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4th Gen Breeding Debate
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Cloning is not legit. But cloned Pokémon are legit. I don't know if you got that, but the answer is that the baby will be legit, but the fact that you clone will be unfair.
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^We allow cloning here, just for your information.
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I don't mean here, but in general. Well, everyone does it anyway.
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I don't.
The child would be legit, no matter what the parents were. Unless, of course, it had some crazy Egg Move combination because of the parent...
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Can you get illegal egg moves through cheating?
If so, I don't think the child would learn them, because the regular game rules would probably apply.
Can you get illegal egg moves through cheating?
If so, I don't think the child would learn them, because the regular game rules would probably apply.
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(you really want that Mew, don't you?)
No, I said an impossible combination. Like Drill Peck & Whirlwind.
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Just because you think cloning is not legit, doesn't mean that the other 7 billion people in the world does... D:
What I think is that... The baby would be legit since it was obtained the right way. Breeding two hacked Blastoises to get a Squirtle is better than catching the Squirtle in the grass. Some people don't have females/the right parents so they hack the parents. And if you want to say keep your Infernape at 60, then you clone it to breed 20 babies and you'll have a level 60 one and some level 63~ one. So I think the baby is legit if the parents are cloned or hacked even if it's a good reason. Now if you're hacking the parents to get perfect IVs/illegal egg moves combinations, then the baby is illegit. But that's what I think what what. 8D
Edit: It's Drill Peck and Whirlwind. Roar is a TM so you can teach that anytime.
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It was Whirlwind. Though I wonder if that's still true this generation...whatever.
The legitimacy of cloning itself would be the big debate, but seeing as most people justify it by cloning legit Pokémon, cloning has been deemed legit. I dunno, I don't do it myself...I'd rather the things I own and trade be one-of-a-kind. x_x
Edit: Oh shoot, beat me to it. XD
Edit2: Forgot to add that cloning legitimacy also comes from how it was designed into the game, though such a back-up saving method wasn't intended to help gain Pokémon. Rather help prevent losing. So yea...I don't see it as legitimate, but people tend to go with popular opinion.
The legitimacy of cloning itself would be the big debate, but seeing as most people justify it by cloning legit Pokémon, cloning has been deemed legit. I dunno, I don't do it myself...I'd rather the things I own and trade be one-of-a-kind. x_x
Edit: Oh shoot, beat me to it. XD
Edit2: Forgot to add that cloning legitimacy also comes from how it was designed into the game, though such a back-up saving method wasn't intended to help gain Pokémon. Rather help prevent losing. So yea...I don't see it as legitimate, but people tend to go with popular opinion.
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Rules are rules, eh?
And, oh. I see. Then the baby, as I see it, would probably still not be legit. It would have moves that are impossible under normal game rules. That's what makes things interesting - having to chose one move over the other.
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Just to be the devil's advocate for a moment:
Cloning is illegitimate in that it is not one of the methods to get a Pokemon as defined by Nintendo & Gamefreak. That is politically correct, and something that I doubt those 7 billion people would have an easy time arguing.
^That's not exactly my belief, though.
Ah, right. Thanks for that. I realized that Roar was a TM, so that couldn't be it...I've just never tried to raise a SpikeSkarm for myself. *post edited*
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"And if you want to say keep your Infernape at 60, then you clone it to breed 20 babies and you'll have a level 60 one and some level 63~ one. So I think the baby is legit if the parents are cloned or hacked even if it's a good reason."
Good reasons aren't good? T-T Well, yeah of course Nintendo and Game Freak aren't happy since they loose money since not as many people have to go to events since they can get a clone from their friend. xD And no, that's not a proper way either since you aren't supposed to get pokemon that way but they're just scraps of data and you should be able to clone data like make copies of a word document... I think cloning to have multiple pokemon and trading them off isn't legit. It's unfair to trade your army of clones for people's uncloned pokemon since you gain and they don't and that's not a "trade" now is it... I'm more of the "clone pokemon and give them away so everyone can have whatever they dreamed of since Nintendo does those losey events in a few popular places and kids have nightmares cause they can't get the Mew they wanted since Red/Blue" kinda girl. So cloning is good for those who can't attend events. I was sad without a Jirachi, Manaphy, Celebi since I didn't get those event pokemon and even some of my dream shinies like Latias and Cresselia but I got them through cloning so I iz one happy camper.
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Like I said, that wasn't necessarily my thoughts on cloning. I just wanted to bring up that point, since, you have to admit, it's pretty hard to disprove. We don't have to agree with it, but still, it's true.
I'm actually in your corner for the most part, except for the part that I highlighted. While I agree with the idea of spreading aroung event Pokemon to those that couldn't get them in the first place, I also think there's a balance. If you clone & spread the Pokemon too much, then it'll not only lose some of its value (going back to that debate on cloning Shinies from a long time ago), but it'll also take away trading opportunities from others who didn't clone it as much, especially those on this forum (yeah, like I don't know a lot about that >.>). Of course, some of this is kind of solved with the very GTS that gives the ability to clone, but there still has to be a limit.
...Wow. This thread has gone WAAY off-topic...
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That combination is no longer impossible to pull off. This generation has allowed you to breed Whirlwind from a Pidgey onto a Spearow who can level up and learn Drill Peck who can in turn breed with a female Skarmory to pass on Whirlwind and Drill Peck.
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why did you post? can't you make a topic cuz this realy dosn't belonge to this thread
oh and you must breed sudowoodo with a rock insance(ps?) to get an egg with a bosly in it