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5th Gen Beyond Arceus

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The S

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    Okay, here's a bit of a logic flub in the games as I see it.

    Each game has had increasingly powerful Legends. Elemental representatives gave way to personification of the earth, sea, and sky, and then to anthropomorphized time, space, and dimension. This all culminated with Arceus last generation, who, for all intents and purposes, is God.

    So where do we go from here? How can Black and White have something beyond God? Will it be Chaos and Order? The Void? Will we be able to capture The Universe itself? Am I over-thinking things?
     
    Well Arceus created the universe :P
    But nothing is impossible.

    Now we can talk about life, like real life, global warming? Natural and man made disaster?
     
    Rilence said:
    Well Arceus created the universe :P
    But nothing is impossible.

    Now we can talk about life, like real life, global warming? Natural and man made disaster?
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    Lol we already had Global warming, remember Groudon and Kyogre :P?
     
    The way I see it, Arcues created Sinnoh but not the entire universe. I mean yeah, myths say it did but myths are still myths and can be greatly exaggerated. The people who learned of Arceus may have thought that Sinnoh was the entire world back then. So they still have plenty of options for legendaries.
     
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    Silver25 said:
    The way I see it, Arcues created Sinnoh but not the entire universe. So they still have plenty of options for legendaries.
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    Well the Sinnohians believe that Arceus created the Universe according to the Pokedex and as we all know all the myths in Pokemon are real...
     
    Whether or not Arceus created the world is out of the question. If it's just a myth, then he's just another Pokemon, subject to the same fate as every Pokemon. If he indeed did create the world, there's nothing saying that he still has dominion over it. With Zekrom and Reshiram, we've gotten Pokemon which don't just create / destroy, but rather affect the development of the world, whether into technological or natural spheres.

    tl;dr -- Arceus = birth, Zekrom + Reshiram = development
     
    Rilence said:
    Well Arceus created the universe :P
    But nothing is impossible.
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    Good point. But I imagine being able to capture all of existence in a Pokéball would be a logical step.
     
    Silver25 said:
    Not trying to start something but how do we know ALL of the myths are real? We know the legendaries are real but what else do we know? (just for clarification)
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    Well Groudon and Kyogre creating the Land and the Sea is real according to RSE that is one of the real myths, I think all the others are real too but who knows...
     
    Well I think Arceus did just create sinnoh... and as for the Pokedex entry, aren't these written by MAN? It's not like the Pokemon said it.
     
    Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:

    Well Groudon and Kyogre creating the Land and the Sea is real according to RSE that is one of the real myths, I think all the others are real too but who knows...
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    Well then Arceus didn't create the 'Universe' because the land and sea was created by Groundon and Kyogre... I'm going to assume the myths hold reality but are greatly exaggerated
     
    The S said:
    The Void? Will we be able to capture The Universe itself? Am I over-thinking things?
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    Can somebody say Darkrai&Arceus?
     
    Nothing is going to be bigger then Arceus, Mew was supposed to be on top, but then Arceus took its place.
     
    Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:

    Well Groudon and Kyogre creating the Land and the Sea is real according to RSE that is one of the real myths, I think all the others are real too but who knows...
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    Well we know that for Hoenn, but not for sure regarding Kanto, Johto, Orange Islands, Sinnoh, etc...

    My thoughts on the whole "legendary created this" factor is that the legends hold true for the respective regions, but we don't know for sure regarding the other regions and the entire Pokemon world.


    Charizard★ said:
    Nothing is going to be bigger then Arceus, Mew was supposed to be on top, but then Arceus took its place.
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    Well Mew is only the ancestor of all Pokemon, it was never a god or anything like that (although many believed it at first).so it wasn't very hard to top it in that sense. But IF in fact Arceus did create the entire world, like a previous post said there are still options like "legendary Pokemon keeping the balance" and stuff like that. There could be something bigger than Arceus (which I really do hop for because personally I don't like Arceus' design at all).
     
    Charizard★ said:
    Nothing is going to be bigger then Arceus, Mew was supposed to be on top, but then Arceus took its place.
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    Yeah, though it was easier for someone to think up something more powerful than Mew...

    Silver25 said:
    Well we know that for Hoenn, but not for sure regarding Kanto, Johto, Orange Islands, Sinnoh, etc...

    My thoughts on the whole "legendary created this" factor is that the legends hold true for the respective regions, but we don't know for sure regarding the other regions and the entire Pokemon world.
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    They don't only mentioned that G and K created Hoenn but the whole landmass and sea/oceans of the world...So I see the same for Arceus
    Johto's myths were all real as they were mostly about the existence of the legendary pokemon rather than what created what :), Kanto didn't really have any myths, just three very powerful birds, the only myth was Mew and that was considered an Urban or new myth...
     
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    Arceus as God is just a Sinnoh myth. He's powerful, of course, but a god? Obviously, that's just a legend.
     
    Silver25 said:
    Well Mew is only the ancestor of all Pokemon, it was never a god or anything like that (although many believed it at first).so it wasn't very hard to top it in that sense. But IF in fact Arceus did create the entire world, like a previous post said there are still options like "legendary Pokemon keeping the balance" and stuff like that. There could be something bigger than Arceus (which I really do hop for because personally I don't like Arceus' design at all).
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    If there is something bigger, it'll just be plain dumb. I mean Arceus created the Universe. :/
     
    Charizard★ said:
    If there is something bigger, it'll just be plain dumb. I mean Arceus created the Universe. :/
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    Unless pokemon goes for the Multiverse and has a pokemon that created the chaos that was used to create the multiple Universes :/?
     
    lol, people are squabbling whether Arceus is ultimately God, if He created the universe or not...

    It's just like real life.

    (which I really do hop for because personally I don't like Arceus' design at all).
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    Aw, I find that kind of sad. I think it's cool because he's based on the qilin.

    Also: Just because I thought it fit into this topic for some reason:

     
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