Belt because it boosts damage even when the moves aren't super effective. However, the Expert Belt is still a great choice because of the types of its moveset.

-Roserade is a little weak on the defensive side, leaving it vulnerable to one of the most commonly used Pokemon of the metagame, Talonflame. Choice Specs also leave it vulnerable since it only allows the use of the first move you selected. A viable alternative (and this is only a suggestion) could be Amoonguss, which is not commonly used.

Amoonguss @ Black Sludge (Regenerative Tank)
Nature: Bold or Calm
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Defense, 252 Sp. Def., 4 HP
-Giga Drain
-Sludge Bomb
-Spore
-Synthesis
This moveset makes Amoonguss a force to be reckoned with. With the hidden ability Regenerator, it heals a little HP when it is withdrawn from battle. The set makes sure that Amoonguss can withstand damage while putting the foe to sleep with a 100% accuracy Spore and hitting with Sludge Bomb to poison or Giga Drain to steal health. Synthesis is a backup for tough situations, and the Black Sludge item works just like leftovers, only if the opponent tries to steal it and their Pokemon isn't a Poison-type, they'll wind up taking damage instead.

-You have an interesting set with Togekiss making it a Special Wall, but I would disagree with Nasty Plot if you're only going to run one Special Attack on it. Instead, why don't you try putting the Fairy-type move Moonblast over Thunder Wave? That would diversify your type advantages.

-Lastly, Rhyperior has a lot of type disadvantages, which is disheartening, even with the Solid Rock Ability. If you choose to run Rhyperior regardless, I would suggest putting a Weakness Policy on it to give it a benefit when hit with huge moves like that, and when its HP runs low, you could take advantage of using Wish on Togekiss to switch it back in. But there is an alternative, if you would like to use a Mega Evolution on your team, and that would be Mega Aggron, who has a variant of Solid Rock called Filter, which does the exact same thing:

Mega Aggron @ Aggronite (Heavy Physical Wall)
Nature: Calm
Ability: Doesn't matter since you're Mega Evolving it.
EVs: 252 Defense/252 Attack/4 Sp. Def.
-Iron Head
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Fire Punch/Ice Punch
-Dragon Tail/Fire Punch/Ice Punch/
Mega Aggron has a huge 230 Base Defense, and a great 140 for Base Attack. It's a great physical player, but still a little bit on the weaker side to Specials. It has a nice movepool overall, but you want to stick to the physical side to effectively use Mega Aggron. Its pure Steel typing enables it to have a lot of resists, and with Filter, it even resists super effective moves. In other words, it's a better alternative to Rhyperior by far.

Well, that's my speculation on the team. Hope this helped in some sort of way :D

I think I may switch to Aggron because might as well follow the mega mainstream :P. I am gonna go with Careful instead of calm though, it would be better to not to lose attack.

 

[PlatinumDude]

I think I may switch to Aggron because might as well follow the mega mainstream :P. I am gonna go with Careful instead of calm though, it would be better to not to lose attack.

Here's a much cleaner version of the most commonly seen Mega Aggron set:
-Stealth Rock
-Heavy Slam/Iron Head
-Thunder Wave/Ice Punch
-Earthquake/Rock Slide
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/16 Def/240 SDef
Item: Aggronite
Ability: Sturdy

If you want some form of survivability, Mega Aggron can also opt for RestTalk:
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Heavy Slam/Iron Head
-Earthquake/Ice Punch
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/16 Def/240 SDef
Item: Aggronite
Ability: Sturdy

 

[zygardian harbinger]

I think I may switch to Aggron because might as well follow the mega mainstream :P. I am gonna go with Careful instead of calm though, it would be better to not to lose attack.

Oh whoops, did I put Calm? My mistake... :P

 

[Dr Nope.avi]

One last problem, the reason I had Rhyperior in the first place is as a check to fire and flying times such as Talonflame. Whould mega aggron do a job checking someone like that since he is a steel type.

 

[PlatinumDude]

One last problem, the reason I had Rhyperior in the first place is as a check to fire and flying times such as Talonflame. Whould mega aggron do a job checking someone like that since he is a steel type.

Pretty much, yes. Mega Aggron has Filter, which weakens super effective attacks it would take. It can even tank Talonflame's Flare Blitz:

252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 153-180 (44.4 - 52.3%) -- 13.3% chance to 2HKO (yes, it still 2HKOs, but that's still a pretty small chance)

Unboosted: 252+ Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 100-121 (29 - 35.1%) -- 12.8% chance to 3HKO

Talonflame will be forced to switch if it's Choice-locked into Brave Bird, of course.

 

[Dr Nope.avi]

Thanks man, now for the fun of egg breeding :/.

 

[srinator]

the reason why i told mega ttar is to check talonflame

252 Atk Choice Band Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Tyranitar: 75-89 (18.5 - 22%) -- possible 5HKO

252 Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Tyranitar: 75-89 (18.5 - 22%) -- possible 5HKO

 

[zygardian harbinger]

Pretty much, yes. Mega Aggron has Filter, which weakens super effective attacks it would take. It can even tank Talonflame's Flare Blitz:

252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 153-180 (44.4 - 52.3%) -- 13.3% chance to 2HKO (yes, it still 2HKOs, but that's still a pretty small chance)

Unboosted: 252+ Atk Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Filter Mega Aggron: 100-121 (29 - 35.1%) -- 12.8% chance to 3HKO

Talonflame will be forced to switch if it's Choice-locked into Brave Bird, of course.

Yeah, I've seen Flare Blitz used a lot. If you put Stone Edge on Aggron, it would be a big hit to Talonflame indeed, as well as another common Mega, Charizard. I used to use Mega Charizard Y, and it would get screwed over time and time again from a Rock Slide. -_-