Best Wishes ? is a reboot

[tough]

The Best Wishes series is pretty much a reboot while not a full reboot it does count as one,it don't really matter about Ash having that stuff from the Sinnoh region in his room since they only shown the stuff he do have in his room to let people know that he been to that region before already and the Sinnoh series have nothing to do with this series,since the Unova region is a fresh rebooted start for the show.

Ash did act like he never heard of Umbreon before and even used his Unova Pokedex to get info on Umbreon which pretty much say something.

 

[Kenshin5]

Well alibababags you question was adequately answered here https://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=544853 with multiple references as to how this is a continuation of the series.

Wouldn't reboot imply that continuation would be thrown out the window? This doesn't seem to do that. And I don't see how this is much different from prior sagas. We have Ash go to the region with one pokemon like Pikachu in Hoenn. And he gets reset as well as Pikachu in wit and strength respectively. So all you have to back up that is it a Reboot is Ash maybe vaguely remember Umbreon? If this really was a reboot then wouldn't have have replaced Ash with either Hilbert or Hilda?

Too me a reboot is more like Batman Begins or The Amazing Spiderman that comes out next year. They started from the beginning and reworked the stories a bit. So if they was a reboot then too me we would be at Kanto again instead of Unova. Just cause there is more freshness with non prior pokemon outside of Pikachu and Meowth being shown doesn't mean it's a reboot like they did with the game it just means they are in a far off region and less pokemon from the other regions that migrate there. All in all this doesn't seem any more reboot like this prior series.

 

[Hikamaru]

Well alibababags you question was adequately answered here https://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=544853 with multiple references as to how this is a continuation of the series.

Wouldn't reboot imply that continuation would be thrown out the window? This doesn't seem to do that. And I don't see how this is much different from prior sagas. We have Ash go to the region with one pokemon like Pikachu in Hoenn. And he gets reset as well as Pikachu in wit and strength respectively. So all you have to back up that is it a Reboot is Ash maybe vaguely remember Umbreon? If this really was a reboot then wouldn't have have replaced Ash with either Hilbert or Hilda?

Too me a reboot is more like Batman Begins or The Amazing Spiderman that comes out next year. They started from the beginning and reworked the stories a bit. So if they was a reboot then too me we would be at Kanto again instead of Unova. Just cause there is more freshness with non prior pokemon outside of Pikachu and Meowth being shown doesn't mean it's a reboot like they did with the game it just means they are in a far off region and less pokemon from the other regions that migrate there. All in all this doesn't seem any more reboot like this prior series.

I agree with him.

If I were making this I'd make Hilda the main character, she gets a starter that stays out of its Poke Ball (I'd choose Oshawott).

 

[tough]

Well alibababags you question was adequately answered here https://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=544853 with multiple references as to how this is a continuation of the series.

Wouldn't reboot imply that continuation would be thrown out the window? This doesn't seem to do that. And I don't see how this is much different from prior sagas. We have Ash go to the region with one pokemon like Pikachu in Hoenn. And he gets reset as well as Pikachu in wit and strength respectively. So all you have to back up that is it a Reboot is Ash maybe vaguely remember Umbreon? If this really was a reboot then wouldn't have have replaced Ash with either Hilbert or Hilda?

Too me a reboot is more like Batman Begins or The Amazing Spiderman that comes out next year. They started from the beginning and reworked the stories a bit. So if they was a reboot then too me we would be at Kanto again instead of Unova. Just cause there is more freshness with non prior pokemon outside of Pikachu and Meowth being shown doesn't mean it's a reboot like they did with the game it just means they are in a far off region and less pokemon from the other regions that migrate there. All in all this doesn't seem any more reboot like this prior series.

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Ash will never be replace with Hilda or any other character for that matter,but Hoenn and Sinnoh were never reboots since those two regions have old Kanto and Johto pokemon in them,Unova region is a reboot since there are only new 5 Gen Unova pokemon,the only old Pokemon in the Unova region is Pikachu and Meowth.

Hoenn was following from the the Original series and it wasn't a reboot at all.

Sinnoh was following from the Advance series and it wasn't in anyway a reboot,it was another start all over again region just like Hoenn was.

Unova is pretty much a fresher start for the whole entire show,with there only being new Unova region Pokemon and non of the old ones.

 

[~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~]

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Ash will never be replace with Hilda or any other character for that matter,but Hoenn and Sinnoh were never reboots since those two regions have old Kanto and Johto pokemon in them,Unova region is a reboot since there are only new 5 Gen Unova pokemon,the only old Pokemon in the Unova region is Pikachu and Meowth.

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Do you have proof that Ash will never get replaced? or you the creator(s) of Pokemon?

Unova is very far from the other Pokemon regions (they stated it somewhere which I forget what episode) so it explains why there are only 5th generation Pokemon


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[tough]

Do you have proof that Ash will never get replaced? or you the creator(s) of Pokemon?

Unova is very far from the other Pokemon regions (they stated it somewhere which I forget what episode) so it explains why there are only 5th generation Pokemon


:t354:TG

Well that is your opinions,it was stated in an interveiw at pokebeach.com that Ash & Pikachu will never be replace and you can go to that site and find out for yourself,that should be enough proof for you.

Unova region being far away really doesn't have nothing to do with there only being 5th Generation Pokemon,you need to come up with much better proof then that.

 

[psyanic]

Unova region being far away really doesn't have nothing to do with there only being 5th Generation Pokemon,you need to come up with much better proof then that.

It's an acceptable explanation. It's the same thing with the games, I mean you don't see any Kanto pokemon wandering around in Unova in Black/White do you? If not, think of it like this. Australia has quite the diversity in animal species versus, let's say North America. You see similar animals, but not the exact same species.

Unova region is a reboot since there are only new 5 Gen Unova pokemon,the only old Pokemon in the Unova region is Pikachu and Meowth.

So the pokemon make it a reboot? What? The basic formula is still the same, hell even the ages are all the same. Pikachu starts out all weak, Ash is a nitwit, he's going for all the badges, etc, etc. Though, there are many changes, Team Rocket is actually competent, two new characters (hmm, just like Hoenn right?), and some other things give or take. That doesn't make it a reboot. It's still the same plot they've been using since 1999, they just made it all sparkly this season.

The term reboot, in media dealing with serial fiction, means to discard much or even all previous continuity in the series and start anew with fresh ideas.[1] Effectively, all established fictive history is declared by the writer(s) to be null and void, or at least irrelevant to the new storyline, and the series starts over as if brand-new

This kind of goes with what Kenshin said, if it's a reboot, it's got to be a completely new thing. Like a remake, just major changes.

 

[tough]

It's an acceptable explanation. It's the same thing with the games, I mean you don't see any Kanto pokemon wandering around in Unova in Black/White do you? If not, think of it like this. Australia has quite the diversity in animal species versus, let's say North America. You see similar animals, but not the exact same species.



So the pokemon make it a reboot? What? The basic formula is still the same, hell even the ages are all the same. Pikachu starts out all weak, Ash is a nitwit, he's going for all the badges, etc, etc. Though, there are many changes, Team Rocket is actually competent, two new characters (hmm, just like Hoenn right?), and some other things give or take. That doesn't make it a reboot. It's still the same plot they've been using since 1999, they just made it all sparkly this season.


This kind of goes with what Kenshin said, if it's a reboot, it's got to be a completely new thing. Like a remake, just major changes.

Well no? it isn't a full reboot but it is half a reboot the plots are a lot fresher then they were back in 1999,but i do agree the basic formula is still the same no doubt about it.

They did made Team Rocket more of a threat then ever before and Ash personality is full of life once again since he isn't bland boring anymore,Iris and Cilan are great but they need more development.

 

[zlip]

Too me it does feel like a reboot but it doesn't seem completely rebooted though. Many of the pokemon of just reskins of kanto pokemo. (Buffalant=tauros) and with Brock gone it diffently seems new. I think thats what the writers wanted people to feel like it's somewhat of a reboot even though some previous generation things probably will pop up. (Counter shield I hope)

For the Umberon thing it does seem kind of weird as an Umberon was Gary's main pokemon. Could maybe pokedexs reset after every update?

 

[sherreamethyst]

For the Umberon thing it does seem kind of weird as an Umberon was Gary's main pokemon. Could maybe pokedexs reset after every update?

In a way it is a reboot, but then again, its not. It still sorta feels like Pokemon, just with sparklier attacks and fresh Pokemon. I think they didn't want to include the old Pokemon too much because, since Pokemon is kinda coming back again, they want kids to feel like this is all brand new. I do prefer the Ash from Kanto, Johto and Hoenn more though; personality wise. I think the new Ash is a little boring, but not as boring as Sinnoh.

As for pokedex getting 'reset' after every update. Ash recieves a new Pokedex every new region, so Ash doesn't update his Pokedex. He just gets a new one. The new ones don't give information on any Pokemon until you tell it to. So that could be why Ash pulled out his Pokedex when he saw the Umbreon, as a way to see if perhaps there was new information on it and to put in the entry on his new Pokedex. His old Pokedex probably still has the old Umbreon entry though.

 

[~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~]

Well that is your opinions,it was stated in an interveiw at pokebeach.com that Ash & Pikachu will never be replace and you can go to that site and find out for yourself,that should be enough proof for you.

Unova region being far away really doesn't have nothing to do with there only being 5th Generation Pokemon,you need to come up with much better proof then that.

I got this information from here: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unova that even states that Unova is far away and the reference that Ash, his mom and professor Oak did take a plane over there.


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[tough]

I got this information from here: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unova that even states that Unova is far away and the reference that Ash, his mom and professor Oak did take a plane over there.


:t354:TG

Of course Unova is a far away region i already know that,since Ash,his Mom and Professor Oak took a plane there.

 

[~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~]

Of course Unova is a far away region i already know that,since Ash,his Mom and Professor Oak took a plane there.

Okay, if you know this information, why ask for proof on my logic when its been stated in an episode and on bulbapedia?

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[tough]

Okay, if you know this information, why ask for proof on my logic when its been stated in an episode and on bulbapedia?

:t354:TG

I guest i forgot you had that information.

 

[Kenshin5]

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Ash will never be replace with Hilda or any other character for that matter,but Hoenn and Sinnoh were never reboots since those two regions have old Kanto and Johto pokemon in them,Unova region is a reboot since there are only new 5 Gen Unova pokemon,the only old Pokemon in the Unova region is Pikachu and Meowth.

Hoenn was following from the the Original series and it wasn't a reboot at all.

Sinnoh was following from the Advance series and it wasn't in anyway a reboot,it was another start all over again region just like Hoenn was.

Unova is pretty much a fresher start for the whole entire show,with there only being new Unova region Pokemon and non of the old ones.

If we are going by pretty much fresh starts then I don't see how Unova is that much more fresher then Hoenn was at the time. There is a reason why it went from the Original Series to Advance Generation cause it was a fresh start.

They changed Ash apparel, started the trend where he only tried to take Pikachu to restart his journey, broke the all three starters on his team tradition(which they redid in Unova, how original), shifted the focus to May instead of primarily on Ash(since she had reoccurring rivals in Drew and Harley which I don't remember Misty having, this also left Ash with virtually no rival until the league came around a first for that and hasn't happened since), Jessie and James let go of their go to pokemon Arbok and Weezing that they had for Two Generations, they added a fourth companion through the entirety of the journey again something that has happened prior or since.

If that isn't a fresh start then I don't know what is. And yes they still had Brock and had pokemon of prior generations appear from time to time. Still if we are saying there are degrees to reboots then this is to some extent a reboot in AG. Which imo all of the series are just continuations, but at the day it's up for the person to decide what qualities entitle something as a reboot or not.

 

[tough]

If we are going by pretty much fresh starts then I don't see how Unova is that much more fresher then Hoenn was at the time. There is a reason why it went from the Original Series to Advance Generation cause it was a fresh start.

They changed Ash apparel, started the trend where he only tried to take Pikachu to restart his journey, broke the all three starters on his team tradition(which they redid in Unova, how original), shifted the focus to May instead of primarily on Ash(since she had reoccurring rivals in Drew and Harley which I don't remember Misty having, this also left Ash with virtually no rival until the league came around a first for that and hasn't happened since), Jessie and James let go of their go to pokemon Arbok and Weezing that they had for Two Generations, they added a fourth companion through the entirety of the journey again something that has happened prior or since.

If that isn't a fresh start then I don't know what is. And yes they still had Brock and had pokemon of prior generations appear from time to time. Still if we are saying there are degrees to reboots then this is to some extent a reboot in AG. Which imo all of the series are just continuations, but at the day it's up for the person to decide what qualities entitle something as a reboot or not.

AG saga was never a reboot it was a fresh start,even though a lot of things change with the Hoenn series does not make it a reboot in anyway.

Ash took a vacation to the Unova region he didn't start out in this region like he did with the Hoenn and the Sinnoh regions,they also gave him three of the Unova starters which is a trend that was broken back in the Hoenn series,Unova is pretty much a whole new entire fresher start for the show unlike the AG and DP series was.

 

[Videreludus]

To be a reboot, everything that happened before must be completly forgotten and must have never happened.

It doesn't cares if there are no Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, or Sinnoh Pokémon. The characters are the same and their past is the same.

Best Whises is only a fresh start like the Advance series where nothing more.

An example for what a reboot is, is Digimon. While Digimon Adventures 02 was a direct continuity of Digimon Adventures Digimon Tamers and beyound are real reboots because everything from the past are forgotten.

 

[tough]

To be a reboot, everything that happened before must be completly forgotten and must have never happened.

It doesn't cares if there are no Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, or Sinnoh Pokémon. The characters are the same and their past is the same.

Best Whises is only a fresh start like the Advance series where nothing more.

An example for what a reboot is, is Digimon. While Digimon Adventures 02 was a direct continuity of Digimon Adventures Digimon Tamers and beyound are real reboots because everything from the past are forgotten.

The Best Wishes is only half of a reboot not a full one,but it is more of a fresher start then the Advance series ever was to start with.

The characters are not the same as before because Team Rocket had their personality revamp and they are now more of a serious threat then ever before,Ash have been redesign with a more to modern updated look then he ever did have,the Pokemon attacks have also been revamp too look more realistic then ever,the entire show have been revamp.

 

[Videreludus]

Revamps always existed in the show, you can change your personality, but your past doesn't change.

There is no half reboot. Or it is a reboot or not. Best Whises continues where the Diamond and Pear series ended.

 

[tough]

Revamps always existed in the show, you can change your personality, but your past doesn't change.

There is no half reboot. Or it is a reboot or not. Best Whises continues where the Diamond and Pear series ended.

The Advance Generation series and the Diamond and Pearl series didn't revamp the show in anyway since both of them had the same animation style.

The Best Wishes series does not continues were the Diamond and Pearl series ended at,the Best wishes series isn't at all related to the Diamond and Pearl series,besides the fact the Diamond and Pearl series is gone forever done with.