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5th Gen Encourage Ability

StratusJm said:
yes but i have a question. everyones saying if something has a chnace of happening it doesnt happen whereas if it is definetely going to happen it will. so what happens with the move mud-slap which ALWAYS lowers the foes accuracy?
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I think it will still be cancelled.

Basically what I'm going to go by is Serebii's attack dex.

Any 'secondary effect' that has a --% will happen regardless, but anything with a number will not occur.

Meaning even though Mud-slap has a 100% accuracy down effect, that will not work with encourage.
 
SwiftSign said:
I think it will still be cancelled.

Basically what I'm going to go by is Serebii's attack dex.

Any 'secondary effect' that has a --% will happen regardless, but anything with a number will not occur.

Meaning even though Mud-slap has a 100% accuracy down effect, that will not work with encourage.
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thanks that actually makes a lot of sense!! ya azure im thinking it will be cancelled now!
 
I agree with you there guys
 
How about we define it like this?

Any ability of a move that can be negated is considered secondary.

With this definition, Mud Slap's accuracy lowering can be negated by Clear Body or Keen Eye, thus it is secondary. Overheat's Sp. Att lowering cannot be negated - not even by White Smoke or Clear Body, making it a primary effect.

Anything with a chance, obviously, has a chance of not happening.

This doesn't go for moves without power, of course. That becomes their primary effect.
 
Gardenia101 said:
I wouldn't use it, I put strategy and luck over power. Thats the only way to go when facing Red!
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In the remakes RED is all about using power, I dunno what you think it takes to beat him...

Im excited for both Wooguru and Hihidaruma.
 
Zet said:
No secondary effects? That's a bit lame in my opinion. And it won't do much to pokemon with the Mold Breaker ability.
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i dont see what mold breaker has to do with it. but i think you meant something like gastro acid
 
Twilight Sky said:
Mold breaker can negate Encourage the same way gastro acid can.
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oh i thought it just mean moves can be used regardless of ability, like wonder guard and ground moves on leviate. and water moves damage water absorb users, electric harms volt absorb users...but how is it effected by mold breaker?
 
Twilight Sky said:
In the end, I don't see it getting much use. It's all the hype at first, but its something some of us will easily look past once we get the games. Its like, "oh, Wooguru has encourage? Thats pretty nice". At least, thats how I'm envisioning it to be.
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Pretty much how I feel about this at the moment.
 
Twilight Sky said:
In the end, I don't see it getting much use. It's all the hype at first, but its something some of us will easily look past once we get the games. Its like, "oh, Wooguru has encourage? Thats pretty nice". At least, thats how I'm envisioning it to be.
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Yeah I see it like the "super luck" of gen 5 actually.
 
Twilight Sky said:
More like a gimmicky Technician, actually(and probably Initimidate weak at that, but then again, so is technician, granted the Pokemon doesn't have bulk up/swords dance). Even so, on a normal/flying type, well...depending on how it turns out, cause right now I don't want to make an assumption thats totally wrong, but I thought Staraptor would be pretty badass with intimidate, but it turns out that...well its stealth rock/boltbeam weak, so yeah. :(

Staraptor is more of a suicide Pokemon to use though, while I'm imagining Wooguru to be some sort of gimmicky technician user or something.
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I thought that as well :(
Yeah it could get pretty gimmicky...
 
Twilight Sky said:
In the end, I don't see it getting much use. It's all the hype at first, but its something some of us will easily look past once we get the games. Its like, "oh, Wooguru has encourage? Thats pretty nice". At least, thats how I'm envisioning it to be.
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ya there are better abilites to have tbh and i think the people calling it broken were going a bit overboard
 
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