Aliens: Discussion

[uskelly]

Think about it, how did the Egyptians build it in a small amount of time then? :o

And Atlantis is a fairy tale o.o

Slaves. Take the Romans for example. They shipped huge pieces of marble and set them strait to build the HUGE buildings that still stand today. I forgot the auctual numbers but tons upond tons. How? Not Aliens. They found other methods such as building a ship Around the marble, shipping it off, then uprightening it using other means.

"Aliens" is a very overused term that has lost meaning in my opinion.
"a creature from outer space; extraterrestrial." Does not mean they are more intellegent than us.


I'm not argueing that they don't exist. In fact, it's very possible as seen in the example of earth. However, it's unlikely that they are like us, or anything that can process a thought. More like Bacteria.

As for the paintings and carvings, think of how UNLIKELY it is for other creatures to evolve JUST like humans. It's nigh impossible that they have similar arms, legs, body shape, etc. And Helicopter? Flying things? How about today? Space Time Warp, Light Sabers xD In the same sence, these things seemed far away and were great for imagination. It's great for Sci Fi though :)

 

[Jolene]

Hmm no I think that any intelligent aliens would look kind of similar to humans because this is the most suitable shape for intelligent life I think.

 

[Charizard★]

Slaves. Take the Romans for example. They shipped huge pieces of marble and set them strait to build the HUGE buildings that still stand today. I forgot the auctual numbers but tons upond tons. How? Not Aliens. They found other methods such as building a ship Around the marble, shipping it off, then uprightening it using other means.

Actually they didn't use boats or stuff to make the pyramids, and we can't even recreate what they did with machines in the amount of time that they did, so technically, we have no idea if they got help or not.

 

[Rich Boy Rob]

There is no doubt in my mind that Aliens exist. The law of large numbers tells us that anyway, it's the whole monkey's with typewriters thing. It would be very ignorant to categorically state that we are the only living things in our universe.
The real question is how close they are.

The idea that living life as we know it requires Water, almost seems like a myth to me. Animals have adapted. So aliens on other life may of never had water, so they adapted to another chemical, but that's not saying they needed water in the first place. So its just a matter of rarity. How many planets contain alien life? We don't know.

Scientists are basing alien discovery around Earth's conditions. They need to expand their spectrum because they are not, on Earth.

I agree 100%. The only problem is, we have to have some kind of yard stick. Otherwise, we would have to investigate every single planet we discover to have any idea of whether life could have existed on it.

The only idea to do with aliens that I reject completely is the concept that intelligent beings are humanoid. The idea that life on a completely different planet with totally different conditions would evolve a creature with eyes, arms, legs and a mouth just like us is absurd. Even if a carbon copy of the Sol system existed and life bloomed on Earth 2, then even the life on that planet would have almost certainly evolved completely differently to our wildlife.

 

[Jolene]

The only idea to do with aliens that I reject completely is the concept that intelligent beings are humanoid. The idea that life on a completely different planet with totally different conditions would evolve a creature with eyes, arms, legs and a mouth just like us is absurd. Even if a carbon copy of the Sol system existed and life bloomed on Earth 2, then even the life on that planet would have almost certainly evolved completely differently to our wildlife.

Yes a lot of creatures on other planets would evolve differently to the ones on Earth but the only intelligent life forms would be the ones which are human-shaped.

 

[SIN1488]

I think there are very high chances of there being life somewhere else in the Universe, as it is so large and with so many stars out there, I think there is a huge chance of there being planets orbiting them in that sort of "sweet spot" where the temperatures are just right for life to form and live.

And about aliens/extraterrestrials coming near our Solar System, I really doubt it, except for asteroids with foreign bacteria and such, though I don't think scientists have ever found evidence of those. And I know that's not really what you meant, but I think that's the closest we will ever see to "aliens".

And here's something I posted in a another thread, that I don't feel like typing up again:

Yes, I think so. And I have a feeling that they could be drastically different from us, so different that they would even have a different set of molecules that make up their "DNA". Not the usual A,C,T,G molecules that we are so familiar with, but something unique that works perfect with their environment. And because they would be made of different molecules with different properties, I'm guessing they would not be at all like the life we are familiar with.

Of course, they would still have to behave like life anywhere, absorbing something to use as energy and growth, and releasing excess materials left over from reactions that break down compounds.

Of course, this is all basically Sci-Fi stuff straight from my head, but I don't see why it couldn't work. :P

I think that because I doubt there is just one specific set of conditions that would cause life to form in the early stages of a planet, I think there could be many conditions that depend on how much of certain elements are available. And maybe if there were different amounts of elements available than the ones on planet Earth in an early stage, then maybe the planet could be in a different position then that "sweet spot" I mentioned earlier, as higher or lower temperatures might be just right for that set.

I mean, we think of life as made of Carbon and having DNA, along with the most abundant elements, but I doubt that's the only set of atoms and molecules life could be made of.

 

[Legobricks]

Here's another interesting picture.

Pre-Etruscan paintings in Italy. Notice the see-through, bubble shaped helmets.

Or they're just halos, a common and not exclusively Abrahamic symbol used to designate important persons in artpieces. Why they're hollow is simply because there's only one colour used in that painting — drawing an opaque halo would obscure their heads entirely. You might notice the rays eminating from the rings, something often done with halos. Who the persons in the painting are, I don't suppose it can be said, but it looks to me like two warriors, probably heroes in their day.

That's what I think of it, at least.

 

[SIN1488]

Or they're just halos, a common and not exclusively Abrahamic symbol used to designate important persons in artpieces. Why they're hollow is simply because there's only one colour used in that painting — drawing an opaque halo would obscure their heads entirely. You might notice the rays eminating from the rings, something often done with halos. Who the persons in the painting are, I don't suppose it can be said, but it looks to me like two warriors, probably heroes in their day.

That's what I think, anyway.

That, or they also kind of look like those ceremonial headwear things (lol, for lack of better words, basically those things you see Indians wearing in old movies). Or, maybe instead of halos, it was suppose to represent their consciousness, as even people way back then would be able to figure out that there mind exists up there where their skull is?

And about those triangle formations on the first page...... seriously? There are triangles everywhere in nature, if you want to go around connecting 3 points in search of signs of alien life, be my guest, but it's a common occurrence. *facepalm*

 

[Livewire]

That, or they also kind of look like those ceremonial headwear things (lol, for lack of better words, basically those things you see Indians wearing in old movies). Or, maybe instead of halos, it was suppose to represent their consciousness, as even people way back then would be able to figure out that there mind exists up there where their skull is?

And about those triangle formations on the first page...... seriously? There are triangles everywhere in nature, if you want to go around connecting 3 points in search of signs of alien life, be my guest, but it's a common occurrence. *facepalm*

But not that precise. That angles and the alignment of those forms is accurate to a single degree, Which nature simply doesn't make. Those three pyramids/triangles, match up perfectly with the three stars in the belt of the constellation Orion.

Or they're just halos, a common and not exclusively Abrahamic symbol used to designate important persons in artpieces. Why they're hollow is simply because there's only one colour used in that painting — drawing an opaque halo would obscure their heads entirely. You might notice the rays eminating from the rings, something often done with halos. Who the persons in the painting are, I don't suppose it can be said, but it looks to me like two warriors, probably heroes in their day.

That's what I think of it, at least.

That's the beauty of it- Well, It could be this, or it could be that. It's open to interpretation.

 

[Zemu]

It would be ignorant to say that 'they' do not exit. Our Earth is only a dot in that wide universe, so I, or any person, would find it hard to believe there are no other life forms outside our dot.

 

[poopnoodle]

interesting news story:



simultaneously creepy and awesome o _ o i want to believe! what do you guys think of this...alien spacecraft? government conspiracy? spiritual orbs ?

 

[Amai]

Or they're just halos, a common and not exclusively Abrahamic symbol used to designate important persons in artpieces. Why they're hollow is simply because there's only one colour used in that painting — drawing an opaque halo would obscure their heads entirely. You might notice the rays eminating from the rings, something often done with halos. Who the persons in the painting are, I don't suppose it can be said, but it looks to me like two warriors, probably heroes in their day.

That's what I think of it, at least.

They look like halos, which the concept behind halos did not even exist during the time those were created.

 

[Livewire]

They look like halos, which the concept behind halos did not even exist during the time those were created.

Pre-Etruskan paintings would predate the Romans by a few centuries, so we'd be talking about before 770 B.C.E, so you're right. They pre-date christianity by several centuries.

 

[SIN1488]

But not that precise. That angles and the alignment of those forms is accurate to a single degree, Which nature simply doesn't make. Those three pyramids/triangles, match up perfectly with the three stars in the belt of the constellation Orion.

If nature decides to flip 100 coins at once over and over again, eventually it will get 100 heads or tails. When there are so many possibilities that are repeated all the time, eventually the same results will come up. And it's been known that patterns often repeat themselves in nature, so it's really not so amazing...... Especially when there are only so many possible sets of degrees in the angles of a triangle.....

 

[Tony Stark]

If nature decides to flip 100 coins at once over and over again, eventually it will get 100 heads or tails. When there are so many possibilities that are repeated all the time, eventually the same results will come up. And it's been known that patterns often repeat themselves in nature, so it's really not so amazing...... Especially when there are only so many possible sets of degrees in the angles of a triangle.....

What he means is that perfect angles do not occur in nature, at all. Exactly measured, 45, 90, 120, etc, degree angles are only possible through being made by human hands. Nature doesn't work on that precise of a level, at least not in rock formations.

 

[SIN1488]

What he means is that perfect angles do not occur in nature, at all. Exactly measured, 45, 90, 120, etc, degree angles are only possible through being made by human hands. Nature doesn't work on that precise of a level, at least not in rock formations.

*facepalm*

Yes it does, as the rocks are just three points, it's humans that choose which three rocks and make lines to make them a triangle, otherwise it's just 3 rocks. >_<

With all the rocks there are in some rocky area, you could make all sorts of triangles with them, including ones with a square angle. >_<

Seriously just freakin rocks...... >_<

 

[Rich Boy Rob]

interesting news story:



simultaneously creepy and awesome o _ o i want to believe! what do you guys think of this...alien spacecraft? government conspiracy? spiritual orbs ?

Wow, pretty damned creepy. I thought it was just a meteor or some other NEO until the separated "parts" just stopped and hovered in the air for a while. And I have to say that I agree with the newsreader when he said those looked eerily similar to the ones in Manhattan.

 

[Zebeedoo]

I believe that aliens exsist. On a different planet/galaxy that is. I don't think that humans and animals are the only living lifeforms around. There must be more. But no one can be sure. When someone claims to have seen an alien, some people are sure it's fake, while on the other hand, some people actualy believe it. I supose we may or may not find out, depending on if someone actualy meets and alien and comes back alive. o/

 

[SIN1488]

I met an alien once, his name was pedro...... :o

But yeah, with how many stars there are in just one galaxy, and how many planets orbit one star, I'm sure the chances of life on another planet in just our galaxy must be fairly high.

 

[Livewire]

*facepalm*

Yes it does, as the rocks are just three points, it's humans that choose which three rocks and make lines to make them a triangle, otherwise it's just 3 rocks. >_<

With all the rocks there are in some rocky area, you could make all sorts of triangles with them, including ones with a square angle. >_<

Seriously just freakin rocks...... >_<

That's what I'm trying to say, is that nature doesn't produce such detailed, geometrically accurate formations like that. Humans make those detailed formations. D: That's why you never see perfectly straight tree branches. You won't find Rocks, oranges, seeds, etc, that are perfect spheres, etc. Perfect geometric shapes are signs of being man-made.

interesting news story:



simultaneously creepy and awesome o _ o i want to believe! what do you guys think of this...alien spacecraft? government conspiracy? spiritual orbs ?

Woah. 0___0 Things like this are what make people believe.