Battlers Debate: Why is FLY so much hated?

[Kholdstaire]

This thread has an invisible sign that says "Please Close Me".

If you think this thread is dumb, then you can read the sign =]

 

[LanceLite]

HEY! IN DEBATES BY HELL U DONT FLAME!!! and theres NO WAY that im gonna use fly properly. i just took its side cos 99.9999% ppl will go against it. and that salamence fly battle i posted WAS TOTALLY dreamed up by me. i just posted it right there.

U GUYS NEED TO BE REPORTED RITE DOWN NOW.

 

[Melody]

HEY! fly isnt worthless! it is actually quite useful,

1.you cant get hit on 2nd turn until you attack
2. that turn can be used to avoid damage and maybe survive long enough to win
3.fly takes you places in the world, if you dont have fly then you cant get ANYWHERE with out walking/running/riding something includes boats or even the cable car on Ru/Sa
4. with proper move sets/held items you can use fly to your advantage

I think that the only reason you ppl say fly is worthless is because you are too stupid or too lazy to put it in a move set that can use it

Here is how i use fly in the battle
Me HP:100 Item:Leftovers
Opponent HP: 100 Item: Quick claw
Opponent uses tackle
i take 12 damage
I use fly
I recover 6 hp with left overs
opponent uses tackle, he misses
Using Quick claw opponent gets first attack
he uses tackle
I recover 6 hp using leftovers
i attack.
opponent takes 25 damage
Opponent uses tackle
i take 12 damage
I use fly
I recover 6 hp with left overs
opponent uses tackle, he misses
Using Quick claw opponent gets first attack
he uses tackle
I recover 6 hp using leftovers
i attack.
opponent takes 25 damage
Opponent uses tackle
i take 12 damage
I use fly
I recover 6 hp with left overs
opponent uses tackle, he misses
Using Quick claw opponent gets first attack
he uses tackle
I recover 6 hp using leftovers
i attack.
opponent takes 25 damage
Opponent uses tackle
i take 12 damage
I use fly
I recover 6 hp with left overs
opponent uses tackle, he misses
Using Quick claw opponent gets first attack
he uses tackle
I recover 6 hp using leftovers
i attack.
opponent takes 25 damage
the opponent faints
I win!:D

 

[Pokemon is chess]

You all are stupid. Fly sucks :\ Drill Peck is the best flying attack, and if you dare say Aeroblast is I hope your gameshark'd salamence enjoys 4 uses of aeroblast against suicune

 

[Spike Razzor]

HEY! fly isnt worthless! it is actually quite useful,

1.you cant get hit on 2nd turn until you attack
2. that turn can be used to avoid damage and maybe survive long enough to win
3.fly takes you places in the world, if you dont have fly then you cant get ANYWHERE with out walking/running/riding something includes boats or even the cable car on Ru/Sa
4. with proper move sets/held items you can use fly to your advantage

I think that the only reason you ppl say fly is worthless is because you are too stupid or too lazy to put it in a move set that can use it

Here is how i use fly in the battle
Me HP:100 Item:Leftovers
Opponent HP: 100 Item: Quick claw
Opponent uses tackle
i take 12 damage
I use fly
I recover 6 hp with left overs
opponent uses tackle, he misses
Using Quick claw opponent gets first attack
he uses tackle
I recover 6 hp using leftovers
i attack.
opponent takes 25 damage
Opponent uses tackle
i take 12 damage
I use fly
I recover 6 hp with left overs
opponent uses tackle, he misses
Using Quick claw opponent gets first attack
he uses tackle
I recover 6 hp using leftovers
i attack.
opponent takes 25 damage
Opponent uses tackle
i take 12 damage
I use fly
I recover 6 hp with left overs
opponent uses tackle, he misses
Using Quick claw opponent gets first attack
he uses tackle
I recover 6 hp using leftovers
i attack.
opponent takes 25 damage
Opponent uses tackle
i take 12 damage
I use fly
I recover 6 hp with left overs
opponent uses tackle, he misses
Using Quick claw opponent gets first attack
he uses tackle
I recover 6 hp using leftovers
i attack.
opponent takes 25 damage
the opponent faints
I win!:D

You are such a ingame n00b its not funny... Quick Claw DOES NOT insure a first hit, otherwise you would of lost on the first turn. When you use Fly, your opponent can switch to something that resist the attack and beat you down. Just because your friends with 6 legends on there team are too dumb to switch it doesn't mean than your newbie tactic will work.

Toothache, please close this stupid topic! This isn't even a debate, its meaning less spam. Its a bunch of Stupid, Pointless, Annoying Messages from people who have never battled seriously.

 

[Shuckle]

kk now, the most hated strategist is here to explian some things to ye of young age. :]

if you think fly is good out of ingame, you need to get off the computer and go die or something. and if you dont understand that fly is not good, I dont know how you understood how to turn on the computer, because they tank about the same brain activity to do.

now on a final note

yo ppls, strats and ms is getting too big for the likes of one crazy brit, we need at least one new mod hur, and you know hwo I am thinking of.

 

[MegaDitto]

I think why fly is hated because there is a chance of it to be negated before it hit's.

 

[HellishHades]

HEY! IN DEBATES BY HELL U DONT FLAME!!! and theres NO WAY that im gonna use fly properly. i just took its side cos 99.9999% ppl will go against it. and that salamence fly battle i posted WAS TOTALLY dreamed up by me. i just posted it right there.

U GUYS NEED TO BE REPORTED RITE DOWN NOW.

And politicians -- people who debate -- are nice people, who never call each other nasty names.

You all are stupid. Fly sucks Drill Peck is the best flying attack, and if you dare say Aeroblast is I hope your gameshark'd salamence enjoys 4 uses of aeroblast against suicune

That's the right shite.

Toothache, please close this stupid topic! This isn't even a debate, its meaning less spam. Its a bunch of Stupid, Pointless, Annoying Messages from people who have never battled seriously.

I think the Monty Python crew was talking about this thread when they sang "Spam, Spam, Spam..." Who's the dolt that made that acronym? I'm afraid that's not the right shite, but your point is well taken.

Protect || Sub > Fly;
Thus, Fly = shite;

QED;

 

[Shuckle]

:[ so many quotes and none of them mine. I do like the mention of monty python tho.

"Its not a question of where he grips it, its a question of air speed velocity."

 

[Jarmen_Kell]

HEY! fly isnt worthless! it is actually quite useful,

1.you cant get hit on 2nd turn until you attack
2. that turn can be used to avoid damage and maybe survive long enough to win
3.fly takes you places in the world, if you dont have fly then you cant get ANYWHERE with out walking/running/riding something includes boats or even the cable car on Ru/Sa
4. with proper move sets/held items you can use fly to your advantage

I think that the only reason you ppl say fly is worthless is because you are too stupid or too lazy to put it in a move set that can use it

Here is how i use fly in the battle
Me HP:100 Item:Leftovers
Opponent HP: 100 Item: Quick claw
Opponent uses tackle
i take 12 damage
I use fly
I recover 6 hp with left overs
opponent uses tackle, he misses
Using Quick claw opponent gets first attack
he uses tackle
I recover 6 hp using leftovers
i attack.
opponent takes 25 damage
Opponent uses tackle
i take 12 damage
I use fly
I recover 6 hp with left overs
opponent uses tackle, he misses
Using Quick claw opponent gets first attack
he uses tackle
I recover 6 hp using leftovers
i attack.
opponent takes 25 damage
Opponent uses tackle
i take 12 damage
I use fly
I recover 6 hp with left overs
opponent uses tackle, he misses
Using Quick claw opponent gets first attack
he uses tackle
I recover 6 hp using leftovers
i attack.
opponent takes 25 damage
Opponent uses tackle
i take 12 damage
I use fly
I recover 6 hp with left overs
opponent uses tackle, he misses
Using Quick claw opponent gets first attack
he uses tackle
I recover 6 hp using leftovers
i attack.
opponent takes 25 damage
the opponent faints
I win!:D

Your opponent uses Tackle... Ewwww...

1. and 2.

Pidgeot used Fly!
Pidgeot flew up high!
Magnetric used Thunder!

*Battle Animation*

It's Super Effective!
Pidgeot Fainted!

Gust and Twister also hit when opponent uses Fly.

3. INGAME maybe. Not competitive

4. Tell me how you do that. I will switch to Aggron when you fly.

 

[Pokedragonfire]

but then in 2vs2 there are better strategies... like ghost/protect+explosion, skill swapping, healing each other by abusing absorbs and etc...

The only reason why you should use fly is perhaps to stall while doing damage I suppose... but then I can't think of any good flyers that can stall like that =/

I'm sure there is some great combo...
Aha! What about using a double intimadate with salamence, having salamence fly and then use explosion.
._. Yes I know it sucked, but then it would turn fly into a (kinda)one turn attack, I guess since you have hidden power for 70 damage, it might be only good for in-game. You can always use protect, but fly is multiple turns. No worrying about Fly failing next time you use it. So it might be good for multiple explosions! I wonder...can any normal type flyers use explosion? If so...
You fly, your other pokemon explodes, then send in a ghost/protect pokemon and explode your flyer. You get STAB, unlike a ghost type, which could help against steel/rock pokemon...
Don't yell at me, I know nothing =P

 

[Kairi]

Fly is horrible because it telegraphs your next move, while doing no damage on the first turn. Some things have just been debated so much elsewhere, there's no point doing it here.

Although you guys (Yes, the "smart" ones against Fly) do need to work on your manners some. You weren't flaming, but people here tend to have really weak stomachs~