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Death Note scare at Gig Harbor middle school

Jaimes said:
As entertaining as the franchise is, I personally reckon that someone making their own Death Note to express their anger and hatred on other people, is not only deluded, but also psychopathic.
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Who cares? Expressing your anger in a non-violent way such as using a fake Death Note which will do practically nothing is better than keeping it bundled up, having it pile up over time and then eventually unleashing it in a sudden, dreadfully violent manner...
 
There are more harmless things to release anger, if you're that unstable. Keeping a journal or seeing a counselor come to mind. There's always that chance that making a faux hit-list will intensify one's feelings of hatred, and, subsequently, cause them to act on those feelings.
 
Trainer Kat said:
There are more harmless things to release anger, if you're that unstable. Keeping a journal or seeing a counselor come to mind. There's always that chance that making a faux hit-list will intensify one's feelings of hatred, and, subsequently, cause them to act on those feelings.
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True... but one method of releasing anger does not work for all...

BTW I am not unstable... I never made a Death Note and don't plan on making one anytime soon... I just curse behind the backs of those who I despise to release my anger...
 
Espreon said:
Who cares? Expressing your anger in a non-violent way such as using a fake Death Note which will do practically nothing is better than keeping it bundled up, having it pile up over time and then eventually unleashing it in a sudden, dreadfully violent manner...
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Erm. I couldn't disagree with you more :|

How many people do you think, create a Death Note with the intention of using it to entertain their notions of killing their peers share it?
The number I assume is minimal and almost no different from keeping any feelings 'bundled up'. Like a diary, a hard copy of your thoughts and negative emotions will also affect the individuals ability to forget and move on with their life.

Also if it is read by someone with a bit more common sense (e.g a teacher/guardian), then it simply reveals a disturbing personality. E.g I would think that if you found your younger sibling made a list of how s/he would graphically have a classmate killed, you would probably be worried about their state of mind.

An obsession with murder - even if it is just thoughts, can develop into more sociopathic attitudes in later life, which obviously can be unleashed onto individuals - Cho Seng Hui makes a good example of this.

There are better ways to get help.
 
Espreon said:
Who cares? Expressing your anger in a non-violent way such as using a fake Death Note which will do practically nothing is better than keeping it bundled up, having it pile up over time and then eventually unleashing it in a sudden, dreadfully violent manner...
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I think that was very well said. Someone mentioned Columbine... wouldn't it have been better if they had gotten their anger out with something like a Death Note rather than actually killing people? I think so.
 
Jaimes said:
Erm. I couldn't disagree with you more :|

How many people do you think, create a Death Note with the intention of using it to entertain their notions of killing their peers share it?
The number I assume is minimal and almost no different from keeping any feelings 'bundled up'.
Like a diary, a hard copy of your thoughts and negative emotions will also affect the individuals ability to forget and move on with their life.

Also if it is read by someone with a bit more common sense, then it simply reveals a disturbing personality. E.g I would think that if you found your younger sibling made a list of how s/he would graphically have a classmate killed, you would probably be worried about their state of mind.

An obsession with murder - even if it is just thoughts can develop into more sociopathic attitudes which can be unleashed onto individuals - Cho Seng Hui makes a good example of this.

There are better ways to get help.
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-Well I wouldn't know anything about diaries and what not for two valid reasons:

-Esp is not omniscient
-I never really liked diaries, thus I never really used them...

Also not everyone carries grudges...

-Maybe I would or maybe I wouldn't... I wouldn't tell anyone about it... For very obvious reasons...

-Really?!? I beg to differ... I am slightly obsess'd with death and whatnot, and I am not sadistic or a psychopath or whatever you wanna call it... And who is this Cho Seng Hui of whom you speaketh of?
 
Espreon said:
True... but one method of releasing anger does not work for all...

BTW I am not unstable... I never made a Death Note and don't plan on making one anytime soon... I just curse behind the backs of those who I despise to release my anger...
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Oh, no, no. I don't think you're unstable at all. I was using the word 'you' as a general term. I wasn't directing that at you, I promise.

Jaimes said:
Also if it is read by someone with a bit more common sense (e.g a teacher/guardian), then it simply reveals a disturbing personality. E.g I would think that if you found your younger sibling made a list of how s/he would graphically have a classmate killed, you would probably be worried about their state of mind.
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=]]
That's exactly the point I was trying to make earlier, and I couldn't have said it better myself.

I mean, honestly, I highly doubt many adults are familiar with Death Note, and if YOU opened a notebook and saw something along the lines of
"Jane Doe - Gets shot"
Wouldn't you be a little concerned?
 
Espreon said:
-Maybe I would or maybe I wouldn't... I wouldn't tell anyone about it... For very obvious reasons...
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If you don't tell anyone about it, then obviously, it is no different to keeping it bottled up.

If your unfamiliar with diaries, because a memory is transferred onto paper, the memories are easily recalled when read over even years later. If you have a list of people you hate, a brief recognition can easily remind you of past difficulties.
This makes something written harder to forget if re-read.

Espreon said:
-Really?!? I beg to differ... I am slightly obsess'd with death and whatnot, and I am not sadistic or a psychopath or whatever you wanna call it... And who is this Cho Seng Hui of whom you speaketh of?
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While obviously it does not apply to every 'death-obsessed' person on the planet, fascinations can be associated with a sadistic personality disorder and aggressive behaviour.

For the Cho guy... OMG Do you not read the news?!? :/
 
Jaimes said:
If you don't tell anyone about it, then obviously, it is no different to keeping it bottled up.
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-No, I am talking about the sibling/friend scenario... In my mind having someone sent to a mental hospital is the equivalent of murder, except the effects are long-term and much more sublime...

For the Cho guy... OMG Do you not read the news?!? :/
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No, not really... Nor do I watch the news... But I listen to the news... Nonetheless, who is he?
 
Espreon said:
-No, I am talking about the sibling/friend scenario... In my mind having someone sent to a mental hospital is the equivalent of murder, except the effects are long-term and much more sublime...
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Regardless, even if you knew someone made a detailed list of people he would want dead and how, then it's not exactly a normal, reasonable or rational achievement that can be easily ignored.
No, not really... Nor do I watch the news... But I listen to the news... Nonetheless, who is he?
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Evidently you don't listen very well. =P
Google is your friend Just click the link...
 
some people make fake death notes for some laughs but teachers and them take the death note as serious business like it's gonna happen, just proves how stupid most of the world is
 
My opinion is that the teachers and officials are overreacting, but not to an enormous amount. Some kids just are not fond of other students at the school, and that is perfectly normal. Kids can be often curious and highly interested in something they view or watch, even if the content isn't true. The Death Note book was just to express whom they dislike at the school. Kids may mimic the actions performed on TV, especially the ones who are quite introverted. The hatred was given out in an indirect way, and no one had been harmed physically. Adults aren't very familiar with Death Note, and are just concerned from what they see before they have opened their eyes to what really lies within the Japanese series.
Authorities say the book also contained the name of a teacher and celebrities such as President George W. Bush and Paris Hilton.
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The above quote slightly proves how exaggurated the listings in the book were.

Cho Seung Hui was the killer of the students at Virginia Tech.

Edit: In relation to Pokemon, there have been shootings by Pokemon fans that occurred shortly after an episode that featured Dragonair and Ash holding a gun. This tells us that kids love to mimic what they see on TV, but it also shows us how dangerous that a Television Show can effect kids.
 
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well, it all depends. What did it say and stuff like that. We get bomb threats all the time at my school, surprisingly, none this year and i'm in middle school and some kid set fire to a trash can and no one evacuated the school. and some girl got sent to Mulberry(it's like a juvy school or something) and she almost killed a teacher and no one knows what happened to her
 
Nozomi said:
I think they're overreacting >_>

The kids are just making Death Notes because they like the series. My friend has a Death Note, and she writes in it for fun. She doesn't really believe that they're going to die. And, they haven't died. It's all in good fun, sheesh...
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I don't find any grace on making hateful death notes like those as harmless as they might be. I just don't think writing the way you want people to die is any "good" fun.
 
The very idea of making a hit list in any form or fashion just is plain wrong. Weather or not it was just a "playful imitation" of a manga, which is a little weird in it's own, it's just not something a normal member of a society should do. And I know, screw conformity right? But it's of those things that you just don't do, and the punishment they got for willingly did is completely and totally deserved.
 
my friend got a weird text that said if you don't foward this to 7 people including the person who sent it to you, so and so will come and haunt you in your sleep and that freaked her out! so she just sent it to random people
 
tbh, I could argue this either way. First off I'll say the school wasn't overreacting, because it's a judgement error on the students part, cause if they can't understand the difference between anime and real life they need some help. Second, if you do just have a death note for fun, then you're probably mature enough to understand the difference between anime and real life and you're not going bring the death note to school.
 
I find this whole situation a perfect example of the moral degeneration in today's society. Television and Movies have made it so Murder isn't that bad of a thing.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the risk to using a Death Note is this.
If someone that you actually wanted to die actually dies, you'll be suspect number one if the police or an investigator gets ahold of your Death Note. Even if they don't have physical evidence pointing at you as the perpetrator, they can still claim premeditated murder.
It's better to simply not use a Death Note, the risks completely outweigh a little time of "fun".
In conclusion, its irresponsible and immoral, and you should be punished for making one.
 
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