2nd Gen Didn't know that...

[Sydian]

So, the other day, I found out that you can rematch Red in GSC. You just have to beat the Elite Four and he reappears. I can't believe it's 2016 and I just now found this out...haha...throw me away. Is there anything about these games that you recently found out, or just found out way past the games' prime? Please don't tell me I'm the only one.

 

[Imperator161]

Nothing that I recently learned about GSC is jumping to mind, though in conjunction with my VC playthrough of RBY, I learned that you couldn't actually encounter Pokemon in all of the squares in Viridian Forest, hence the seemingly highly variable encounter rate there depending on what path you take.

Something that I just realized I've never figured out in GSC is how the mystery gift you receive is determined (when you do mystery gift). I know it was probably "random," but like everything else, I wouldn't be surprised if people have found the algorithm for how it works. (I also wouldn't mind knowing how to manipulate the RNG in GSC more generally, especially for breeding; aside from the Red Gyarados Ditto Mimic approach to increasing your shiny breeding rate, I have no sense of how to shift the odds in my favor.) I just tried to look up info about it, and although I didn't look for long, I didn't find any decent hits right off the bat, so I still don't know the answer.

 

[Xertified]

Alright.

TBH, I seriously didn't know in my first time playing Pokemon FireRed, I didn't know how to use the Teachy TV. Yeah, I felt dumb.

 

[Guest123_x1]

I didn't find out until reading through Bulbapedia a little while back (many years after trading in my Pokémon Game Boy Game Paks from the early generations) that the Love Ball only was effective on opposing Pokémon of the same gender, and the Moon Ball was nothing more than an overly-glorified regular Poké Ball due to glitches.

 

[TheLegendaryGuy]

Stand next to a statue and use a fishing rod. You will actually start to fish. This was what i found recently. But this is of no use as you won't be able to catch anything.

 

[Imperator161]

Stand next to a statue and use a fishing rod. You will actually start to fish. This was what i found recently. But this is of no use as you won't be able to catch anything.

I've known about the fishing-in-statues thing for a long time (I think I have a guide that mentioned it), but what I've wondered about is are there any places where they programmed it so Pokemon could appear in statues from fishing, but didn't specify which ones (kind of like the strip of land along the edge of Cinnabar and the Missingno glitch)? I'm guessing not, and I'm assuming the situation might be different for fishing than for surfing anyway, but I've never looked into it or heard anything about it.

The Moon Ball misprogramming (mentioned earlier in this thread) was something I only learned a few months ago as well.

 

[illumine]

Everyone reappears by that point. Your 'rival' practically makes inter-regional trips just to end up in similar caves.

Still, though, Clair introduces herself as the 'world's best dragon master,' categorically. Given Lance, it's not entirely clear why she would be drawn to say that. Perhaps the dragon fumes from the Dragon's Den went to her head. They do seem a bit inconsistent, generally, though. After they lose, they're not sure if they won't admit the result, whether they're just monitoring your progress in the Pokémon League for some reason - apparently beating them is no longer enough to challenge that -, or whether for some reason they want to make sure that you're a dragon trainer before moving on, because apparently only Dragon-type users are allowed to go any further. That whole section seems a bit half-hearted, and perhaps was before all of the details of Lance as Champion in the League were confirmed, etc. In addition, for some reason they became incapable of making female Gym leaders who could just give you the badge without sending you on some sort of tangential errand for it, or just crying. Seemingly the Johto League is a bit lax about everything.

 

[BettyNewbie]

Still, though, Clair introduces herself as the 'world's best dragon master,' categorically. Given Lance, it's not entirely clear why she would be drawn to say that. Perhaps the dragon fumes from the Dragon's Den went to her head. They do seem a bit inconsistent, generally, though.

It fits perfectly with Clair's personality, IMO. I've always seen her as a rival to Lance in the same way as Blue is to Red or Silver is to Kris. She's obsessed with power and strength and thinks that's what it takes to be a Pokémon Master, yet the gentle, compassionate Lance is the one who actually went on to be a Champion. Like Blue and Silver, she simply refuses to admit that he's a better trainer than her and that her attitude towards Pokémon is all wrong.

In addition, for some reason they became incapable of making female Gym leaders who could just give you the badge without sending you on some sort of tangential errand for it, or just crying. Seemingly the Johto League is a bit lax about everything.

I never noticed that, but you're right. o_O (Luckily, Kanto's female gym leaders somewhat balanced out that slight sexism.)

I've always felt that the Johto League was very poor and underfunded. Notice that Johto is the only region that has no E4. Instead, trainers with Johto badges go to the same E4 at the Indigo Plateau as trainers with Kanto badges. This, combined with the lack of overlap between Kanto and Johto gym types, strongly implies that Johto is merely an adjunct to the Kanto/Indigo League rather than a solitary League like Hoenn or Sinnoh.

 

[illumine]

She's obsessed with power and strength and thinks that's what it takes to be a Pokémon Master, yet the gentle, compassionate Lance is the one who actually went on to be a Champion.

Eh, they don't really mention Lance, and their attitude to the Elite 4 is explicitly that they can survive, not that they are significantly better, and indeed she tends to promote them quite a bit. In addition, part of the reason she makes the assertion is presumably as a Gym leader, where such claims tend to come up, and in that particular hierarchy Lance is of course higher. It seems more likely to be an oversight.

I never noticed that, but you're right. o_O (Luckily, Kanto's female gym leaders somewhat balanced out that slight sexism.)

Kanto's female gyms could be a bit casual or weird as well, as with Erika's, which didn't really seem to want to be a serious part of the league, where they might have been hoping that you had a Charizard or something and could forget the whole thing. The Kanto League was, of course, presided over so far as gyms went by Giovanni, so in that sense neither comes across as too 'organised.' The Kanto females were generally not singled out that much, though, except in terms of the anime, which seems to have continued the trend of Kanto's female Gym leaders all being seen as basically the same for no real reason. The Johto gyms of the type also seem to be so protected.

I've always felt that the Johto League was very poor and underfunded. Notice that Johto is the only region that has no E4. Instead, trainers with Johto badges go to the same E4 at the Indigo Plateau as trainers with Kanto badges.

To be fair, they were permitted to use the same E4, or were considered equivalent. They might not be considered that distinct, then, and it might just be in part a question of regional proximity.