Arceus Question.

shedinjask said:
It's a good move, but he can do better.



Who uses Steelix in Ubers? Skarmory I can see, but Steelix would die in an instant. You have to worry about Forretress Explosion more. All Skarm can do is phaze you. And besides, every other Aruseus set has many many counters. Other Aruseus sets are not likely to guarentee a OHKO on pretty much the whole Uber metagame after a SD, and it doesn't even need Spd because you strike first. Giratina and Lugia stop it, sure, but you know what? They stop pretty much anything trying to set up, and this Aruseus stands a much better chance against them than, say, Life Orb or CM. It is by no means a perfect unbeatable Pokemon, but it is the best Aruseus set you're going to get. Ever.
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That's just bragging, and the funny part is that you're wrong. It is walled by steelix, who even yourself said wouldn't last in uber. Okay, so if it can't beat some BL pokemon, what makes you think it is the best? Wait, doesn't TTar counter that as well? Yup, it resists both attacks. Yeah, the best. That's a rather bold claim, and a wrong one at that. Heatran counters it, metagross to some extent, not the best set. Period.
 
Because Steelix can't last in Ubers. All it can do to Aruseus is slowly get killed by it and phaze it, where it is promptly murdered by Specs Mewtwo or something. Same goes for Heatran and Tyranitar. The fact is, nobody uses them in Ubers. Shedinja would wall half the OU metagame, but it's hardly ever seen there because of the abundance of Sandstream/Stealth Rock/Spikes. Speaking of Shedinja, Kygore can't beat it at all. But would you really suggest Ancientpower on it? Kyogre needs the standard, common moves it has to be at its best. I'm not saying Aruseus can beat anything, I'm saying it has a better chance at winning than other Aruseus. Sure, maybe Steelix can beat it, but Steelix is utter fail in Ubers Pokemon is not 1 on 1, it's 6 on 6. If Aruseus cannot take the opponent, you scare it off with something else. Steelix may wall Aruseus, but Umbreon, a max-hp no SDef Umbreon, walls special Aruseus.

And how am I bragging?
 
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shedinjask said:
And how am I bragging?
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I dunno, maybe saying this is the best set ever for Arceus? Hmm, what a toughie. IT isn't though. Pokemon may not be one-on-one, but if a BL pokemon walls it, that's not a good thing. Arceus is too powerful anyways, but that set weakens it. If you want coverage, go boltbeam, earthslide, or dragon and fire moves together. That set is more of a novelty. Again, any physical wall, especially one w/ iron defense, beats it down. Aggron can beat it, and it's a UU wall...
 
Shedinja walls any Kyogre set without a SE HP, Ancientpower, or Toxic. So is Kyogre really better with those moves?

Kyogre is walled be Shedinja unless it has Ancientpower, a SE HP, or Toxic. So is Kyogre really better with those moves?

Also that is not bragging. Bragging would be "I made this Aruseus set and it's the best. It beats everything. Aern't I smart?"
 
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But shedinja is thw only poke with wonder guard. In other words, it's an exception, so don't bring it up. If aggron can counter arceus, despite its movepool, there's no way it's the best set. Almost any steel type walls it, and so do many others. Groudon would hurt that thing a lot, A LOT. So that's what bragging leads to. Maybe a dragon pulse-flamethrower combo would be better? Yeah, as no pokemon I can think of besides blissey counter it. Oh wait, now we put in a physical move like extremespeed, and, whala! I give you a good mixed Arceus set! Not too tough realy, but I hope you get my point. You were bragging, but I won't get into that, as it would be useless for the thread.
 
Stop!!! This was just a little question!!!! You guys dont need to spam it up! I answered it! Leave and make a new thread!
 
NightonEX said:
Stop!!! This was just a little question!!!! You guys dont need to spam it up! I answered it! Leave and make a new thread!
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... looks like you just spammed too ;)
If it was a little question, then simply post "GO TO THE SIMPLE Q&A THREAD"
 
Actually, we were arguing, but not spamming. We were talking about the subject, we both just have strong opinions on the matter. We're arguing our points, don't see how that's spamming. Regardless, my position is the same. Arceus can fulfill many roles. It can wall, sweep, you name it, so I'd give it a diverse moveset to cover many types. That's my opinion on it.
 
arceus cant learn all the tms. it cant use the ones that require arms. also, anti-popculterwarrior13, friendlist-ed. what is WoW?
 
Will-o-Wisp. I never said it could learn all the TMs, I just said it has a large movepool.
 
wil-o-wisp, i never would have thought of that. i was sure you had said it could learn them all. sorry!
 
No, it's okay. I asked that question myself a short time ago. Can Arceus learn it? If so, it could be a monster physical wall...
 
hmm. i left mine untouched. what can i do with a calm arceus?
 
Special Sweeping mostly...or special walling...it cuts attack, which isn't good for physical sweeping.
 
hmm.. at least its capable of using judgment. it cuts attack, boosts what?
edit: sp defence. can you give me a movesset and evs if you have the time?
 
Special Defense. What does judgement do? I'm not into pokemon that aren't even legit as of now...or are they?
 
100 base damage 100 accuracy, special damage, normal type move with no bonues. changes type with plates, as does arceuss type. 10pp.
 
Then I don't see how Arceus can "do better" as shedinjask said earlier. That's like a more variable EQ.
 
Exactly what I meant. It's a very good attack. That should be the attack it loves to use...judgement...cool idea. Dragon judgement...even better.
 
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