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5th Gen Black and White - New Natures!

Numbers

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    I was just wondering do you think they will add in new natures to Black and White? I bring this up because I thought of one. The nature would be called 'Reckless' and it would greatly increase attack but also greatly decrease defence as opposed to just increasing and decreasing slightly like adamant.
    What do you think? Also if you think it's a good idea you could give some examples.
     
    Reminds me of vegeta :p. I think that'd be a good idea but it might make it more annoying to breed if they introduce 5/6 more natures and you dont have an everstone. Other than that no problem imo. How about cautious raises defense but lowers speed.Although that'd be the same as relaxed which is the opposite :s. Maybe the other way around?
     
    Numbers said:
    I was just wondering do you think they will add in new natures to Black and White? I bring this up because I thought of one. The nature would be called 'Reckless' and it would greatly increase attack but also greatly decrease defence as opposed to just increasing and decreasing slightly like adamant.
    What do you think? Also if you think it's a good idea you could give some examples.
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    That nature does sound like Vegeta :D
    anyway that nature is a good idea to me.
    but I think they will add like 2 or 1 new natures if were lucky.
     
    Numbers said:
    I was just wondering do you think they will add in new natures to Black and White? I bring this up because I thought of one. The nature would be called 'Reckless' and it would greatly increase attack but also greatly decrease defence as opposed to just increasing and decreasing slightly like adamant.
    What do you think? Also if you think it's a good idea you could give some examples.
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    The problem of this is that it greatly decreases the point of using attack increasing moves such as Swords Dance. If this nature was available, too many people would resort to using it and I think it'll make the game a bit easier and less fun. D:
     
    I'd be a little annoyed if my starting pokemon couldn't compete well in the beginning of the game because it had a drastically lowered attack. I know I could just start again, but I'd be bothered because I was sort of forced to do that. Having to start over because of a noticeable disadvantage would take some of the fun out of it.
     
    it'd be cool if they made new natures to evolve pokemon to keep canon as in get a reckless eevee to lvl xx to make fighteon or wtv.
     
    Scarf said:
    I'd be a little annoyed if my starting pokemon couldn't compete well in the beginning of the game because it had a drastically lowered attack. I know I could just start again, but I'd be bothered because I was sort of forced to do that. Having to start over because of a noticeable disadvantage would take some of the fun out of it.
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    I agree here. Also, I think that there is already enough natures in the games.
     
    shot571 said:
    Reminds me of vegeta :p. I think that'd be a good idea but it might make it more annoying to breed if they introduce 5/6 more natures and you dont have an everstone. Other than that no problem imo. How about cautious raises defense but lowers speed.Although that'd be the same as relaxed which is the opposite :s. Maybe the other way around?
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    I never even thought of Vegeta when writing this, good observation :P I agree though, it would be a little more complicated if they added more in.

    Serene Grace said:

    The problem of this is that it greatly decreases the point of using attack increasing moves such as Swords Dance. If this nature was available, too many people would resort to using it and I think it'll make the game a bit easier and less fun. D:
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    I agree with this also, although along with the greater increase in attack comes greater decrease in defence which kind of balances it out, you get a fast move in first to someone with this nature, that spells trouble. Also when I say a great increase I mean like how adamant raises it 10%, reckless could raise it 20% so it's not so bad that it's broken, like say... +50% would be.

    Scarf said:
    I'd be a little annoyed if my starting pokemon couldn't compete well in the beginning of the game because it had a drastically lowered attack. I know I could just start again, but I'd be bothered because I was sort of forced to do that. Having to start over because of a noticeable disadvantage would take some of the fun out of it.
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    Sure this idea has flaws, It was just something I thought up on the spot and wanted to get other peoples opinions. Maybe perhaps if they introduced these new natures but the only way to get them would be through breeding (So that it's more for the competitive battlers?) that way you couldn't get these types of natures at the start. Do you think that makes it any more appealing?
     
    Instead of making more natures, I think they need to make the existing natures more noticeable. If you noticed in the battle that they showed how the pokemon were moving around and stuff, well maybe if there is an overhauled battling system natures (with other things such as badges of course) could determine how your pokemon behaves in battle.
     
    Yh i think maybe if they hold a certain item 25% chance of getting that nature.The movement one is a good idea but it would be complicted. Took'em long enough to make them have any kind of movement.
     
    It wouldn't work out too well.

    Suppose you have a Pokemon with a moveset composed of only Physical moves. If you had the option to use the Adamant nature or a new nature that "greatly" increases attack and "greatly" lowers special attack, which would you choose?
     
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    rocky505 said:
    I've always wanted HP raising and lowering natures.
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    My thoughts exactly! I always wondered why the developers didn't use that stat in reference to natures altering it... Then again, it seems weird that your personality/nature determines how much energy you have left to fight... :\ Still, I think it would be an interesting implementation... :D
     
    rocky505 said:
    I've always wanted HP raising and lowering natures.
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    Maybe we don't have it b/c they thought it would make some pokemon too strong (if HP was raised) or make some weak..if not already weak. Good idea though.
     
    There are no HP-upping natures because, if there were, Blissey would be able to top 800 HP.

    Not happening.
     
    Ninja Caterpie said:
    There are no HP-upping natures because, if there were, Blissey would be able to top 800 HP.

    Not happening.
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    like it is that hard to KO a Blissey. There are Pokemon that can stall it with toxic,mean look, taunt so it wouldnt be too hard.
     
    Numbers said:
    I was just wondering do you think they will add in new natures to Black and White? I bring this up because I thought of one. The nature would be called 'Reckless' and it would greatly increase attack but also greatly decrease defence as opposed to just increasing and decreasing slightly like adamant.
    What do you think? Also if you think it's a good idea you could give some examples.
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    if they add natures, they will probably add ones that pertain to HP, seeing as that's the only stat that hasnt been touched yet

    and reckless sounds like an awesome ability. you could also call it proud or arrogant. (now that reallly sounds like Vegeta) :D there could be one called cautious or reserved, that greatly boost defense/Sp. def

    Ninja Caterpie said:
    There are no HP-upping natures because, if there were, Blissey would be able to top 800 HP.

    Not happening.
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    why not? plenty of other pokemon already get HUGE stat increases from the other natures. An adamant natured marowak with the thick club has an attack stat of 568, not counting stat modifiers. higher than attack form deoxys. after a swords dance that doubles. medicham with pure power is in the same ball park.

    HP + natures would really help lots of pokemon in the metagame, and it would change a lot of things around in Ubers, OU and UU. thankfully.

    from bulbapedia:
    "If a level 100 Shuckle uses Power Trick, and is then skill swapped with Pure Power or Huge Power, it would obtain a maximum attack stat of 1228"

    blissey isnt that hard to kill really , if you attack smart. blissey, meet my machamp and 100% accuracy, base 100 STAB Dynamic punch. :D
     
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    Live_Wire466 said:
    blissey isnt that hard to kill really , if you attack smart. blissey, meet my machamp and 100% accuracy, base 100 STAB Dynamic punch. :D
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    Machamp, meet my Rotom Heat's delicious immunity and Will-o-Wisp.

    There's a reason the other Pokémon you mentioned are in UU rather than OU with their massive attacks - they also have very easily exploitable weaknesses. Marowak's defenses and speed are rather sub-par, so KOing it while it's Swords Dancing is easy. Shuckle is slow as, and its attack stats are horrible, meaning that a single attack after the Power Trick means KO.

    Blissey, however, becomes the ultimate wall, tanking almost all unSTAB'd Physical Fightings and even most STAB'd ones. It actually has a chance of surviving your Machamp's Dynamicpunch if it gets a HP nature (as most standard 'champs don't run attack-boosters unless it's a Band).
     
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    Yeah but dont forget that a pokemon can only have 1 nature so a HP+ blissey will not have Bold as it's nature so physical moves would hurt it even more.
     
    Wouldn't a Shedinja with a -HP nature just die at the start of the battle?
     
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