Am I wasting my time?

Xae

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    Here's my first competitive team. It's primarily a bunch of beatsticks, but Dusknoir is in there for annoyance. I've just started raising, but I'm having second thoughts. Is there any pokemon that should be replaced? And I'm not using ubers.


    Mamoswine (Naughty) Shell Bell
    Snow Cloak
    EVs: Max attack and HP
    -Earthquake
    -Ancient Power
    -Avalanche
    -Hail

    Espeon (Rash) Lax Incense
    Synchronize
    EVs: Max Sp. Att. and speed
    -Calm Mind
    -Psychic
    -Light Screen
    -Hyper beam? - Maybe not, but I don't know what else to use…

    Glaceon (Quiet) Hold-???
    Snow Cloak
    EVs: Sp. Att. and Sp. Def.
    -Hail
    -Ice Beam
    -Water Pulse
    -Hyper Beam/Protect – I'm leaning towards the latter, but I'd like a second opinion

    Tyranitar (Brave) Scope Lens
    Sand Stream
    EVs: Max Attack and Sp. Def.
    -Protect
    -Brick Break
    -Crunch
    -Stone Edge

    Salamence (Adamant) King's Rock
    ??? - (I don't know Salamence's ability)
    EVs: Max Attack, good Speed and Sp. Att.
    -Dragon Dance
    -Dragon Claw - Or Dragon Rush, if he learns it
    -Flamethrower
    -Arial Ace


    Dusknoir (Brave) Leftovers
    Pressure
    EVs: Sp. Def and Defense
    -Shadow Sneak/Shadow Punch
    -Confuse Ray
    -Toxic
    -Curse? - I'm worried about the HP cut on this one...

    And that's my team. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!

    -Xae
     
    Hyper Beam and its variants are very bad in competitive battle since it leaves you vulnerable for a turn.
     
    Mamoswine (Adamant Nature) Life Orb
    Snow Cloak
    EVs: 64 HP / 252 Atk / 192 Spe
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -ice Shard
    -ice fang


    lets use that

    Espeon (Rash) Lax Incense
    Synchronize
    EVs: Max Sp. Att. and speed
    -Calm Mind
    -Psychic
    -Light Screen
    -Hyper beam? - Maybe not, but I don't know what else to use…


    Get a proper special sweeper, espeon is better as a baton passer, and you have nothing to receive Calm Mind boosts.


    Glaceon (Quiet) Hold-???
    Snow Cloak
    EVs: Sp. Att. and Sp. Def.
    -Hail
    -Ice Beam
    -Water Pulse
    -Hyper Beam/Protect – I'm leaning towards the latter, but I'd like a second opinion


    Dont use that, it dies to Stealth Rock and you have no spinner. Use Vappy, it provides your team with more support.

    Vaporeon@leftovers
    188 HP /252 DEF / 70 SP.ATT
    Bold Nature
    Trait : Water Absorb
    - ice Beam
    - Surf
    - Wish
    - protect


    Tyranitar (Adamant) Choice Band
    Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 ATT /196 SPEED / 60 HP
    -Earthquake
    -Pursuit

    -Crunch
    -Stone Edge

    You already have a dragon dancer, so lets make this choice band

    Salamence (Adamant) Leftovers / Life Orb
    Intimidate
    EVs: 120 HP / 252 ATT / 136 SPEED
    -Dragon Dance
    -Dragon Claw
    -Flamethrower / Fire Blast / Stone Edge
    -Earthquake

    DD mence.


    Dusknoir (Impish) Leftovers
    Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 180 DEF / 76 Sp.def
    -Shadow Sneak / Fire Punch
    -Pain Split
    -Thunderpunch
    - Will-o-wisp

    Eww, that needed alot of help, you need a Gyarados counter, so use t-punch and shadow sneak. Or Fire Punch, seeing as your beaten up badly by heracross.

    Right changes are in bold, this need alot of work.


    Get a special sweeper, your far too physical, and get a special wall aswell, dusknoir can do all the walling on its own.

    Maybe a rapid spinner aswell, Mence hates Stealth Rock...


    Also kinda Weavile weak...., a steel type such as metagross would go nice here.
     
    Why must you run Sandstorm on such a team like this? The only Pokemon that aren't affected my Sandstorm is Mamoswine and Tyranitar. This team needs a better defense system. A steel type does good on this team.
     
    Right changes are in bold, this need alot of work.


    Get a special sweeper, your far too physical, and get a special wall aswell, dusknoir can do all the walling on its own.

    Maybe a rapid spinner aswell, Mence hates Stealth Rock...


    Also kinda Weavile weak...., a steel type such as metagross would go nice here.

    Thanks a bunch, I knew it needed some help.

    What if I kept Mamoswine slow, maybe Brave nature, and kept on avalanche with some better defense and Sp. Def. Evs? if that's not a good idea, I'll probably just get rid of Mamoswine for a special sweeper like you said, I'm thinking Magnezone for Gyarados.

    I'll switch out Espeon for a Metagross, sounds good...

    Glaceon for Vaporeon, okay

    The other move sets seem fine, too, but I think I might want to keep brick break in my party, though tyranitar does seem a bad choice for it. And as for Dusknoir, if I do go with a Magnezone for a special sweeper, I'd like to stick with an annoyer moveset w/ leftovers, since thunderpunch won't be needed.

    I'll take it all into consideration. Thank you!

    -Xae
     
    Thanks a bunch, I knew it needed some help.

    What if I kept Mamoswine slow, maybe Brave nature, and kept on avalanche with some better defense and Sp. Def. Evs? if that's not a good idea, I'll probably just get rid of Mamoswine for a special sweeper like you said, I'm thinking Magnezone for Gyarados.

    I'll switch out Espeon for a Metagross, sounds good...

    Glaceon for Vaporeon, okay

    The other move sets seem fine, too, but I think I might want to keep brick break in my party, though tyranitar does seem a bad choice for it. And as for Dusknoir, if I do go with a Magnezone for a special sweeper, I'd like to stick with an annoyer moveset w/ leftovers, since thunderpunch won't be needed.

    I'll take it all into consideration. Thank you!

    -Xae

    A good website to help you with pokemon

    https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/espeon

    Here is what id do.

    Keep the duskinor hes a very good defensive pokemon, and since you have none on your team keep him, altho duskinor is better with the egg move painsplit, and his nature needs to be defensive, either carefull which is preferd, or Impish.

    His moves should be

    Painsplit
    Fire Punch or thunderPunch
    ShadowSneak
    Wilo-Wisp

    As for switching Glaceon with vaporeon thats a bad idea IMO if you want a special sweeper i wouldnt go with one thats so slow like vaporeon. I would get a starmie be it timid or Modest, Timid being faster, Modest being more special atk.

    Teach Him

    Grassnot
    Thunderbolt
    Icebeam
    Surf

    Altho you dont have a rapid spinner so i would lose grassnot or icebeam for Rapidspin, but those 4 above are the best choices for a special sweeping starmie it can cover almost any pokemon and its faster then most of them too.

    And for Espeon keep it, change its nature to timid

    Change its move set to this, it would be really nice combo'd with the starmi, substitute to scout what the oponent is trying to use on, then do a calm mind and if you know Psychic wont cover it, baton pass out to starmie who will most likely be able to kill whoever your fighting specially with the boosted special atk your getting.

    Calm Mind
    Baton Pass
    Substitute
    Psychic

    If your going to keep mamoswine it needs to be adament with choice band or at least an expert belt or life orb

    Peck
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Ice shard
     
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