Dukey's first RMT in a long time. [OU]

[Dukey]

So basically, on my holiday, I played platinum a bit and ended up finishing most of it. So I went and hopped onto battle tower, which was fun, but it wasn't very hard, 'cept after the 2nd Palmer battle :/

So anyways, I decided to make a not-so-triumphant return to battling.
At first I tried throwing together some of the pokemon in my box, which failed miserably, so I went back to using my team from when I left, and it's been doing okay, but it definately needs some fixing up.
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The Team Updated!

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Dusknoir (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/6 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Shadow Sneak
- Ice Punch
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake
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My lead basically [duh]. He generally hits pretty hard, especially with all the taunting going on, shadow sneak does great when they do this, as it will do 50%+ first turn, then casuing them to faint 2nd, hence they haven't set up SR.

Flygon (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Fire Punch
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- U-turn
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A pretty basic flygon, he isn't really anything special at the moment.

Heatran (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spe/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Dark Pulse [Updated]
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
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Ahh, good ol' scarftran, deals up hefty damage with fire blast and tends to take the foe by surprise, I try to keep him alive as best I can, since he really does help.

Raydos (Gyarados) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Stone Edge [Updated]
- Waterfall
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This here is called Gyarados for the sake of Gyarados, he's yet to be anything special, and could probably be changed.

Swampa (Swampert) (M) @ Leftovers [Updated]
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Def
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Stealth Rock
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Probably can be changed, isn't doing much.

Porygon2 @ Leftovers
Ability: Trace
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/42 SAtk
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
- Recover
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And my sole wall on this team, which really isn't a good thing. He generally just casues para and recovers, I'm considering an Umbreon here.

So yeah, that's about it any help is much appreciated.

 

[wolf]

Dukey! :D

The only leads you lose to with Dusknoir is Swampert, Tyranitar (which you might be able to survive against, and OHKO back with Earthquake), and maybe Infernape, that is surprising. :o

Gyarados needs Stone Edge over Ice Fang, it kills off opposing Gyarados, Zapdos, etc. Gives you better coverage alongside Waterfall too.

Signal Beam is preferred over Grass Knot for coverage against Psychics and Darks like Celebi, Starmie, Azelf, Cresselia, etc. Usually Infernape is better than Alakazam as you get more chances to switch as Infernape as a few handy resistances, and he does not lose to Scizor. You do have some problems with stall too.

Porygon2 is dead weight, nothing really benefits the Thunder Waves much, and only counters Gyarados. Something like Swampert would fit well there, so it gives another free move for Heatran (you can take SR off). He can handle Gyarados some.

 

[Aurafire]

Four choice users is kinda...pushing it. I mean, you do have Trick on Zam, but it still makes your team very prediction reliant and allows your opponent multiple chances to set up. I'd consider changing up a moveset or a team member to take care of this. I don't really see the point of both CB Flygon and Dusknoir, especially with Dusknoir leading. Maybe try leading with Heatran and slapping a scarf on Flygon so you can revenge stuff. I don't see too many weaks though.

 

[Dukey]

Thanks guys, I took wolFLARE's advice just before, and did pretty much all his stuff.
Thanks for that too Aura, and the team has changed a fair bit now, with it having a Swampert.
I had removed Zam almost immediately after posting this, and replaced him with Uxie, which worked well, and with Uxie & Pory teaming up they brought down major pains like Vaporeon.

Though Uxie got swapped for Sampert.

But I agree, all the choice users is pushing it a bit, but obviously there are less now without Zam.

Choice Band on Dusk, works to it's advantage more often than not, with it having shadow sneak as a priority move.

 

[ABYAY]

The 4 choice user thing really puts your prediction to the test. Although the bulky choice users benefit you a good bit, as well as its plethora of resistances and team synergy, it helps you a lot.

I'll try to rate when you update your team again.

 

[Dark Azelf]

He can handle Gyarados some.

Swampert is a horrible Gyarados counter, it loses like 80% of its health just switching into a DD LO Waterfall.

P2 also covers this teams Vappy, LO Jolteon, and DD mence weaks too in addition to the already mentioned Gyara weak.

 

[Dukey]

Kay, updated the first post, more help is appreciated.

 

[ABYAY]

That Swampert running Curse is making me iffy with Stealth Rock as well. I can see you potentially having him as a last resort, but he's going to die to a small handful of special attacks without sp.def EVs.

I don't see much use of Dark Pulse on Heatran aside from Flinching. A neutral Fire Blast hits more than a super effective Dark Pulse. Dark Pulse for Starmie is the only notable thing I see here, and you shouldn't have to do that. I'd strongly suggest something like Explosion for a last resort move, Will-o-Wisp for burning things like Mence/Gyara/Tar, or even something like Toxic for a filler. Will-o-Wisp or Explosion are preferred imo.

I can't see any big weaknesses on this team, and that's a big plus. However, I can see Swampert not being too much help, although he does give you a bulky rock resist. You could try a fighting type in his place to help deal with those CB Stone Edges that Tyranitar can dish out. Flygon can only take so much punishment from that without some bulk. Problem is, without Swampert, you lack your own Stealth Rock.

 

[wolf]

Really, I suggest getting something to lead with SR, that would give you a free slot in Swampert's position to have another offensive Pokemon. Usually, Metagross, Mamoswine, Jirachi, and Heatran are good leads. Dusknoir is an okay anti-lead, but usually anti-leads fit better in balance teams, or bulky offensive as they usually have a Pokemon that can set up SR within their team, offensive teams are too busy sweeping. ABYAY said most of suggestions I was going to say.

Swampert is a horrible Gyarados counter, it loses like 80% of its health just switching into a DD LO Waterfall.

Well, it takes around 55%, but still no counter. Should have edited once I found out. :<

 

[Dark Azelf]

@ Wolf i was thinking about DD LO Aqua Tail when i said it does like 80%. @_@

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Dusknoir (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/6 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Shadow Sneak
- Ice Punch
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake

This is a poor lead, you fail to even 2hko Aero and Infernape with shadow sneak lol. The only leads you dont lose to out of the top twenty is Forry and Azelf, really. https://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2051364&postcount=3 :/ This could do with more Trick somewhere imo to help with stall, if Flygon gets Toxic'd or something switching into Blissey stall pretty much decimates this team just be careful of that.

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Flygon (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Fire Punch
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- U-turn
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Heatran (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 Att/252 Spe/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -sp.def)
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Expolsion
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
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Dark Pulse sucks, a neutral fire blast hits exactly the same as a super effective fire blast, use Explosion so you arent sp.wall bait. That and booming on bulky waters will help Gyarados sweep alot better.

Raydos (Gyarados) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Stone Edge [Updated]
- Waterfall
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Yeah.

Swampa (Swampert) (M) @ Leftovers [Updated]
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP/252 def/6 sp.att
Relaxed nature (+Def, -speed)
- Roar
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Stealth Rock
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Ev spread was awful. Also Mixpert will always be superior to physical pert since it does more damage. You need Roar on Swampert these days, or i find it is really bad set up fodder and helps with scouting. This is also a MUCH better lead than Dusknoir.

Porygon2 @ Leftovers
Ability: Trace
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/42 SAtk
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Discharge
- Ice Beam
- Toxic
- Recover
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Never use Umbreon in ou if you like winning. T-Wave and Thunderbolt can easily be put into one slot (aka Discharge) to free you up a moveslot here which i advise you use Toxic, it helps alot against bulkier stuff like Swampert who your team DOES struggle against.

Consider running 16 speed evs, to outspeed standard subperior.

Comments in bold.

 

[Sebastien Loeb]

I don't understand how come Dusknoir both lead but because is Choice Bander, your team is a lot of weak to Scarfcross in combo with Stealth Rock.

 

[Pokedra]

Firstly Explosion >>> Dark Pulse, it lets you smash Blissey and stuff and neutral Fire Blast is stronger anyways XP

I'd switch Swampert to MixPert and lead with it since it works much better then Noir.

Swampert @ Leftovers
Nature : Relaxed
EV : 252 HP / 212 Def / 52 SpAtk
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Ice Beam
-Roar

Three Choice users still require a lot of prediction, I would consider replacing Dusknoir or switching his set =)