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Epic Fail! (Testsweeper RMT)

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    I built this team out of complete boredom and just for fun, but I "decided" to post it anyways.

    Infernape @ Focus Sash
    Naive Nature
    48 Atk/ 208 Spe/ 252 Spa

    Fake Out
    Toxic
    Fire Blast
    Stealth Rock

    Lead Ape to give support. Toxic for status, SR for support.

    Salamence @ Life Orb
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP

    Fire Blast
    Earthquake
    Draco Meteor
    Dragon Claw

    Considering replacing this with a mixed sweeper that doesnt immediately die to DD Gyara.



    Metagross @ Choice Band
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk/ 244 Def/ 12 HP

    Earthquake
    Ice Punch
    Meteor Mash
    Bullet Punch

    Standard CBGross, with Ice Punch for da dragonz.

    Gyarados @ Life Orb
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 Def

    Dragon Dance
    Aqua Tail
    Ice Fang
    Earthquake

    Moar Powah DD Gyara. Considering Bite>> Ice Fang to hit psychics and such with.

    Lucario @ Life Orb
    Modest Nature
    Inner Focus
    252 spa/ 252 spe/ 6 hp

    Focus Blast
    Shadow Ball
    Agility
    HP Ice

    Agili Luke for some special attacking powah.

    Gengar @ Choice Scarf
    Timid Nature
    252 Spe/ 252 Spa/ 6 HP

    Thunderbolt
    Shadow Ball
    Hypnosis
    Focus Blast

    Scarf gar to reveng kill. COnsidering HP Ice>> Hypnosis for more attacks, but I get that already from agililuke.




    Team is nao posted. All of you who wanted to see it on Shoddy, here u go.
     
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    CScarf Lucario is epic fail, no pun intended. It doesn't hit hard at all, and once the surprise is over, it's done for. All that counters SD Luke counters ScarfLuke, & more. Plus, you have XSpeed AND Jolly? You really aren't trying to hurt anyone, huh?
     
    sims796 said:
    CScarf Lucario is epic fail, no pun intended. It doesn't hit hard at all, and once the surprise is over, it's done for. All that counters SD Luke counters ScarfLuke, & more. Plus, you have XSpeed AND Jolly? You really aren't trying to hurt anyone, huh?
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    I just felt like testing him out and seeing what he can do. I am being redundant on speed though. Maybe something >>Exspeed or Adamant>> Jolly.
     
    If you want, try out Agility Lucario:

    Lucario @ Life Orb
    Adamant or Modest
    252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP
    Agility
    Close Combat
    Crunch
    Swords Dance/HP Ice

    You can ditch some of the Speed (you only need 253 speed to outspeed Deoxys-e after an Agility) And put it into SpA, so the Adamant drop won't hurt as much.
     
    It still doesn't hit too hard without an SD, even Skarmory walls it.
     
    sims796 said:
    It still doesn't hit too hard without an SD, even Skarmory walls it.
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    I realize that, SD Luke is a monster, but let's face it: If you use Bullet Punch you are walled by faster waters and electrics, if you use Extremspeed you're walled by Gengar and Mismagius (who can attempt to set up and scare you away) Agility Luke isn't meant to really hit hard, but it can certainly pose a problem to offensive teams. It's sort of like a weaker Agiligross, except with Close Combat. It outspeeds Deoxys-e, ScarfChomp, variants of ScarfGar, hell, this thing outspeeds Gyarados after 2 Dragon Dances.
     
    Adamant >> Jolly on Gyara. Jolly does nothing bar loose power =/.

    Naive >>Jolly on Ape. Mixed and -att ? Yeah =/.

    And whilst we are on the subject of ape, your team lacks support and you WILL STRUGGLE with common leads, aka bronzong and foe suicide leads.

    Infernape@Focus Sash
    48 Atk / 208 Spe / 252 SpA
    Naive Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Fake Out
    - Fire Blast
    - Encore / Close Combat

    Lead Ape >> your current Mixape.

    Drives away common leads aka bronzong, negates suicide lead sash's and encores them into sr so you can set up your own SR and get a free switch in for something else.

    Close Combat is mainly for Aero and stuff, although Counter, Taunt, Will-o-wisp, heck even Toxic can all fit nicely into that last slot. So its basically what you want utility wise.

    That mence is ewww...., use this now that you lack mixed coverage that ape granted.

    Salamence@Life Orb
    Rash Nature
    120 ATT / 176 SPEED / 212 sp.att
    - Draco Meteor
    - Brick Break
    - Roost
    - Fire Blast / Flamethrower.

    Mixmence !.

    Kingdra....what is that accomplishing on this team ? Looks like a wasted slot imo, im sure you could find something more useful =/.

    I would probably use scarf Gar >>it so you can revenge kill stuff, and to prevent foe Gyarados trampling you.


    Gengar@CHoice Scarf
    252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Focus Blast
    - Hidden power Ice / Hypnosis
    - Thunderbolt
    - Shadow Ball



    Physical agililuke is poop, it cant hit hard enough against common switch ins =/.

    Lucario@Life Orb
    252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
    Modest Nature
    Trait : Inner Focus
    - Focus Blast
    - Shadow Ball
    - Hidden power Ice
    - Agility


    With sr support this is scary, 2hko's CALM Blissey with Focus Blast (without sr lol) and outruns timid max speed scarf Azelf after an agility ^__^ (And SR also helps with Gyarados stopping its sweep and what not.).

    You may use Aura Sphere >>F-Blast, however that will only 3hko blissey, the lack of power will be noticeable and i will call you for not having the guts to use the real mans option of Focus Blast =).



    yeah, just some things to consider here.
     
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    Dark_Azelf said:
    Adamant >> Jolly on Gyara. Jolly does nothing bar loose power =/.

    Naive >>Jolly on Ape. Mixed and -att ? Yeah =/.

    And whilst we are on the subject of ape, your team lacks support and you WILL STRUGGLE with common leads, aka bronzong and foe suicide leads.

    Infernape@Focus Sash
    48 Atk / 208 Spe / 252 SpA
    Naive Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Fake Out
    - Fire Blast
    - Encore / Close Combat

    Lead Ape >> your current Mixape.

    Drives away common leads aka bronzong, negates suicide lead sash's and encores them into sr so you can set up your own SR and get a free switch in for something else.

    Close Combat is mainly for Aero and stuff, although Counter, Taunt, Will-o-wisp, heck even Toxic can all fit nicely into that last slot. So its basically what you want utility wise.

    That mence is ewww...., use this now that you lack mixed coverage that ape granted.

    Salamence@Life Orb
    Rash Nature
    120 ATT / 176 SPEED / 212 sp.att
    - Draco Meteor
    - Brick Break
    - Roost
    - Fire Blast / Flamethrower.

    Mixmence !.

    Kingdra....what is that accomplishing on this team ? Looks like a wasted slot imo, im sure you could find something more useful =/.

    I would probably use scarf Gar >>it so you can revenge kill stuff, and to prevent foe Gyarados trampling you.


    Gengar@CHoice Scarf
    252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
    Timid Nature
    - Focus Blast
    - Hidden power Ice / Hypnosis
    - Thunderbolt
    - Shadow Ball



    Physical agililuke is poop, it cant hit hard enough against common switch ins =/.

    Lucario@Life Orb
    252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
    Modest Nature
    Trait : Inner Focus
    - Focus Blast
    - Shadow Ball
    - Hidden power Ice
    - Agility


    With sr support this is scary, 2hko's CALM Blissey with Focus Blast (without sr lol) and outruns timid max speed scarf Azelf after an agility ^__^ (And SR also helps with Gyarados stopping its sweep and what not.).

    You may use Aura Sphere >>F-Blast, however that will only 3hko blissey, the lack of power will be noticeable and i will call you for not having the guts to use the real mans option of Focus Blast =).



    yeah, just some things to consider here.
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    Sash Ape looks fine, I'll put it in. Since I decided to put Scarf Gar>> Kingdra, i'll put toxic in the last slot to inflict status(not counting hax, of course).

    Mixmence?... I guess so. Are there anyother mixed swepers, though, cuz my team is rlly weak to DD LO Gyara after my Gyara goes down. Electiv is a total waste of time, so maybe raicchu or somthing?

    Aura Sphere? Phsh. Thats for ppl who are too scared about hax and missing to add some powah.

    Changes will be made. However, I'm not sure about Mence yet, may replace it, so Ima leave it as ti is for now.
     
    K, I'll think about it, I was able to do some good testing out a porygon-2 vance helped me out with on shoddy, it didnt do to bad as a mixed.
     
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