Arceus is God In/for Pokemon?

[Torii]

Arceus


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Diamond It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.
Pearl It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.
Platinum It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.

To anyone who's noticed this its basically god it said to have created pokemon, time emotions, humans, everything But another thing to be noticed about legends there becoming more powerful during the generations Arceus is said to be the last pokemon in the national dex which means it's the very last pokemon to exist~ (So far...)
But the other things to be noticed about this pokemon is that it was born from an egg, then in all means who? created the egg? I think theres still many unknown things about this pokemon, If you where to catch it, wouldn't it make you god or godly?...Whats your opinion on this pokemon?

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To read more about Arcues Head over to Bulbapedia and find out more about this pokemon~

 

[Timbjerr]

Since no self-respecting deity in any culture ever would allow itself to be captured and controlled by a kid, I choose to believe that Arceus is not the "Creator" pokemon described in legends, but rather an exceptionally powerful and rare pokemon that ancients believed was their creator.

They're called legends for a reason...that being that they may or may not be true. :P

 

[Maci12]

I'm with Timbjerr on this one. Apparently, every legendary shaped the world; Kyogre + Groudon, Arceus, Ho-oh + Lugia, etc. My guess is that next Generation, they come out with a 130 All Base Stat Pokemon and then give it the Pokedex entry saying it formed the world with 1,001 arms.

 

[Torii]

I understand what your both saying also i found something out heres an update~

Dialga, Palkia & Giratina​

If you bring over the special Arceus given away for the 12th movie, you will unlock Dialga, Palkia or Giratina. This is done by going to the Shinto Ruins, hidden somewhere in Johto with Arceus on your team. You will encounter Cynthia who will tell you that Arceus has the ability of creating certain Pokémon. These Pokémon are Dialga, Palkia & Giratina. You have a choice of the Pokémon you can create but you can only create one so choose wisely. They are at Level 1 and come with the Adamant, Lustrous & Griseous Orbs respectively. This is an event for new G/S game it can created one of them....so bascially the world kind of isnt balanced by multi pokemon Arcues created them its saying sort of.

 

[Azonic]

As in Pokemon, there are some things that are unexplained in religions too. The answer could be as shallow as "the egg was there since the very beginning". That's the only real thing I could think of. 0_o

 

[Redstar]

It's never stated that Arceus did anything but create the universe. It's highly possible that the other legendaries, and the basic Pokemon came about through other means.

 

[emoBill™]

Apparently there are several Pokemon that created the universe. My guess is that they're just going to keep this going until they run out of ideas for new Pokemon in a couple of years. I've given up in saying "Okay, this is the god Pokemon that created all the others." Although I do still hold true to the fact that Mew was the original creator of all Pokemon. If I had to pick a god Pokemon, it would be Mew.

But yeah, Arceus isn't the god Pokemon, and neither are any others. The very last god Pokemon created will probably be the god Pokemon, and even then people will say that that's not it.

There really are no god Pokemon in actuality. I guess they just poofed into being one day alongside the humans. Although since I'm a Christian I have the belief that God created humans...but then again this is a fictional world and anything could happen :pink_giggle:

 

[Luck]

There are a few flaws with your logic.

1.Arceus was described in mythology as being a god pokémon

Well, not only is it in a myth, but to show that it is even more wrong, it formed the universe with it's 1,000 arms, of which is also incredibly false. Arceus not only is a quadruped, but it can't even learn any "punching type" moves.

2.It isn't the god of pokémon.

There is a significant difference between the creator and the god. Just because you are the creator of something, doesn't mean that you are the god of it. Eg. mew. Before arceus, this was the most likely candidate as the god pokémon. However, that is flawed as well because it is believed to be the ancestor of all pokémon. This begs the question. What came first; mew or arceus? Clearly mew if it's data is correct, but that is a discussion for another day.

3. Even if Arceus was the god pokémon, that doesn't mean the end of pokémon.

Well, just to tell you, you are treating pokémon as a monotheistic religion. What is the chance that there is only one pokémon god? Why can't it be polytheistic like Hindu? And even then, why does Nintendo & Gamefreak have to follow its pattern and always 1-up their previous legendaries?

That is my 2 cents on this subject.

 

[emoBill™]

There are a few flaws with your logic.

1.Arceus was described in mythology as being a god pokémon

Well, not only is it in a myth, but to show that it is even more wrong, it formed the universe with it's 1,000 arms, of which is also incredibly false. Arceus not only is a quadruped, but it can't even learn any "punching type" moves.

2.It isn't the god of pokémon.

There is a significant difference between the creator and the god. Just because you are the creator of something, doesn't mean that you are the god of it. Eg. mew. Before arceus, this was the most likely candidate as the god pokémon. However, that is flawed as well because it is believed to be the ancestor of all pokémon. This begs the question. What came first; mew or arceus? Clearly mew if it's data is correct, but that is a discussion for another day.

3. Even if Arceus was the god pokémon, that doesn't mean the end of pokémon.

Well, just to tell you, you are treating pokémon as a monotheistic religion. What is the chance that there is only one pokémon god? Why can't it be polytheistic like Hindu? And even then, why does Nintendo & Gamefreak have to follow its pattern and always 1-up their previous legendaries?

That is my 2 cents on this subject.

...I might love you for explaining a heck of a lot what I couldn't seem to put into words.

 

[Timbjerr]

Dialga, Palkia & Giratina​

If you bring over the special Arceus given away for the 12th movie, you will unlock Dialga, Palkia or Giratina. This is done by going to the Shinto Ruins, hidden somewhere in Johto with Arceus on your team. You will encounter Cynthia who will tell you that Arceus has the ability of creating certain Pokémon. These Pokémon are Dialga, Palkia & Giratina. You have a choice of the Pokémon you can create but you can only create one so choose wisely. They are at Level 1 and come with the Adamant, Lustrous & Griseous Orbs respectively. This is an event for new G/S game it can created one of them....so bascially the world kind of isnt balanced by multi pokemon Arcues created them its saying sort of.

That HGSS event does indeed give credence to the legend...However, there is a rather large difference between creating three beings and letting them create a planet vs. creating the whole planet yourself. considering that, the working theory considering that the legends are somewhat true is that Arceus created Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, who, in turn, started the flow of time and the expansion of space, and...whatever it is that Giratina does. o_0

With matter essentially made right there, life was able to begin, beginning with Mew, pokemon evolved over time to create the 493 different species we have today while the dragon trio and Arceus rested.

Generally speaking, Arceus in the pokemon world is an analog to the Deist view of the Christian God...that being that He did His job setting all life in motion and is now rather passive when it comes to the world at large.

 

[Redstar]

There are a few flaws with your logic.

1.Arceus was described in mythology as being a god pokémon

Well, not only is it in a myth, but to show that it is even more wrong, it formed the universe with it's 1,000 arms, of which is also incredibly false. Arceus not only is a quadruped, but it can't even learn any "punching type" moves.

If Arceus truly is the "god" Pokemon, do you really think it'd be limited to one form? Many Indian gods are described as having thousands of arms, but are represented with only ten or less. It just can't be visualized, especially as a small sprite on a Gameboy.

Another thing you're looking over is that "1,000 arms" doesn't have to be taken literally. Again, if Arceus is "god", then it'd be unfathomable to humans. Stating him as having 1,000 arms or a million is placing human understanding onto a concept humans can't understand... Simply put, it's a metaphor.

 

[Torii]

Okay well most of you seem to be having Your own thing with this~ its possible that it created the Legendary pokemon to make the world You say that it is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.is false (from what i understand from a few) but i just go that info from serebii.net and diamond for the pokemons info for the pokedex~ I do understand stand what your all saying~ This was just something for fun~ Since i had nothing to do here~ Teeheehee~ But yeah after reading all your post it makes more sense to me about it~ Im unsure if mew created everything~ I just read some things about it and continued some searching into it and i got confused from reading~ and then i posted it here~ As for that event I posted that was my point about it being god in the event in creates the 3 just like that?.......Dailgia for time Gritania (kinda forgot Teeheehee~) Palkia for space and demensions But yeah i get what your all saying~ I havent givin up on trying to figure out finding which created it all~ I unthink it was mew, Then again we might never know~

 

[Luck]

If Arceus truly is the "god" Pokemon, do you really think it'd be limited to one form? Many Indian gods are described as having thousands of arms, but are represented with only ten or less. It just can't be visualized, especially as a small sprite on a Gameboy.

Another thing you're looking over is that "1,000 arms" doesn't have to be taken literally. Again, if Arceus is "god", then it'd be unfathomable to humans. Stating him as having 1,000 arms or a million is placing human understanding onto a concept humans can't understand... Simply put, it's a metaphor.

The problem with translating things into metaphors is that you can do that and cherry pick everything. It could be Arceus and his universe creation that is the metaphor as well. That is why I interpret a lot of things literally.

 

[Redstar]

The problem with translating things into metaphors is that you can do that and cherry pick everything. It could be Arceus and his universe creation that is the metaphor as well. That is why I interpret a lot of things literally.

No, not really. Not everything can be a metaphor. I'm a writer, and that's definitely not true.

But in the case of god, yes. Creation is in and of itself a metaphor. More of a literal metaphor, but still a metaphor.

 

[ArcanineOod]

Ahem:

'A being so powerful it was believed to be a deity.'

That's more or less what it says in the games. People thought it was a deity, but nowhere does it say it is a deity. ^_^

xX

 

[gigapoodle]

In Generation V it will be revealed that Arceus was one of the five Legendaries who shaped the world, and that the real god was his mom. 'Cause that's how Pokemon likes to work.

 

[Redstar]

Ahem:

'A being so powerful it was believed to be a deity.'

That's more or less what it says in the games. People thought it was a deity, but nowhere does it say it is a deity. ^_^

xX

"Deity" is a label attached by humans. There is no doubt that Arceus created the universe, but whether or not it is worshiped by any humans or Pokemon is debatable.

The same can be said of Mew: it is thought to have been the ancestor of all Pokemon. Well, we know it is. But no one in the Pokemon universe does. Why? Because they think it's extinct. They can only theorize something that we already know.

 

[Charmageddon]

I'd actually prefer that - a pantheon of uber-deitites, rather than just one ultimate deity, better than all the others.

 

[loucas]

i think having thousand arms meaning having many fors such arceus having many forms from plates..


and also, religion differ from region to region that maybe the case, which johto and sinnoh shared, the same religion, which accounts arceus as god of pokemon, assuming mew is the god, in kanto..

remember my point is beliefs of religions differ, thats what im saying, this might explain a little

 

[derozio]

I really don't take Arceus(or any other pokemon introduced upto now) as the 'GOD' pokemon. Its just a super rare, super strong and super ugly(My opinion xD) pokemon in my opinion.

According to the pokedex, as already pointed out, it is believed and its still not confirmed that it IS a pokemon 'GOD'. I think that nintendo will give us a whole newtwist, something that may surprise us literally and may change our whole view of perspective about him in the next Gen or in somewhere near future.

And as far as Mew goes, I never considered it a Pokemon 'GOD'. But Yeah, I believe it to be an ancestor.

In the end, I think that nintendo should be pretty clear to us about such things.But again, if they be clear then it won't generate mystery, and being shrouded in mystery can really be good for some things..