[Approved] Battle Bash

[wolf]

This will be a tournament where players get points for battling on Showdown. Some ideas:

• 10 points for each battle won, and 5 points for each battle lost. Team-building formats (i.e., anything that isn't random) provide an extra 3 points regardless of the battle outcome. The goal is to incentivize team building without making random battles too irrelevant.
• A new format on the PC's server called Spooky Random. Basically, a random format that includes Ghost- and Dark-types, and probably Poison- and Psychic-types too. Pokemon like Zubat, etc.
• Allow Fortune Cup battles to count. Only problem is if Fortune Cup battles dominate, so both tournaments might result in the same winners. I don't think that's a problem, but I'm open to any suggestions if there are concerns. Could reduce the points earned for each Fortune Cup battle by -3 or so.
• Provide point bonuses each day (or every ~3 days) for certain formats. For example, OU could provide an extra 3 points each battle for ~3 days then Spooky Random and so on.
• Provide point bonuses for maintaining a streak of battling each day. This would incentivize consistent activity, but it'd probably be too unfair for people with busier lives.
• A bot that people can battle for points, capped at a limit each day or for the whole event duration. It'll have to be a bot that has functional battling AI, unlike PokeCommBot.
• Live elimination tournaments on Discord where each battle counts towards this and there's a bonus for winning it.

 

[gimmepie]

I'd definitely say scrap the streak idea. The rest seems solid.

 

[Arcaneum]

Yeah, I really like this! The streak thing I agree with yours and GP's points here - it's a cool idea but am worried it somewhat tips the scales in favour of players who can make it more frequently.

In terms of formats, what would you be looking to put into the pool? I see you mentioned OU and was jsut wondering if you're going to stick to UU/RU/NU/PU etc or are we going to see things such as Monotype and that make it in?

 

[wolf]

Agreed, I won't bother with the streak idea. Also, I intend to lower points earned for participants in the same team, like what was suggested for Fortune Cup.

One more thing, I just remembered that 1v1 battles exist. Instead of disallowing them, I'm thinking about adjusting the points for everything. 6v6 and 4v4 (VGC) battles could offer 60 per win / 30 per loss (different team) and 30 per win / 15 per loss (same team). 1v1 could offer 10 per win / 5 per loss (different team) and 5 per win / 2 per loss (same team), which is just dividing by 6. Then the point bonuses for battling in the showcased format would be multiplicative, like 30% of points earned will be the bonus. Random battles would be reduced by 30% of points earned. Granted, this makes everything more complicated, so it might be better to disallow 1v1/3v3 altogether.

Yeah, I really like this! The streak thing I agree with yours and GP's points here - it's a cool idea but am worried it somewhat tips the scales in favour of players who can make it more frequently.

In terms of formats, what would you be looking to put into the pool? I see you mentioned OU and was jsut wondering if you're going to stick to UU/RU/NU/PU etc or are we going to see things such as Monotype and that make it in?

I'm open to anything. Monotype will definitely happen because of its popularity. I'm thinking about going in the order of Spooky Random, OU, and Monotype. Each of those would last 3 days (maybe 2 days?). The last two are a toss up. Probably Little Cup and UU? Another interesting format would be 1v1, because of how different and fast-paced it is. It'd be a lot easier to make teams for too. I might ask the participants for suggestions on the last two showcased formats and choose whatever is popular or interesting.

 

[wolf]

WIP OP:

Spoiler:

Battle Bash

Battle Bash is a tournament where players get points for battling other PokéCommunity members on Pokémon Showdown. Any type of 6v6 or 4v4 battles are welcome, including Fortune Cup battles! All you have to do is make a post to sign up, include your Showdown usernames, and report your battles in this thread (preferably as replays). Add yourself to the "Battlers" role in PokéCommunity's Discord server to get pinged when people want to battle. You can find people to battle by either posting in this thread or pinging everyone yourself (send a Discord message with @Battlers).

Showcased Formats
There are showcased formats every 3 days. If you battle in the showcased format, you will get an extra 30% bonus in points. The showcased format changes at exactly midnight (EDT / GMT -4).

October 9th - 11th: Gen 8 Random Battle
October 12th - 14th: Gen 8 OU
October 15th - 17th: Gen 8 Monotype
October 18th - 20th: ???
October 21st - 23rd: ???

Suggest any formats you'd like to see for the last two, and I'll make a poll.

Points Breakdown
3v3 and 1v1 battles are disallowed because they would complicate the points breakdown.

Battles with the opposing Get-Together team
60 per win / 30 per loss

Battles with the same Get-Together team
30 per win / 15 per loss

To incentivize team-building formats and reward time spent making teams, random battles receive a 30% reduction in points. In the interest of being as fair as possible, decimal values are not rounded or truncated.

Live Tournaments
I'll occasionally try hosting live elimination tournaments on PokéCommunity's Discord server, usually during the weekends in my time zone (EDT / GMT -4). Any battles done for these tournaments receive a 30% bonus. Add yourself to the "Battlers" role to get pinged when these tournaments occur.

Leaderboard

000 - username - Showdown: username

000 - username - Showdown: username

 

[Arcaneum]

Agreed, I won't bother with the streak idea. Also, I intend to lower points earned for participants in the same team, like what was suggested for Fortune Cup.

One more thing, I just remembered that 1v1 battles exist. Instead of disallowing them, I'm thinking about adjusting the points for everything. 6v6 and 4v4 (VGC) battles could offer 60 per win / 30 per loss (different team) and 30 per win / 15 per loss (same team). 1v1 could offer 10 per win / 5 per loss (different team) and 5 per win / 2 per loss (same team), which is just dividing by 6. Then the point bonuses for battling in the showcased format would be multiplicative, like 30% of points earned will be the bonus. Random battles would be reduced by 30% of points earned. Granted, this makes everything more complicated, so it might be better to disallow 1v1/3v3 altogether.


I'm open to anything. Monotype will definitely happen because of its popularity. I'm thinking about going in the order of Spooky Random, OU, and Monotype. Each of those would last 3 days (maybe 2 days?). The last two are a toss up. Probably Little Cup and UU? Another interesting format would be 1v1, because of how different and fast-paced it is. It'd be a lot easier to make teams for too. I might ask the participants for suggestions on the last two showcased formats and choose whatever is popular or interesting.

Post looks good btw!

I think in the interest of keeping things a little simple in an event where I imagine most people won't really be as it were thinking about this that much, it might be best to disallow 1v1s and 3v3s altogether.

Regarding the other metas, I would be happy with something like Little Cup and ZU, but I also like the idea of making it tailored to the crowd! Maybe a poll throughout the first week and then have those showcased formats run the second week?

 

[gimmepie]

Could we get your Discord info so we can give you access to the EO channel?

 

[wolf]

Post looks good btw!

I think in the interest of keeping things a little simple in an event where I imagine most people won't really be as it were thinking about this that much, it might be best to disallow 1v1s and 3v3s altogether.

You're probably right. The only really notable formats are 1v1 and 1v1 Random, and dropping those isn't a big loss anyway.

Regarding the other metas, I would be happy with something like Little Cup and ZU, but I also like the idea of making it tailored to the crowd! Maybe a poll throughout the first week and then have those showcased formats run the second week?

A poll is a good idea!

Could we get your Discord info so we can give you access to the EO channel?

awolffromspace#3387

I'll update the OP soon with a simpler points breakdown and some details regarding the battle bot and live elimination tournaments.

 

[wolf]

Here is the final draft. I've been told that we can't use PC's Showdown server, so I had to scrap Spooky Random and the battle bot.

 

[gimmepie]

Looks good to me!

 

[Arcaneum]

Yeah everything looks good to me - yes unfortunately the server was canned a while back, probably should've mentioned that in hindsight, sorry about that.