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Shining Raichu

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    yes, you are. Which part of "It's starting to seem to me that the people who choose not to drink are being laughed down off our supposed 'high horses'" and "1 - As you touched on, I've found that people who start to drink (coming from my experience working in a liquor store) do begin to feel that they need it to have fun. I just think that is the saddest state ever for the world to be in: where people feel like they need to have their minds chemically altered to have a good time." doesn't involve judging people???

    I just those who become dependent on alcohol, not those who drink.

    You can't not be interested in something as accessible as alcohol and refuse to try it but decide you'll never drink it because it doesn't look like a good idea to you. You cannot do that. That's just mind boggling from an objective debater's form of mind.

    Well, apparently I can. Your mind can boggle away.

    Seriously, you're justifying your responses to this thread with posts amongst the same logic as 'I work in a rehabilitation centre so I must know everything about drugs.'

    I never listed my work as a reason not to drink or to say I know anything about drinking, but in my experience the fact that we have new customers become regular customers must mean there's some dependence starting there.

    But hey, my post ain't gonna change your mind. The only thing that may do that is if you conquer those INNER DEMONS and get a couple of drinks for yourself.

    Ugh.


    Look, all I was saying is I don't like being spoken down to. I didn't mean for it to turn into something this big.
     
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    I never listed my work as a reason not to drink or to say I know anything about drinking, but in my experience the fact that we have new customers become regular customers must mean there's some dependence starting there.

    Well, have you ever thought that people enjoy having a nice drink after a long day or just enjoying a pint of beer every now and then, instead of it being a 'dependance'?
    I buy beer and go to the pub after a hard day at University sometimes. I certainly don't become dependant on it, but it is a nice and relaxing environment.

    By your logic then, if I go to a new shop and buy something like a bottle of Coke. I then keep coming back every so often to buy that same bottle of Coke, does this mean I am developing dependence towards it?​
     

    Sydian

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    Shining Raichu said:
    I never listed my work as a reason not to drink or to say I know anything about drinking, but in my experience the fact that we have new customers become regular customers must mean there's some dependence starting there.

    Wait. Hold the phone. So. I go to Taco Bell a lot. So am I dependent on Taco Bell? Am I addicted? Sometimes I go for me. Majority of the time, I go for my uncle, because he can't drive so I have to get him things for him. And other times I go through because my mom gave me money to get my sister something to eat because my mom and step dad might be busy and can't pick her up from colorguard practice or whatever.

    What I'm getting at is that just cause you see the same person buying that product a bit, it's not really your business to be judging what it's for, or heck, even who it's for. They could be getting it for themselves, for a party, stocking for the week, getting it for a friend that can't drive or whatever, but it's really not your place to think "oh they come here all the time, they're dependent on alcohol."
     

    Shining Raichu

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    Guys, guys. Calm...

    I'm not passing judgment on your alcohol (or Taco Bell?) habits. Really, this turned into a MUCH bigger deal than I intended. I just got annoyed when Fabio and Toujours and that other person whose name I can't remember seemed to be laughing at me for a choice I made, as though it was so ridiculous. I'm not interested in a semantics battle, I just got annoyed and posted, possibly without thinking it through. That's all. I'm really not the judgmental jackass this thread is making me out to be.

    Friends?
     
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    I dont drink and plan not to drink at all.
    Reasons? I've got a few.
    I'm surrounded by people who get it into there head that they need some sort of substance to help them have a good time, I know a 16 year old girl who begins drinking at 11AmM and doesn't stop till she passes out at around 1AM. I've know people who have gone to parties and wound up getting escorted out because they were passed on the floor, sounds like fun no?
    And I've counted 3 people who have died from alchohol releated illnesses who have lived on my street. And every oneused to go out amd get drunk for the fun of it. Sounds like a lot of fun having your car wrapped around a concrete pole because you were hammered.

    Since the first one passed away I've swore I would never let myself get anywhere near being like that.
     
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    I dont drink and plan not to drink at all.
    Reasons? I've got a few.
    I'm surrounded by people who get it into there head that they need some sort of substance to help them have a good time, I know a 16 year old girl who begins drinking at 11AmM and doesn't stop till she passes out at around 1AM. I've know people who have gone to parties and wound up getting escorted out because they were passed on the floor, sounds like fun no?
    And I've counted 3 people who have died from alchohol releated illnesses who have lived on my street. And every oneused to go out amd get drunk for the fun of it. Sounds like a lot of fun having your car wrapped around a concrete pole because you were hammered.

    Since the first one passed away I've swore I would never let myself get anywhere near being like that.

    I came from Manchester and I have also seen those types of people, but they are all over. No matter what substance that is available, people will overdose on it. Just because they do one thing, doesn't mean that you will wind up the same.

    I know that people see the extremes of substance abuse and say they don't want to end up that way, so they don't touch it and that is fine. But don't be brainwashed by the media. Those people consume a hell of a lot of that substance and just because you have a small amount compared to them, doesn't mean you are going to turn into the same. Unless you have zero will-power and have a extremely addictive personality, the same won't happen.​
     
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    I came from Manchester and I have also seen those types of people, but they are all over. No matter what substance that is available, people will overdose on it. Just because they do one thing, doesn't mean that you will wind up the same.

    I know that people see the extremes of substance abuse and say they don't want to end up that way, so they don't touch it and that is fine. But don't be brainwashed by the media. Those people consume a hell of a lot of that substance and just because you have a small amount compared to them, doesn't mean you are going to turn into the same. Unless you have zero will-power and have a extremely addictive personality, the same won't happen.​

    It only takes one bullet to be fatal, not everyone is so lucky.
    And the media didn't have any effect on my perspective, I saw the car swerve in the road and wrap around the pole asif it were a piece of rubber that'd been left in the sun.I had to see that poor woman walk around with discoloured skin because of what alchohol did to her.
    Im not saying others shouldn't drink, but when you've seen someone hurt by something you dont go and do it yourself.
     

    WriteThemWrong

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    I do enjoy it when I get lovely IMs from my drunken online buddies though.
    Drunk texts are even funnier.

    Now that I've thought about it, I've only ever drank when I'm happy, at a party or after a big acheivement. I can't really see myself overdosing on alcohol because it's become more of a celebration to me.
     

    Cherrim

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    I'm old enough to drink, and I do drink on occasion, but I'm really not that big a fan of alcohol. There are some drinks I really love (raspberry vodka coolers, raspberry beer, ...see a pattern?) but I haven't really been allowed to drink for the last few months and I've NEVER gotten past tipsy before so... I'm not that interesting. As someone who uses pain medication and has blacked out almost an entire month because of it, I don't see the appeal in getting absolutely drunk and not remembering anything from it. :P No thank you! But getting tipsy? Sure, the light-headedness can be fun.
     

    Osha_say_wott?!

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    Not quite the same. It's not like you can have a kid and then decide you don't want kids afterwards, which you can for alcohol. With children, you're forced to make the decision without any firsthand experience.

    In my opinion, especially if you're not at drinking age yet but it still applies to people over it, if you've never even tried alcohol once, you don't have enough data to make that decision. Unlike with children, you're able to gather data such as trying alcohol in a safe environment to see if you actually enjoy it. But instead of gathering data, many people here just choose to make the decision with little to no firsthand information, making the decision very ill-informed and not likely to hold up very well if they ever actually try it.

    I can only speak from my own personal experience, and I used to be on my own high horse when I was younger. I would disdain to even touch alcohol, thinking that people who did at my age were stupid and no one should ever drink and I would never let alcohol touch my lips. Now I look back on that and think how closed-minded I was, when I thought I was completely open and non-judgmental.

    It's different if someone has tried alcohol and decided that they're just not interested for whatever reason, but making the decision without firsthand experience when you have access to firsthand experience seems very illogical to me.

    Actually, one can have a kid and then decide they don't want it afterwards. It's called adoption. Also, some people adopt/foster kids only to return them afterwards. It's sad, but it happens. =( It is capable to garner experience, one can simply babysit. Especially if a family member relies on you to care after them for extended periods of time. n_n It's not the same as having a kid yourself, but it sure does give you some experience.

    Ouch. Assuming and implying many people here made their decision without seeking information is a little harsh if they did. D= Maybe people here have made the dedication to put effort into doing their research. Some people actually take the time to research the cause and effects from consuming alcohol. Ever heard of Straight Edge? Teetotalism? There are people who actually think long and hard before taking up a lifestyle choice, such as not to consume alcohol. Who am I to doubt if anyone here hasn't done any sort or research? x3

    Not having firsthand experience doesn't really make much sense. *~* Some people simply can't drink due to religion practices. Others have a long family history of alcoholism and choose not to drink, seeing as alcoholism is hereditary. So, one doesn't necessarily need to try alcohol to come to the conclusion they don't ever want to partake in drinking the substance.

    By your logic, one also shouldn't be so closed minded to try heroine or other types of drugs. o.o


    By your logic then, if I go to a new shop and buy something like a bottle of Coke. I then keep coming back every so often to buy that same bottle of Coke, does this mean I am developing dependence towards it?​


    Coke contains caffeine, which is a drug, that can cause a devleopement in dependency for. So, to answer your question; Yes, you would be developing a dependency towards it.^^
     

    Nutella

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    So who here drinks? Do you drink regularly, or not often, or not at all? If you don't drink, why not? If you do drink, how drunk do you tend to get?

    I'm a social drinker, and I go out to clubs and pubs pretty much once a week. I'm very picky about what I drink- I dislike most straight spirits, beers, wines and champagnes. However, with the drinks I do enjoy, such as cocktails and premixers, I genuinely likethe taste, and I don't drink solely to get drunk.

    I'm a fast drinker, so I can be sober for a while, but suddenly get drunk when my body absorbs so much alcohol at once. I tend to get tipsy, but occasionally, I'll have to admit that I get smashed off my face.

    It can be very fun, and it can help with socialisation- even though I don't have much trouble without the aid of alcohol. I guess I start to feel like a Vodka raspberry when everybody else gets one~
     

    Mr Cat Dog

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    And here's me thinking I'd be the only teetotaller on PC! Oh the naivety on my part!

    Having been of drinking age for nearly three years now, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to take up the habit now. I've had samples of loads of drinks - beer, cider, whisky, alcopops, vodka, tequila, sambuca, cocktails - and I can't stand any of them. All of them leave a horrible after-taste that I immediately need to wash out with a soft drink, and only cocktails are tolerable in the moment of consumption (because they taste, at first, nothing like alcohol).

    That being said, I love being around people who are a little bit intoxicated. They get to open up and I, by being around them, open up a little bit myself. It also gives me the chance to help babysit them, which I enjoy in a weird sort of way. The next day is especially fun, when I can regale to my friends the tales of last night, to a chorus of "Oh no, I can't believe I did that" and "Her? Really?" Good times!
     

    Bluerang1

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    Well, I'm lucky since I don't like the taste of alcohol, I can't get drunk! Though, what Captain Fabio said scares me, I don't want to like alcohol. I'm still under-age so I don't drink. But so far, Bailey's is the best tasting one xD I also use rum is it? Dunno but there's one I like gargling with when I have a sore throat or mouth ulcer, keeps the mouth numb :)
     

    Alice

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    I have no desire to ever even try it. Although I've been presented with the chance many times, and am approaching the legal drinking age.

    It makes me laugh how some people say 'they never will' drink alcohol; give it time. Everyone dislikes the taste of alcohol the first few times, it is normal.​
    If I never try it, how will I get used to it? Also, having ADHD, and Aspergers, there's no way of knowing how it will affect me, and I honestly don't want to find out.
     
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    I drink near enough every day. I only get wrecked on a Friday night though, otherwise I won't wake up in time for class in the morning. I don't see a problem with it really. I drink a lot and somehow continue to be a functional member of society, a miracle!
     
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    I drink occasionally. None of my friends are big partiers or big drinkers themselves so that's not really what we do when we hang out (although that could change when we all become drinking age this year XD;), but I will have the occasional drink here and there, mainly with family. Actually, I think my friends and I have only drank together... once, at Christmas. Anyway. Sometimes I'll have a beer with my mom or we'll mix a drink but I don't drink a whole lot otherwise.
     

    Hiidoran

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    So who here drinks?
    That would be me. o/

    Do you drink regularly, or not often, or not at all?
    Well, I didn't start drinking until I went off to college. I know, I know, "say no to peer-pressure," and all that. But really, when all your friends are older and that's what they do after studying... you just end up joining them. Back at my old university, I'd drink quite a few times a month. Whether just between friends or at parties, but it wasn't out of control or anything. Now days, I barely touch the stuff. No one to really drink with, so, no need. Drinking alone is kinda pointless.

    If you do drink, how drunk do you tend to get?
    I've never been so drunk that I've vomited or even had a bad hangover in the morning. I drink just enough to get buzzed, stay that way for a bit, and then my stomach tends to tell me when to stop. I've got to the point where I'm staggering around a bit and drunk texting people... but I've never been drunk to the point that I've regretted it later. :]
     

    Perriechu

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    So who here drinks?
    That would be me. :P So I'm an under aged drinker? :x

    Do you drink regularly, or not often, or not at all?
    I don't drink often, probably just once a month, and a small drink now and then. I don't get absolutely smashed. @_@

    If you do drink, how drunk do you tend to get?
    I find it impossible to get Drunk! :( I can drink and drink and drink and still be sober. Quite boring when everyone else is having fun. |: I've gotten drunk once though, and the amazing thing was, no hangover. Go me! \o/
     

    daf

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    I think it's interesting that 99% of the replies are either an extreme (never or barely drank, don't intend to continue) or indifferent. While I have no right to be judgmental, and I hope it doesn't sound that way, if you are under the legal drinking age and the only exposure you have had to alcohol is from your family or other, underage friends, be prepared for your "never ever" attitude to change. For most people, it's not like you wake up one morning and just go "well herp derp, I think I'll buy a handle of vodka and drink the whole thing!" and then become an alcoholic and beat your kids. Yes, if alcoholism runs in your family you are more prone to addiction. But it takes YEARS to become physically addicted, and if you know that you have that history, you should also know you need to be cautious. It's certainly commendable if you have the notion you will never drink, but it's also incredibly unrealistic given western culture unless we're talking religious/medical reasons.

    My TL;DR story:
    After years of being uninterested in alcohol or drugs on grounds I considered a "personal choice", I started drinking when I was 17, moderately and always with just a few close friends every two or three weeks. My friends never pressured me into drinking. In fact, I didn't even care about drinking in excess with them and I can't recall a time we ever did until well after our graduation. Mostly we would split a bottle of something cheap and gross and play XBox for hours. After about 5-6 months, I started dating a guy older than me, who I would later realize was a complete enabler. I then began to drink heavily until around the beginning of this year. Mostly liquor, occasionally beer. At my worst (or best, depending how you look at it), I could put down 10 or more shots in 3 or so hours. I would do this several days a week. While I've only blacked out twice, I'm sure I've had alcohol poisoning on several occasions and I later figured my highest tolerance before throwing up/passing out was around a BAC of .35 (I've been told at .4, you are probably in a coma). Following high school and my first semester of college (community, and I lived at home), this was mostly by myself or with my boyfriend at the time and rarely in a social setting. Last year, I ran into some "legal trouble" with this...at which point, the story of my father's alcoholism came out. All of it started to make sense - why I had such a high tolerance, why I had difficulty judging when I should stop drinking...why I enjoyed it so much. If I had known about the genetic side of it, perhaps I would have made better choices. In the same light, the things I did and the way it worked out is not something I would ever trade. I gained three incredible people in my life, got promoted and received a raise, paid off my car, and am now getting ready to move out...not solely because of what happened, mind you, but they were all direct products of it.

    I still drink. And sometimes, I'll slip and drink more than I probably should. I know if I keep alcohol in my house, it will not last...so I don't. But I also don't like spending $4 dollars on a mediocre beer or $7 on a weak mixed drink...because if I'm drinking to get hammered, $4 turns into $40 very quickly. It's become an elaborate balancing act of remembering not to get too full of myself when I go out...sure, I could crush you in car bombs or whatever and you'll never hear the end of it. Do I really want to? Secretly, no. I've already grown out of it. So shut up and quit pestering me, I just want to enjoy my drink and I am tired of feeling like I got run over by a truck when I wake up.

    During my multi-year bender, the best advice I learned was this: if you go out, and especially if you want to go back, tip your bartender well. If you are rude, sloppy, loud or underage and you tip terribly, your bartender will not be your friend and will not give you strong drinks when you come back. If you are rude, sloppy, loud or underage and you tip like a champ, your bartender will look the other way when you go and throw up all over the only bathroom they have.

    TL;DR over.
     
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