DS vs. PSP

[Carlito-san]

Thats the sells for your specific store though Sarah...if we went by Country, then X-box is barely selling at all in Japan...whereas GCN is beating it...

But I already know that PS2 sells more than GCN

D,thats only in america.Only 1/16 of the world.

 

[John Denver]

People like to say that when I present them with raw facts.
"Oh, thats just YOUR store".
Well the argument is old, think up something else cause I'm gonna dispell it.
Think about it. Head office sent us FOUR copies only on the GCN, because they knew it wouldn't sell well. Now, why do you think they'd do that? Could it be they know the GCN is just the system no-one wants?
I bet if I looked up store allocation when I'm at work, I'd see that 4 copies is about standard for what every store got.
You gotta understand, Nintendo Fanboi, that I work from facts.
I dont make up crap, like you.

Watch your tone Sarah...you always feel the need to add a little insult in your posts...none of us have attacked you directly, so don't feel like you have to

But when you start off a post saying "At my store this. At my store that" people aren't going to think what you say applies to the rest of the world. Yes, we KNOW that your store sells GCN less than the other 3 systems. We've realized that already, you drill it into our heads in every post.

We KNOW that GCN sells less than PS2, we aren't denying the facts, at least I'm not. But that doesn't change the fact that I think GCN is far superior to the PS2 system wise and game wise.

Booo....ya...

 

[Brittany]

People like to say that when I present them with raw facts.
"Oh, thats just YOUR store".
Well the argument is old, think up something else cause I'm gonna dispell it.
Think about it. Head office sent us FOUR copies only on the GCN, because they knew it wouldn't sell well. Now, why do you think they'd do that? Could it be they know the GCN is just the system no-one wants?
I bet if I looked up store allocation when I'm at work, I'd see that 4 copies is about standard for what every store got.
You gotta understand, Nintendo Fanboi, that I work from facts.
I dont make up crap, like you.

Straight to the point, and though it may hurt feelings, I have to say that I agree 100%.

It annoys me when someone spends thier time defending false information(intentional or not), and fails to accept the truth, even from people that have the capacity to be know-it-alls like you or I. I'm sure that there are other people that want to defend DS with real facts in this thread, but until then, people need to stop pretending that thier opinions and false information are facts. It just doesn't work that way.

I'm not directing this to anyone specifically, but please just think about what you type before you actually post it people. Ask yourself if it's actually been confirmed, or is it the best explanation you could think of, off the top of your head?


And to Dakota, at least you write say that you think it is, rather than automatically saying it's fact, or implying that your opinion is better than another's.


Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But nobody can make up a fact.

 

[Kairi]

I am a Sony person. At least I use cold hard facts to back my opinions. At any rate, the minority of my points lie in my opinion, because I have had to clear up false information 90% of the time XD

And why does track record matter? Sony doesn't have a track record in this area, so to say that Nintendo's is 'better', is a very biased assumption in my opinion. They did it with PS2 vs GCN, they can do it again :P
I disagree strongly. I don't have anything else to say XD
Yes, I have heard of a DRE on GameCube.

Like I said though, facts are good, but they can't formulate for sure if one will succeed or fail.

@D, well, like she said, it's the expectations. If the EB only sent 4 copies, it means they must have experienced poor sales of GCN titles before.

@Brit 2:

No. No no no. You are not the games mod. Don't tell people how to act. Yes, they may have been making up stuff about the GCN versus the PS2. All you can do is tell them the facts. If they refuse to accept that, you need not point it out. Cause that's what strts the flames. This topic is no longer about the DS and the PSP, but about facts and acceptance and thread behavior. And that's very very bad. So cool down, and let's all find a new topic about the DS/PSP.

 

[Brittany]

Hmm, some would consider jumping into a thread and posting every thought that comes to their head spam, but I guess not.

Even when I tried to start a lil' conversation about some PSP games, someone had to come in and make up information about them, which makes discussion almost impossible, unless you're a DS lover.

I'll back off for a while.

 

[John Denver]

Dakota, why don't you read the post I was replying to, before stepping in with your hollier-than-thou additude? Someone claims it's a fact that the GCN outsells the PS2. All I do is set the record straight.

In addition to calling them Fanbois and saying they make crap up...meh...

And Brit, ugh, I can't begin to explain how everything you just posted applies 100% to you more than anyone.

Although, ashamed as I am to admit, most of the fanboys in this thread do support the DS with faulty info. The things I do know that are fact

PSP is slightly faster and has better graphics than the DS
DS has a wider amount of extra features
PSP is lead by a team with no experience in handhelds
DS is lead by a team a decades amount of experince in handhelds
UMDs hold more than the DS boxes
The PSP's battery life for games is around 6 hours-ish
The DS's battery life for games is around 10 or 12 (I think, I might have to check)

And that is, I think, the extent of my knowledge...

*struts off*

 

[Brittany]

And Brit, ugh, I can't begin to explain how everything you just posted applies 100% to you more than anyone.

I have not once introduced false information, or said that my opinion was fact. Yet people accused me of it all the time.

"Brit, you don't know the battery life!"
"Brit, you don't know what the price will be!"


Remember this stuff? People said I didn't know anything about this stuff. But now that the results are public, who's right?

Okay, let's get some discussion done.
Now that the system is out, we can see that the PSP infact has a plastic cover to protect it's screen, making it vastly more durable than first thought.
The entire system is well built, comfortable to hold, and feels like the same kind of quality as a good Sony MD Player.
Initial reports are now stating battery life is far greater then originally thought. Ridge Racers, Medium Screen Brightness, Six Hours and Thirteen minutes for the battery to do. WHich is THREE TIMES what Nintendo Fanboys would have you beleive.
Given it's rechargable battery is built in, six hours is plenty, given that's PLAY time, while standby time is probably measured in days like a standard high end cell phone.
So there you go, thats my discussion contributed

Oh yes, didn't I also say that the PSP had a plastic cover? Another fact I pointed out, that in turn, made me the liar in the old threads.

 

[Kairi]

Brittany, stop it. Right now. Proving yourself right is getting nowhere but very very close to getting this thread closed. You could have talked about how the PSPs power will make for a different style of gameplay, and how that'll help it. You could have said you didn't feel the DS's abilities matched that.

But you are intent on proving you were right, he was wrong. That's not the point of the thread. Last warning, if this thread doesn't go 100% PSP/DS, it's closed.

 

[Scyther5]

How long is the battery life of the PSP?
Sony Computer Entertainment has made measurements of the PSP's abilities, based on technical standards and in-game performance of work-in-progress games. On October 27, 2004, the company announced that the typical battery life for the PSP will be between 4 and 6 hours for games, with 4-5 hours for video viewing. These numbers, according to SCE, were determined with the system's luminance set to maximum (180 cd/m2) and minimum (80 cd/m2), volume set to half the maximum level, headphones used instead of speakers and wireless LAN not in use.

SCE has described its 1,800mAh battery to be able to power the unit for as long as typical battery-based portable electronics, which would include portable DVD and MP3 players as well as other game systems. At E3 2004 in May, SCE estimated the PSP's battery life to run between 2 1/2 and 10 hours. The PSP's various CPUs are scalable, and usage of the UMD disc drive may depend between different types of games and game engines. ~ IGN
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Just what I found off IGN, for the record I support both systems..so Im not for one more than the other.

 

[Kairi]

Okay guys, here's a good opportunity. He posted a snippet of an article from a website. Now, if you wish to refute this fact, you can find a credible source, and offer proof. This is where facts come in. However, if you don't really add anything like how it would affect the PSP IF that were true, you're just tossing around facts.

 

[John Denver]

Tales of Symphonia
Zelda
Final Fantasy
Golden Sun
Smash Melee

If the DS came out with ANY of these kinds of games...I would buy it in a snap

*wonder if they can make DDR on the PSP*

 

[Scyther5]

@ Kairi ~I'm just trying to clear things up since the battery life seems to be a giant Issue.

 

[Kairi]

They have a DDR on the computer, but I don't think the real DDR fans would want a version without…you know, activity. O_o;

And ToS is now on the PS2, too, so I dunno if it'd be developed exclusively for the PSP. Or both, since as the first post shows, there's a big difference in hardware.

And I understand. ^_^; Your post was fine, jjust using it in example.

 

[Brittany]

Tales of Symphonia
Zelda
Final Fantasy
Golden Sun
Smash Melee

If the DS came out with ANY of these kinds of games...I would buy it in a snap

*wonder if they can make DDR on the PSP*

Zelda and FF are the best bets out of that bunch, but I'm really looking forward to a Golden Sun sequel. I'm not sure about TOS or Smash though XD

And PSP could infact handle DDR, but what's the point? XD

 

[Scyther5]

Well, that article was the most up to date one I've found.
Also, from that article it sounds like the PSP is going to have an MP3, is that true?

 

[John Denver]

Zelda and FF are the best bets out of that bunch, but I'm really looking forward to a Golden Sun sequel. I'm not sure about TOS or Smash though XD

And PSP could infact handle DDR, but what's the point? XD

You could have super ripped thumbs

 

[Scyther5]

Oh, thats pretty cool. Then I guess they where obviusly talking about the DVD( or what ever it is) battery life.

 

[Lucifer.]

I disagree strongly. I don't have anything else to say XD

Well obviously I can only speak for myself (and about 6 other friends), but so far the PSOne and PS2 are the only consoles I've owned that malfunctioned in some way or another. I still have an N64 in mint condition and full-working order, whereas my original PlayStation was a total nightmare. I never had it chipped or opened it up in any way, yet it still gradually degraded into a worthless piece of nothing by the day. Eventually I was reduced to standing it on its side just to have it load games at half the normal speed.

Now it's the same for this generation. The GC works as though I bought it 2 weeks ago, while the PS2 is just...[bleh]. It works okay, but like I said before, it's showing all the early signs of going boom-boom just like my original system did.

I've always taken good care of the things, which is mirrored by the fact that I've kept every console since the NES in quality condition. It's no mere coincidence that Sony's consoles are the only ones that give me grief. Heck, just head over to the official UK PlayStation forums for more complaints about its questionable quality.

 

[fudge01]

true.... true..... my ps2 screws up and makes funny noises too. Even though i baught my Gamecube Before my ps2 my gamecube has no problems.....

 

[Kairi]

I've had a toasted Gamecube, PS2, and two Dreamcasts. This comes from playing them so much, I suppose. I've have a Playstation since the beginning that's always worked, though. But I really dobut these handhelds would wear out, since they'd be expensive to cover under warranty.