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Best Physical Dragon Attack?

Alakazam17

Alakazam17

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    I put this here instead of General because I am wondering which is better competitively. ^_^

    First up, we have Dragon Claw. It has 100% accuracy, but the power of 80 isn't that great when compared to the other choices.

    Second, we have Dragon Rush. 75% Accuracy, but 100 base power. It'll hit more often than not, but I still think Dragon Claw would serve me better.

    Lastly, Outrage. It had a nice increase of power in DP, from 90 to 120. It has 100% accuracy, though you must use it 2-3 times in a row before getting confused. When considering that this will only be weakened when facing Steel-Types, plus the possibility of holding a Persim Berry, this may be the one to choose. ^_^


    Any thoughts on the matter?
     

    Live in Color

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    Hey Alakazam!

    I'd have to say Outrage. When using Safeguard and holding a Lum/Persim berry you can get at least 4 Outrages in. But if you're one who doesn't like using Safeguard, or doesn't want to waste a hold item for a berry I'd say Dragon Rush. I had a Dragonite with one and it did pretty good. It stood a chance against EV trained Pokemon when it wasn't.
     

    aragornbird

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    Dragon Claw or Outrage.

    Dragon Rush sucks. 100 power for only 75% accuracy? No way.

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    Waffle-San

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    last generation I would of said Dragon Claw, but with the power increase, I think Outrage is.
    Dragon Rush is bad news IMO, I never use moves with less than 85% accuracy, and generally I'll rarely break 95%
     

    Jim

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    My Dragonite has Outrage and a Choice Scarf. It should attack first with the Speed Evs and Choice Scarf and then when it's Outrages are up and he gets confused he gets retreated.
     

    sanjay120

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    Keep in mind that you can't switch out during Outrage. Anything with Ice Beam/Punch/Shard/Fang and good defense (or resist) can come in and set up free, then destroy you. Donphan, Empoleon, Milotic, Cresselia, Mamoswine, Metagross, Gliscor, Hippowdon, Gyarados, etc.
     

    diamondpearl876

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    Dragon Rush sucks. My Garchomp knew it for a while and it almost always missed. ;\ I go with Outrage.
     

    genus

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    There isn't a "best" physical dragon move...certain moves are better for certain scenarios, and one size does not fit all. It all depends on the scenario. See: Specmence with two special dragon moves)

    Anyways, the message has been beaten to death...but, Dragon Rush sucks.

    Your two most reliable options are Dragon Claw and Outrage.

    A fast pokemon with a choice scarf (or choice band, commence the heated arguments), high attack, and Outrage (read: Garchomp) will total nearly anything that switches in against it. Only a few pokemon will have the defenses to withstand a round or two of Outrage (the most common being Skarmory).

    Dragon Claw is better for testing the waters though, and will still nick the opponent for a decent amount of damage while allowing you to switch out at your leisure. I would say it's better for the early game, when you're unsure of what they'll have in the way of pokemon.

    In other words: feel out what your opponent has, and if they lack a viable counter with high defense, tear them down with Outrage. Otherwise, stick to dragon claw for a bit of flirting damage. Or, use a fire or ground move for mind games. Do what you are so inclined. To do.
     

    Ichida

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    Outrage. I can say from experience that it is an excellent Dragon move to use. With a high-powered sweeper, the STAB gain, and with Choice Band, you can probably sweep any non-Steel type without many problems. :D
     
    Anti

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    In those circumstances, outrage is the best hands down but dragon claw is better for many other situations like mentioned in the above post.
     
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