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Zet, There's a distinct difference between "Manning up" and swallowing you pride when you are indeed wrong, where the rules of the community are concerned.

Amachi, Seriously, Grow up. No one needs your sarcasm. :/
If you can't take the topic seriously, then ignore it, and kindly refrain from posting in this thread. Staff or not, you too, are expected to behave.
 
My opinion, my direct opinion, is that reputation should not be based off of one's opinion. A forum is a place to come into discussion on a topic. Share your thoughts on an idea, comment, or opinion. The world is a free place to express someone's opinion, and to negatively rep someone because they don't agree isn't fair in my eyes. The reason why is because everyone is different, everyone has their own thoughts, and why should someone be negatively repped because they had a different opinion. In a thread, if someone has an opinion, instead of giving one bad reputation, why not continue the discussion of the thread and create a formal plain out of it. By this I mean, for example, one may like Aggron better than Tyrantitar, well then, instead of giving someone bad reputation for saying that post again following the discussion of the thread [without spamming] and back up your idea on why you may or may not agree.

I mean honestly, why should someone be based off of their opinion? That isn't fair for anyone, because then it is best for one to stay quiet and not say anything. That is how people are being treated here. I don't like your opinion, so here is some bad rep. Why? To me, reputation doesn't need to be based on opinion, because then no one will be able to speak freely in a discussion without the fear of someone disagreeing and bad repping them.

Now, what should someone be possibly neg repped for? Well, that depends, as stated if someone used bad grammar, then sure I wouldn't consider that abuse. It is actually a helpful cause as it may promote that one target to learn to focus on their grammar when posting. Also, when someone may be spamming a thread, then I wouldn't consider that abuse either. Again, it only helps promote those to not spam in a thread and actually provide the thread with an ongoing discussion. Another example that may not be called as abuse is possible because the person was possibly causing a feud within the thread. This is something that happens a lot and really shouldn't. So to stop the argument, neg repping them isn't terrible. As again, it'll promote one not to continue to start a feud but just ignore it.

Also, if reputation is such a problem for staff and members, then honestly why continue it with a warning when you can simply remove it? People complain everyday about their abuse, and yes it is annoying, but why hear this complaint and be bothered by it when you can easily dispose of it? In my opinion, if one matter can cause such a problem end it. With this, you'll first hear a person saying, "Aw, why remove it, that isn't fair." However, that uproar will eventually die out and people will forget about the whole thing. However, if you keep it you'll just always get continuous complaints.

For me, honestly, I say remove it. The reason why is because it'll be less of a hassle for staff and less of a deal for members. No one will be able to abuse anything and no one will always be able to come up with threads and the CQ&A always starting a known complaint. Also, as for Spey, some posts he has done were uncalled for, but others are his opinion or curiosity. Can you blame someone for being curious about something, especially if they are semi-new or were gone for a long period of time. Spey, I do agree has at times spammed threads or posted unrelated topics, however not everything he does needs to be de-repped.

As for derepping someone just because you hate them or dislike them is only immaturity for one. You don't like someone, then ignore them. Don't continue a problem when you aren't looking for a fight. It isn't the best thing to do for someone just because you don't like them. Also, picking on the noobs with bad reputation is only causing more of a trouble for the community. You'll only scare them away because they'll feel unwanted or you'll only cause them to create unecessary questions. So, you dislike someone, don't neg rep them for that, but simply ignore them and evade the problem and just move on with yourself.
 
Jesus this thread took a turn for the 'why so serious?'. o____o;
 
oh noes ;o; my favourite pokemon is weaker than a gen III pokemon ;o;


I wish people could man up when it comes to rep


You were de-repped because you did't VM/PM a person on the staff/anyone or check his blog. No it's not a warning for everyone to stop de-repping you, it's a warning to everyone for everyone.


Can't you like just man up or something?


And you wonder why you get neg-repped, we already have 9001 Administrators. Why make it 9001+


No one cares that you have been neg-repped, man up


I'm glad that you man'd up (b'-')b

Personally I don't why people cry over rep, it's no big deal

If anyone wants to neg rep me, go ahead. At least I won't go bawwwwww, I can man up and take it

I have to agree with you on some of the things you've said. I'd also like to add in that if people want complaining about reputation from people spey to stop, why not just stop the whole reputation thing? An opinion is worth nothing to yourself, and only counts to the person who stated the opinion. Unless it is an opinion to where you think is true, and that could help you improve, that's different. However, it does not seem to go the right way at some times.

Even if you could just report it to a higher staff, wouldn't it just be better to get rid of it and have no complaints? It'd also be less work for the staff.
 
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Zet, There's a distinct difference between "Manning up" and swallowing you pride when you are indeed wrong, where the rules of the community are concerned.

Amachi, Seriously, Grow up. No one needs your sarcasm. :/
If you can't take the topic seriously, then ignore it, and kindly refrain from posting in this thread. Staff or not, you too, are expected to behave.
Pachy, don't go off-topic. If you have something to say to individual members, either PM or VM them.
 
I think the main issue with negative rep is that people automatically think that if someone doesn't like or approve of their post, it means that person hates them and is bad-repping them out of spite. People need to grow up and realize not everyone is going to agree with them. And honestly, if a ton of people bad-rep you for one post, chances are more likely that you deserved it and thus you should read the post, figure out why everyone has such a low opinion of it, and try to correct that in future posts. That is the reason we have the reputation system.

I will be so, so disappointed with PC if we have to disable it again because I had faith that the member base had progressed and matured enough to handle the system and argued to bring it back in the first place. Please don't prove me wrong, guys.
 
At least I have the courage to post openly and express my discontent at an opinion, rather than hiding behind the reputation system.
They should really give you a Purple Heart or something for that.

I don't think Rep should be disabled, after all, each user has the right to choose weather to enable rep as it is, if you're going to have it enabled atleast prepare yourself for some bad reps. I've had some stupid ones in the past but so what? They're just little bars and numbers.
 
I think the main issue with negative rep is that people automatically think that if someone doesn't like or approve of their post, it means that person hates them and is bad-repping them out of spite. People need to grow up and realize not everyone is going to agree with them. And honestly, if a ton of people bad-rep you for one post, chances are more likely that you deserved it and thus you should read the post, figure out why everyone has such a low opinion of it, and try to correct that in future posts. That is the reason we have the reputation system.

I will be so, so disappointed with PC if we have to disable it again because I had faith that the member base had progressed and matured enough to handle the system and argued to bring it back in the first place. Please don't prove me wrong, guys.
The members that are arguing and complaining are the members that aren't as open minded as you Lightning!
They see it as a sign that they are hated.
In some cases, it is true, but a lot of the time, it isn't.

I think it is a lost cause trying to convince people to understand that it isn't personal most of the times.
 
I had faith that the member base had progressed and matured enough to handle the system and argued to bring it back in the first place. Please don't prove me wrong, guys.

Erm, a variation of my post before.
Don't expect that from PC.
 
They see it as a sign that they are hated.
In some cases, it is true, but a lot of the time, it isn't.
Complaining about it doesn't help with the whole hating thing either.
The more people make a fuss the more attention they draw to themselves.

I mean Spey was the whole reason this thread was made, right?
I might be wrong, but in any case he still drew enough attention to himself to make me think that and in turn make me like him less.

It's become the situation where people are -repped for complaining, at which they complain thus being -repped again etc etc.
Kind of funny really.
 
Can't you like just man up or something?
I have been manning up ever since the reputation system was reintroduced. It's just that most of the negative reps I've received were given for absolutely frivolous, unjustifiable reasons.

Just abolish the damn thing already and move on. It's pretty damn clear that the member base has NOT progressed and matured enough to handle the system. Looks like your faith in this community was misplaced, Erica.
 
I'd like to point out that, from what I can tell, that rep is by no means, by no means a right to members on PC which means that it is a privilege given to us as members to use. If you abuse it or screw up, your privilege will be revoked. It's absolutely no different than anything in the real world. You are not owed the right to give out reputation points nor are you owed to receive them just like you are not owed that car on your sixteenth birthday or the right to stay out past a certain time. The staff in this instance gave the site a second chance at the reputation privilege and if we, as a site, blow this chance, we deserve every little bit of it and we have absolutely no one to blame but ourselves.
 
I dislike agreeing with Jack on this one, since I am the type who enjoys having faith in others, but he's right. PC just doesn't seem ready for it yet. It's still quite immature around here. Half the reason I lurk is because so many people here are hateful for petty reasons, even among the staff. You should know that as well as anyone how 'popular' I am among staff members, and all because I have courage enough to stand up and say what's on my mind.
 
Complaining about it doesn't help with the whole hating thing either.
The more people make a fuss the more attention they draw to themselves.

I mean Spey was the whole reason this thread was made, right?
I might be wrong, but in any case he still drew enough attention to himself to make me think that and in turn make me like him less.

It's become the situation where people are -repped for complaining, at which they complain thus being -repped again etc etc.
Kind of funny really.
It is rather amusing.
So you say we ban Spey once again? For good this time.

See what happens when he is allowed back?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!

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This is for the nice little members who have gotten worked up over this post and think it is their right to -rep me and PM me shouting at me.

"IT'S A JOKE! TELL YOUR FACE!"
 
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Thanks for posting this.

Even though the people that abuse the rep will read it. >>
I hope it does get disabled for good, one day.
 
If you can't take the topic seriously, then ignore it, and kindly refrain from posting in this thread. Staff or not, you too, are expected to behave.

.....Taking the topic seriously...? Everyone in this topic is complaining about small green bars that do not mean anything whatsoever. Honestly, how is this supposed to be taken seriously!?

Really, those users who are taking this as though they are being personally attacked need to step back, calm down, and think about this. All that reputation means on this forum is what some random members think of your opinions. ...Actually, even that is being generous, as what it will really come down to is a handful of ignorant users spamming negative reputation because they cannot handle differing opinions. It does not mean that everyone in the world hates you. It does not even necessarily mean that a majority of users on this forum hate you. All it is, is some green bars sitting on your profile. Nothing more. It has no actual bearing on your lives, unless you allow it to. Who cares about some color on a profile on a Pokemon forum, honestly? It has nothing to do with making a living, it does nothing for getting a job or mortgage, and does nothing for holding together a family.

...Oh, and for the record: No, I would not be angry if one person with 1000 rep power decided to spam negative reputation at me simply for not agreeing with my thoughts. I do not care that much about some small images that mean nothing.
 
It is rather amusing.
So you say we ban Spey once again? For good this time.

See what happens when he is allowed back?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!

well, for good I dunno. I mean, it's not up to me. I think that it's not only Spey however, and that is shown by some of the people agreeing with this.
 
PC just doesn't seem ready for it yet. It's still quite immature around here.
You know the reason for that right?
It is a Pokemon forum. I am not saying everyone is immature, but 60%-70% of people are.

See what has happened to the forum now that this topic has arose?
Members are starting to get into arguments, getting angry over nothing.
Don't tell me it is more than a few green bars, because it isn't. If you honestly get offended by a negative reputation point, then disable it and stop complaining.

I, for one, am going to disable mine now.
It is actually laughable that people get so worked up over it.
 
Things are taking a turn for the worse.... it's like a big schism. it showcases how people care about their rep too much... I disagree with disabling it, just because it will show what happens when people get privileges on this forum.. but I don't think that so many people should COMPLAIN ABOUT REPUTATION! as zet said "man up"
 
That poster was a spammer....And a troll. And one day, he goes off crazier than usual. The members get the neg rep to defend themselves. He's doesn't like that. Not. One. Bit. So, staff watching, he makes a thread about them, laughing while he does it. The members turn to him and they say, "Why so serious?" They go at him with the rep. "WHY SO SERIOUS?" They stick the rep in a comment. "LET'S PUT SOME NEG REP ON THAT POST." And..... Why so serious?

Seriously though, rep is no big deal. I don't see while people are freaking :|
 
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