Does God exist?

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That put me at ease. Sorry for overreacting, but you should see some people that feel believers are idiots. It just burns me up.

At the same time, I've been through 3 churches before I found the right one, because many christians feel that they are absolutely right. My mother, while a believer, stopped going to church because as a child, she saw her minister turn a homeless man out of church. That's dispicable.

I have no problem with people who believes otherwise. If you're jewish (I never really liked the phrase, "a jew"), fine. If your atheist, cool. If you're a satist, well...depends on the person.

As for the extremist, which is the opposite of my beliefs, are only good because they are ripe for parody. I just love the "72 virgins" jokes. They never get old.

EDIT: Excuse me, badger? This is exactly what I mean by ignorance. Or arrogance. It's clear that you missed my point COMPLETELY. Maybe you should spend more time thinking before you post. This is exactly what I mean by those who think they are always right, & if you don't go by what they say, you are stupid. It's pretty sad.
 
Jaimes said:
Not at all. I am trying to stress that beliefs can be morally wrong as well as right, especially those caused by relgion. It is up to individuals to decide which part they should really accept.
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This is genius, very well put. We wouldnt all be bickering if someone said it was wrong to believe that babies deserve to tortured, because it is a wrong belief, it is POSSIBLE for beleifs to be WRONG. I am not saying they are equatable beleifs but it proves the point that beliefs are not ALL RIGHT because HAPPY DAY EVERYONE CAN BELIEF WHAT THEY WANT TEE HEE HAPPY DAY NOTHING IS WRONG MORAL RELATIVISM IS ABSOLUTE IN ITS SCOPE TEE HEE. No, history has shown that organized religion is a disease on this earth, born of a selfish craving to live forever, judge others, and not face death.
 
I personally do not believe in any kind of God or higher being, but I do not mind those that do as long as they're reasonable about it and don't shove their beliefs up other people's throats. This is entirely a question of faith - no scientific theory can completely rule out the existence of a higher being, but the chances of one existing is are so ridiculously low I'd rather choose not to believe in a higher being. Besides, even if one would exist, then I highly doubt it'd care about us, who, in comparison to the rest of the universe, are just a little bit of dust floating around in outer space. I'd think a being with the ability to defy the laws of physics has something better to do than tending to greedy, futile beings who don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.

I couldn't care less about someone's view on God, to be honest. Everyone has the right to choose what to believe and in my opinion, in matters like this, no one has a right to tell the other he or she is wrong. One of my best friends believes in God and I respect her opinion and she respects mine. Needless to say I have little respect for those who judge others by their religious beliefs as it is impossible to both rule out and to prove the existence of a higher being.
 
You should really spend more time understanding things before you post anything. He also said their are plenty of examples of organized religion is a good thing, thiough you can read that yourself.

This is a prime example of people who thinks that you are absolutely wrong if you side with something other than what they think. A disease on this Earth? There are plenty of positive examples of religion, that you just happen to ignore comepletly. Yes, everyone can beieve whatever they waht. It's called having an open mind. Why that is so wrong to you is beyond me.


Smarties second paragraph is true enough. And that anti-attitude is what annoys me. We have a right to believe whatever we want--and you don't have the right to say that it's wrong, which was why I was mad.
 
badgerskunk said:
This is genius, very well put. We wouldnt all be bickering if someone said it was wrong to believe that babies deserve to tortured, because it is a wrong belief, it is POSSIBLE for beleifs to be WRONG. I am not saying they are equatable beleifs but it proves the point that beliefs are not ALL RIGHT because HAPPY DAY EVERYONE CAN BELIEF WHAT THEY WANT TEE HEE HAPPY DAY NOTHING IS WRONG MORAL RELATIVISM IS ABSOLUTE IN ITS SCOPE TEE HEE. No, history has shown that organized religion is a disease on this earth, born of a selfish craving to live forever, judge others, and not face death.
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....Understood absolutely nothing in that post just now, up until the last sentance. Anyways, blantatly put..no dude, you're wrong. Horribly.

Again, I'm not some hardcore religious stereotype, and there are extremists out that will advidly try to convert you, but you're making a very general statement about religion: Not everyone is going out and trying to start up wars based on what they believe in. Everyone that respects other people's belief is fine with me, and some use faith as something to fall back on in life. Most religion itself promotes peace, it's the people who can't understand that concept that are the ones going out and starting wars because of it. You know what? Go out and find me one religion that actually promotes "torturing babies" then maybe I'll be able to understand..whatever the hell it is that you just said o_O

What you're doing here is just as bad as those who try to force their religion onto everyone else =/
 
I HAD made a church worshiping Warheart, but it was disbanded by the military...

As said, badger, you are ONLY focusing on the negatives to make an incomplete generalization of religion. That is what gets me mad. Jaimes said it perfectly in the 19th post.
 
That's a rather straight-forward question, yet not as simple for me to answer. I was raised in the Catholic Church, so naturally, I've had a lot of unanswered questions.

I consider every God that has ever come to been worshiped, exists as any of the others and that this is evidenced by the profound affect they have/had on their followers. I cease to believe that any God has a gender, because God doesn't need to reproduce sexually, so to call a God "Him", "Her", "Father", "Mother" is just something cultures like to do so that the gender they decide on has a dominant feel. While I believe as I first stated that there are many Gods, I think it's a wiser choice to pick the one that people around you are following, unless it's a detriment to them, because obviously it's impractical to follow a God that demands on human sacrifice or sacred prostitution in this day and age. And I don't believe there is any God that is essentially better than any other, and that it's really up to us to choose which one(s) we follow.

Finally, I don't believe in "Heaven". I say that it was a mere thought of corrupt overlords convincing their underlings to waste their lives slaving away on a promise rewarded to them after death. I personally think it's a dangerous belief that promotes people not to make the most of their lives on Earth, however I respect other peoples' rights to have those beliefs, provided they don't use the disparaging "you're going to Hell" nonsense towards me. I find that both are illogical, as observation of Nature shows that it recycles. In my opinion, Reincarnation is much more believable than the thought of an afterlife. I'm not quite sure about intelligent design, but I don't fully trust the Big Bang theory. I think the creation of the Universe and subsequently life was a combination of chance and intelligent nudges followed by evolution.

I find it ridiculous how science and religion always think they have to create conflict, because they both equally have points to the topic at hand.
 
So why don't you explain yourself rather than insulting, or breaking the character limit?
 
sims796 said:
So why don't you explain yourself rather than insulting, or breaking the character limit?
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I suppose I could repost it and then you could predictably ignore once again every rule of logic and respond irrationally and over emotionally exposing your insecurity and ironically your reason for needing religion in the first place.
 
You just don't seem to understand. This is just what we mean by people who force their beliefs on others. I said time & time again. I have no problem with people who believes in evolution. It is your intolerance that is so sad.

If I am so wrong, how come you are the only one who must resort to petty insults?
 
sims796 said:
You just don't seem to understand. This is just what we mean by people who force their beliefs on others. I said time & time again. I have no problem with people who believes in evolution. It is your intolerance that is so sad.

If I am so wrong, how come you are the only one who must resort to petty insults?
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Once again you make no reference to the actual argument and you fail to point out one single flaw in my statement.
 
There has been numerous post regarding your statement that you just tend to ignore. It's also apparent that you don't know how to respect the views of others on this thread.
 
badgerskunk said:
Once again you make no reference to the actual argument and you fail to point out one single flaw in my statement.
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..Dude, there is no arguement. There never was until you decided just now to rant to people about how believing in God is wrong.

..Plus it's kinda hard to point out flaws in your statement if no one really..gets what the hell you were saying. We're just trying to understand you, bro, and from what I saw..your entire post just now was a huge flaw in itself o_O
 
My entire post was a huge flaw?... ok, whatever makes you feel good and think your going to heaven.

Warheart said:
..Dude, there is no arguement. There never was until you decided just now to rant to people about how believing in God is wrong.

..Plus it's kinda hard to point out flaws in your statement if no one really..gets what the hell you were saying. We're just trying to understand you, bro, and from what I saw..your entire post just now was a huge flaw in itself o_O
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I believe but then I have my doubts. They say God created the earth but who created God, I mean he could'nt have just appeared from thin air. Then there is the theory of "evolution" with kind of don't make sense, scientists say that the bird is a relative to the T-Rex with is a bunch of ****. How can you say that a tiny bird with wings and feathers was related to a giant with scaly skin. Oh yeah, don't get me started on who scientists think we are related to COME ON I think that they were on meds or something. I know you are going to say "what about the Dinosaurs?" well God could have made them too but decided to whipe them out and start over and didn't say nothing about it until we found the fossils. I kind of believe because I believe that ghost exist; my house was haunted. I belive in saints but I don't belive in church. Who said to get closer to God you have to be in church Jesus didn't preach in church he preached outside. Think about it.
 
badgerskunk said:
My entire post was a huge flaw?... ok, whatever makes you feel good and think your going to heaven.
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He means he literally can't understand what you meant. Rather than needlessly making cheap comments, why not explain yourself better?
 
badgerskunk said:
My entire post was a huge flaw?... ok, whatever makes you feel good and think your going to heaven.
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...No? Um..go back and read my first post, I'm..not religious. At all. I just think they way you're attempting to like, verbally beat people down for believeing in a higher being is..kinda effed up. Just because you don't agree with someone else's way of thinking doesn't doesn't give you the right to bash on them like that. You don't know if God exsists, and neither do I..or anyone else in this thread, so like, when you decide to die you can come down and tell everyone that religion is all lies but until then, people are entitled to their own opinions.

If you want to keep trying to blame wars on religion you should probably just know that even if religion was wiped from the entire eath, people would just find new crap to fight over =/
 
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I was an atheist until I went to a graveyard and saw a ghost, so now I believe when I die I will turn into a ghost almost completely devoid of personality with one goal and one goal alone: scare people and act creepy, be seen but only in a hard to verify way, stand in peoples peripheal vision then run etc etc
 
FHJoker said:
scientists say that the bird is a relative to the T-Rex with is a bunch of ****. How can you say that a tiny bird with wings and feathers was related to a giant with scaly skin. Oh yeah, don't get me started on who scientists think we are related to COME ON I think that they were on meds or something.
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Yes, of course. Never mind the years of schooling and studying that was required of them to get the credentials to make the assertions that evolution happened. They are clearly retarded and are not as smart as a 16-year-old kid who has never taken a biology course in his entire life.

Crazy anti-intellectual nation.
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When it comes to philosophy, christians work backwards to support a mandatory supposed truth. Scientists work from the ground up based on logic.
 
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