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Defensive Team

Unlimited NiGHTS

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    I give credit to Anti-Pop for helping me make this team. However, I'm still not certain if it's good enough to go for.

    Swampert @ Leftovers; Torrent
    Relaxed; 240 HP, 216 Defense, 52 Special Attack
    Hydro Pump
    Earthquake
    Ice Beam
    Roar

    Registeel @ Leftovers; Clear Body
    Relaxed; 252 HP, 56 Defense, 200 Special Defense
    Hammer Arm
    Explosion
    Stealth Rock
    Toxic

    Articuno @ Leftovers; Pressure
    Calm; 252 HP, 96 Defense, 160 Special Defense
    Ice Beam
    Roost
    Reflect
    Heal Bell

    Salamence @ Choice Band; Intimidate
    Adamant; 4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
    Dragon Claw
    Earthquake
    Flamethrower
    Stone Edge

    Tentacruel @ Leftovers; Liquid Ooze
    Calm; 204 HP, 172 Special Defense, 96 Special Attack, 36 Speed
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Rapid Spin
    Toxic Spikes

    Gliscor @ Leftovers; Sand Veil
    Impish; 252 HP, 4 Attack, 252 Defense
    Earthquake
    Aerial Ace
    Knock Off
    Roost
     
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    Unlimited NiGHTS said:
    I give credit to Anti-Pop for helping me make this team. However, I'm still not certain if it's good enough to go for.

    Swampert @ Leftovers; Torrent
    Relaxed; 240 HP, 216 Defense, 52 Special Attack
    Surf
    Earthquake
    Ice Beam
    Roar

    Registeel SRs fine so Roar would be preferred.

    Registeel @ Leftovers; Clear Body
    Relaxed; 252 HP, 56 Defense, 200 Special Defense
    Stealth Rock
    Hammer Arm
    Toxic
    Explosion

    Attacking with Registeel is a bad idea. You could still use EQ over hammer arm but you have a problem with Porygon-Z.

    Articuno @ Leftovers; Pressure
    Calm; 252 HP / 96 Def / 160 SDef
    Ice Beam
    Roost
    Reflect
    Heal Bell

    With Swameprt to PHaze, Articuno will be able to use Reflect.

    Salamence @ Choice Band; Intimidate
    Adamant; 4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
    Dragon Claw
    Earthquake
    Fire Fang / Flamethrower
    Stone Edge

    If you really fear Skarmory then go ahead, but even then Stone Edging it is fun and there's a good chance of a crit.

    Starmie @ Leftovers; Natural Cure
    Timid; 172 HP, 120 Special Attack, 216 Speed
    Surf
    Thunderbolt
    Rapid Spin
    Recover

    Due to the fact that Gyarados massacres your team, go go go Thunderbolt!

    Gliscor @ Leftovers; Sand Veil
    Impish; 252 HP, 4 Attack, 252 Defense
    Earthquake
    Aerial Ace / Ice Fang
    Knock Off
    Roost

    fine.
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    It's actually pretty good. you can tell I like this due to Articuno and Registeel being here ^_^

    It's actually pretty solid. Swampert is a bit annoying though.
     
    Thanks, Anti-Pop! I was hoping you'd post here.

    All fixes made.
     
    Just so you know Smogon's Articuno EVs aren't really that good. It needs special defense...

    Watch out for subseeders and crap.
     
    Unlimited NiGHTS said:
    Articuno @ Leftovers; Pressure
    Calm; 252 HP, 76 Defense, 64 Special Attack, 120 Special Defense
    Ice Beam
    Roost
    Reflect
    Heal Bell
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    Will that work, Anti-Pop?
     
    Just use 252 HP / 96 Def / 160 SDef with Calm. Articuno doesn't even need SAtk.
     
    All right, done. Thanks, Anti-Pop!
     
    SD Weavile is a pest, but I suppose Registeel can take Brick Break and fire back Hammer Arm.
     
    I hope so. What would you recommend if not?
     
    Well that's going to have to do, just pray Brick Break doesn't score a critical hit...or that it doesn't have a Focus Sash (though Articuno can finish it)
     
    All right.

    Any other comments?
     
    If 'Vire gets a Motor Drive in and Swampy dies, then your only hope will be for Registeel to blow up, and blowing up isn't something that your Registeel, who provides plenty of support, is gonna wanna do.
     
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    *Nightfall* said:
    If 'Vire gets a Motor Drive in and Swampy dies, then your only hope will be for Registeel to blow up, and blowing up isn't something that your Registeel, who provides plenty of support, is gonna wanna do.
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    How would you solve this problem?
     
    No Yache Berry on Gliscor, it needs Leftovers recovery.

    Swampert is a good enough counter for Vire, and if it has HP Grass it probably lacks Ice Punch which means Gliscor can take it.
     
    Oh. Okay then.

    Anything else?
     
    To reply to Anti-Pop....

    *Nightfall* said:
    If 'Vire gets a Motor Drive in and Swampy dies, then your only hope will be for Registeel to blow up, and blowing up isn't something that your Registeel, who provides plenty of support, is gonna wanna do.
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    I specifically said THAT.

    And BTW, just because a team has ONE Pokemon that doesn't die instantly to a threat doesn't make that team GOOD against it.
     
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    I think Anti-Pop's point was that either Swampert or Gliscor can handle Electivire, depending on whether it has Hidden Power or Ice Punch. So, if Electivire has Ice Punch, I counter with Swampert. If Electivire has Hidden Power, I counter with Gliscor. Most likely, Electivire won't have both.
     
    Unlimited NiGHTS said:
    I think Anti-Pop's point was that either Swampert or Gliscor can handle Electivire, depending on whether it has Hidden Power or Ice Punch. So, if Electivire has Ice Punch, I counter with Swampert. If Electivire has Hidden Power, I counter with Gliscor. Most likely, Electivire won't have both.
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    I never said 'Vire would be the one killing Swampy. Some other Poke would.

    And if a 'Vire has HP Grass, then that means it's Special orientated, and Gliscor dies to Special moves anyway.
     
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