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Altaria's RMT thread

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altaria221

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    Hi, this is my balanced pokemon team that needs some fine tuning. I am in the process of changing natures, but i will probably keep the movesets with their orignality for surprising opponents. All help will be appreciated.

    Aerodactyl @kings rock
    255 Atk: 255 Spd
    -naughty
    dragon claw
    stealth rock
    rock slide
    earthquake

    My lead, he sets up stealth rock just fine then pounds away. I need a good change of an item for him that is not a hax item. Dragon claw for dealing damage to dragons, stealth rock for residual damage, rock slide over stone edge for accuracy and EQ for just coverage and power.

    Gyarados @focus sash
    255 Atk: 255 Spd
    -relaxed
    dragon dance
    ice fang
    earthquake
    waterfall

    Not the ordinary taunt, adamant gyarados, but a decent one. His nature adds to his durability, and focus sash comes in handy because he is generally out before an entry hazard is set up. Ice fang is for dragon's and for the possible flinch and/or freeze, EQ for coverage, and waterfall for Stab.

    Tauros @choice band
    255 Atk: 255 Spd
    -relaxed
    earthquake
    stone edge
    zen headbutt
    body slam

    Once again, not a generic set. Although relaxed nature has slowed me down it really softens up physical blows when coupled with intimidate. Choice band for power and moves for type coverage and power. I'm looking for a better replacement for zen headbutt.

    Zapdos @life orb
    255 Sp Atk: 255 Spd
    -mild
    thunderbolt
    roost
    heat wave
    ancient power

    Once again, not generic. He hits hard with his three moves and heals with roost. Pretty simple. No hidden power because I was not going to soft reset that long. And Ancient power hurts fire, bug, flying, etc. and can give stat boosts, not very likely, but a nice addition.

    Umbreon @leftovers
    255 Hp: 255 Def
    -relaxed
    psychic
    dark pulse
    confuse ray
    toxic

    A defensive behemoth. He has taken stab Close Combats and Explosion before and survived. I know that moonlight would be better, but psychic has come in handy plenty of times to KO pesky fighting types with their stab attacks.

    Gallade @choice scarf
    255 Atk: 255 Spd
    -jolly
    stone edge
    night slash
    psycho cut
    close combat

    To round it all off, a nice revenge killer/physical end of game sweeper. After his main counters are neutralized I just go in and pound away with my enhanced speed and strong attack stats.

    I am in need of a special wall. I have an EV'd generic Blissey set, but I don't know what pokemon to replace. And restated, all help will be greatly appreciated J.
     
    Wow those natures are bad.

    255 evs do the same as 252 btw so you are wasting 4 evs.

    Aero: Jolly @ Focus Sash Taunt >> Dragon Claw 252 att / 252 speed / 6 def. To stop things setting up.
    Tauros : Jolly 252 att / 252 speed/ 6 hp
    Gyarados : Adamant @ Life Orb or Leftovers 252 att / 252 speed/ 6 def
    Zapdos : Timid 80 hp / 252 sp.att / 176 speed. Use Air Cutter >> Ancient Power if you cant get the hidden power.
    Umbreon: Wish/Taunt/Baton Bass/Mean Look 252 HP / 92 Sp.D / 164 Speed@ careful

    Anyway umbreon looks like kinda dead weight and could be replaced for something more useful. That and gallade really isnt the best revenge killer so i would advise finding a better one.
     
    I know the natures are bad the EV's are messed up
    Also i pride myself in surprising opponents with my non generic movesets
    Umbreon is really useful and easily outlasts other walls with toxic and confuse ray
    Not replacing Gyarados, he is responsible for about at least 2 KO's a battle on his own
    I know Tauros has bad speed nature and is why i might do Jolly, but might try impish for defense+intimidate works well
    Zapdos, I might restart and SR for a while to get a timid good IV one
    And Gallade is a powerhouse as well easily absorbing special fighting attacks aimed at Umbreon
     
    altaria221 said:
    I know the natures are bad the EV's are messed up
    Also i pride myself in surprising opponents with my non generic movesets
    Umbreon is really useful and easily outlasts other walls with toxic and confuse ray
    Not replacing Gyarados, he is responsible for about at least 2 KO's a battle on his own
    I know Tauros has bad speed nature and is why i might do Jolly, but might try impish for defense+intimidate works well
    Zapdos, I might restart and SR for a while to get a timid good IV one
    And Gallade is a powerhouse as well easily absorbing special fighting attacks aimed at Umbreon
    Click to expand...

    If you aren't going to take advice what is the point of this thread then?

    And non-generic movesets might be different, but they fail most of the time. Especially Umbreon, it has completely lackluster SpA, and using it is useless. Use what actually works, as D_A suggested.
     
    altaria221 said:
    I know the natures are bad the EV's are messed up
    Also i pride myself in surprising opponents with my non generic movesets
    Umbreon is really useful and easily outlasts other walls with toxic and confuse ray
    Not replacing Gyarados, he is responsible for about at least 2 KO's a battle on his own
    I know Tauros has bad speed nature and is why i might do Jolly, but might try impish for defense+intimidate works well
    Zapdos, I might restart and SR for a while to get a timid good IV one
    And Gallade is a powerhouse as well easily absorbing special fighting attacks aimed at Umbreon
    Click to expand...

    Umbreon doesnt beat any walls since they outstall you because they can actually recover. Umbreon is bad in OU as it is and really his only niche is trap and wish passing.

    I never said replace Gyarados, i said change that item i hope you realize how much of a joke of an item a sash is on anything other than leads right ? Weather, entry hazards all mess it up so its pointless. Life Orb and Lefties are better, simple.
     
    I am open to advice so long as people do not go on smogon which thinks for them, and just copy and paste movesets, items, etc. off of there

    After the battle i just had i beleive i will replace focus sash with leftovers thanks Azelf
    and confusion can really help with the opponent trying to use recover, or buys me a turn to switch to the appropriate pokemon

    Why do people rely on Smogon so much? I thought pokemon was about no two pokemon being the same, and seeing how they match up against each other. I guess i was wrong. :(
     
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    People aren't "relying" on Smogon. All it is is basically a list of movesets people conceived. It isn't just movesets that Smogon came up with.
     
    Yes, but if you look at the competitive battling areas practically all you see are pokemon with movesets, strategies, items from smogon
    It makes the game boring, and sorry for making this thread, i guess i am too stubborn to accept help Azelf please delete and the next one i make will actually need help that is appreciated
     
    altaria221 said:
    I am open to advice so long as people do not go on smogon which thinks for them, and just copy and paste movesets, items, etc. off of there

    After the battle i just had i beleive i will replace focus sash with leftovers thanks Azelf
    and confusion can really help with the opponent trying to use recover, or buys me a turn to switch to the appropriate pokemon

    Why do people rely on Smogon so much? I thought pokemon was about no two pokemon being the same, and seeing how they match up against each other. I guess i was wrong. :(
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    Before this thread derails into Smogon discussion, I'll clarify the Smogon issue.

    Smogon is just our knowledge of Pokemon accumulated and put in one place. It's just a place to find standard sets, which are the best sets that have proven effective; that is the important thing to remember if you are playing competitive Pokemon, which is the sole purpose of Strategies and Movesets.

    So as far as Pokemon being about no two Pokemon being the same...that's a thought you're going to have to ditch entirely. Competitive Pokemon is about winning, and that alone.

    And people don't rely rely on Smogon much...like I said, it's just common knowledge written down for reference. Most people know what's on there by heart since it's so common anyway. Being creative is good to an extent, but it can be a serious liability if you use things that simple aren't that good and/or are outclassed by other Pokemon.
     
    Ok then i will give the generic pokemon a try, however, nothing can really replace my current team (sorry but i will not stop calling pokemon from smogon generic, it will just stay that way for me)
    And if you look at my nature, that really is me headstrong, and quick to jump to conclusions
    Sorry about this entire thread, once again if a mod would please close/delete
     
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