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5th Gen Encourage Ability

MistahDude said:
That is because STAB multiplies the power of a move by 1.5x, which is an increase of 50%.

Mooguru is part flying type. He would get STAB from flying attacks. Brave Bird is a 120 powered flying move. Even if the power increase was by 10% the move would be 132 power. The STAB increase would bring it to 198 Power. It is still over powered.

Hihidaruma is pure fire. He would get STAB from fire attacks. Fire Punch is 75 Power. If Encourage was 10% of an increase it would be raised to 82.5 Power. If you add the STAB Increase you would get 123.75 Power. It is still going to be over powered even if it is as low as 10% so long as you have STAB.
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Well... Brave Bird has 120 Power and with STAB is 180. So already it's kinda over powered. Breloom has nightmares about this attack. That's why they have recoil. Imagine someone using Brave Bird with the Encourage ability, yes It's going to be overpowered but damn the recoil is going to be huge.

BUT in my opinion, I think that this ability will have another drawback, I think it only powers up moves that HAVE a secondary effect.
Hmmm... Like a trade. If you want extra power you need to give up your secondary effect. No secondary effect? No extra power! BYE!
I think ONLY having it negate secondary effects is not enough.

As for how much it raises, I'm going to say 25%
 
We still don't know the exact effect do we? Let's not jump to conclusions and get all comfortable.
 
But I think it'll power up all attacks, not just those with secondary effects. That's just lame.
 
Haza said:
But I think it'll power up all attacks, not just those with secondary effects. That's just lame.
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Well that's what the description said when we got the new two pokemon with the ability. Well if it wasn't only secondary moves it would be very broken...
 
Numbers said:
Well... Brave Bird has 120 Power and with STAB is 180. So already it's kinda over powered. Breloom has nightmares about this attack. That's why they have recoil. Imagine someone using Brave Bird with the Encourage ability, yes It's going to be overpowered but damn the recoil is going to be huge.

BUT in my opinion, I think that this ability will have another drawback, I think it only powers up moves that HAVE a secondary effect.
Hmmm... Like a trade. If you want extra power you need to give up your secondary effect. No secondary effect? No extra power! BYE!
I think ONLY having it negate secondary effects is not enough.

As for how much it raises, I'm going to say 25%
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that doesn't exactly limit that many moves.

Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:
Well that's what the description said when we got the new two pokemon with the ability. Well if it wasn't only secondary moves it would be very broken...
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we have other broken abilities. Its not like this is the only one.
 
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Haza said:
And he doesn't look like the type to have mediocre stats, but neither did Arcanine or Pidgeot... idk, I have high hopes for this monster.
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arcanines stats are actually quite good its base stat total is 555 which is very high for a non legendary, non psuedo-legendary pokemon
 
StratusJm said:
arcanines stats are actually quite good its base stat total is 555 which is very high for a non legendary, non psuedo-legendary pokemon
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Also it is only part of a two pokemon line so if it had a evolution...watch out here comes a new Pseudo!
What other abilities are broken anyways?
 
It can't and will not be broken.

Why? Because Game Freak is good at this.

Simple as that. Anything that could break it will be tweaked and fixed. That said, I believe it'll only work on moves that have a secondary effect; otherwise, it could be broken. Why only could? Because Game Freak could amp up the whole dang metagame and make everything we would consider broken in our nice little HGSS metagame completely normal.
 
Twilight Sky said:
Just saying that if this generation comes out with its own Ice Beam/Stone edge/stealth rock/priority, it probably won't last in OU for a while.
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Looks like they'll both be weak to stealth rock regardless? Then again, SR never stopped Salamence completely, but it was a definite help. I think Hihidaruma, more than anything, has to worry about speed, but that's just me. Wooguru will be the better recipient of this ability, I think, as long as it has the speed. (which I assume based on the Eagle-like look)

And eh, I'm skeptical of calling this "broken," though. I don't feel we have enough information to make such a call. The atmosphere of Black and White's metagame might not give these two such an upper hand. I'm going to continue to wait till I offer my full opinion on the ability, really. It sure is interesting though.
 
Ninja Caterpie said:
It can't and will not be broken.

Why? Because Game Freak is good at this.

Simple as that. Anything that could break it will be tweaked and fixed. That said, I believe it'll only work on moves that have a secondary effect; otherwise, it could be broken. Why only could? Because Game Freak could amp up the whole dang metagame and make everything we would consider broken in our nice little HGSS metagame completely normal.
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It wasnt part of the actual translation but its possible that it could be that way. I actually thought that was the case until a non fire type got the ability. Almost all Fire type moves have the secondary effect of burn, but very little flying and normal type moves have secondary effects. I don't think GF would give Wooguru the short end of the stick.
 
Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:
Also it is only part of a two pokemon line so if it had a evolution...watch out here comes a new Pseudo!
What other abilities are broken anyways?
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na i think with psuedos the entire evolutionary line has to be released in one generation plus they are always dual-typed from the first form and ya i just dont think arcanine becoming a psuedo would happen sorry! what it really needs is a massively expanded move pool.

the only ability i can think of that could possibly be broken is wonderguard but they compensated for that
 
MistahDude said:
It wasnt part of the actual translation but its possible that it could be that way. I actually thought that was the case until a non fire type got the ability. Almost all Fire type moves have the secondary effect of burn, but very little flying and normal type moves have secondary effects. I don't think GF would give Wooguru the short end of the stick.
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Well maybe they did that to Wooguru because it already has high attack (just guessing it has high attack):\
 
StratusJm said:
na i think with psuedos the entire evolutionary line has to be released in one generation plus they are always dual-typed from the first form and ya i just dont think arcanine becoming a psuedo would happen sorry! what it really needs is a massively expanded move pool.

the only ability i can think of that could possibly be broken is wonderguard but they compensated for that
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Serene Grace is semi-broken. With Dunsparce you can continually spam flinch once you paralyze the opponent.

Between 5% to 15% of an increase for power with Encourage would be ideal, with all attacks not just the ones with secondary effects.
 
Twilight Sky said:
Encourage + STAB Air Slash? Of course, I'm not saying for sure that its learning Air slash, its just an example.

But I'm thinking it might be this gen's Togekiss, minus the hax.
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I can most definately see it as this gen's togekiss...wait does it's SA raise the attack stat of the move? like if it uses Air slash does it raise the Sa?
 
MistahDude said:
It wasnt part of the actual translation but its possible that it could be that way. I actually thought that was the case until a non fire type got the ability. Almost all Fire type moves have the secondary effect of burn, but very little flying and normal type moves have secondary effects. I don't think GF would give Wooguru the short end of the stick.
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Oh, trust me, they don't do that. You know Ambipom and Technician? Yeah, well, funny, Ambipom's most reliable under-60-BP attack is, well, Cut. Pathetic, until they made Double Hit, almost specially for Ambipom to be good.
 
MistahDude said:
Serene Grace is semi-broken. With Dunsparce you can continually spam flinch once you paralyze the opponent.

Between 5% to 15% of an increase for power with Encourage would be ideal, with all attacks not just the ones with secondary effects.
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oh i forgot about serene grace! and dont forget the 80% chance of a sharp drop in special defence sky shaymin has with seed flare

and i would say the attack increse will be closer to 25%
 
Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:
I can most definately see it as this gen's togekiss...wait does it's SA raise the attack stat of the move? like if it uses Air slash does it raise the Sa?
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It raises the "Power" of the move which means the base power of the move is increased. It doesn't raise the pokemon's special attack or attack stat.
 
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