Evolving ur pokemon-means changing its personality?

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    Do you remeber an episode in which Ashes pikachu didn't want to evolve(it was when Ash wanted to battle Surge in Vermilion city)? Or his bulbasaur? I think that was because both of his pokemon didn't want to change personaly-you know, they didn't want to change their personality(this might sound strange but still.XD). So what do you think? If you were a pokemon trainer how would you feel about evolving your pokemon and with it changing its personality? Imagine that you are very attached to a pokemon whose personality you really like. And than he evolves and becomes different(not only on the outside). Wouldn't you miss your old friend?
    I know that I would still be happy if my pokemon would evolve though that means that he or she would change. But if he/she wouldn't want to evolve I would be ok with that too. I belive that pokemon can still be stronger than its evolved form-if you use the right strategy and you train your pokemon hard there is no telling what things he or she can do or endure.
     
    Ash is very stubborn! If his quest is to become the greatest trainer ever, than he has to realize that at some point he must evolve his Pokemon so that they become stronger and more efficient. He needs to learn to put certain sentimental fundamentals (how do you like that rhyme?!) aside at the expense of improving the team! The way I see it, evolving your Pokemon doesn't change its personality, it ENHANCES it!
     
    Trainers should get used to it's new attitude, it may be mean at first..like Pikachu, but then it will somehow remember how it was before. I don't have anything against personality changes.
     
    The personalities of anyone and anything either take years to change/develop into something else, or don't change at all. I don't think the Pokemon whne they evolve have a personality change - their perception just changes, and the trainer's perception of them would broaden or change, but personality is still the same.
     
    Well, I mean having a strong tough macho pokemon isn't all in the poke world. I think if it evolves it becomes a whole new pokemon. My way to see it is if there is a Bulbasaur, when it becomes Ivysaur, there will be no trace of Bulbasaur in it, unless you count personallity being the same. Ash is moronic and contradicts himself in every episode. It just gets worse and worse, and more pathetic every show.
     
    well remember ash's charmander? It liked him then it evolved and would barely listen to ash.
     
    That's true. When Ash's Charmander evolved, it became more rebel. And when it evolved into Charizard...Really rebel xD
     
    Well, evolution is certainly a very significant change in the pokémon's life as it's a complete, and sometimes very radical, change of their body (Just think about a Remoraid evolving into Octillery, or Slakoth to Vigoroth :O) and sometimes also metabolism (A Vigoroth, for instance, has a far quicker one than Slakoth, same relation occurs with Abra (Which sleeps 18 hours a day) and Kadabra), and with these changes in the chemical reactions within the pokémon's body a personality change is certainly not out of question. It could certainly be quite sudden too. For instance, I'd imagine that a Vigoroth would get hyperactive very quickly, which is already a significant change from the very passive Slakoth stage. Also, a timid and withdrawn Magikarp could certainly start feeling like the king of the world when it suddenly realizes that it's about twice the size of its former bullies and has the power to wreck whole cities in a single tantrum. (Can we say 'payback time'?) xD

    Even though I hate to drag in the anime (As it seems to be getting more and more ridiculous and sloppily written with every episode .___.) in a debate, the case I mentioned above could also be related to Ash's Charmander gaining an attitude with evolution. He was originally abandoned for being weak, remember? I'd imagine that the newfound power of being a Charmeleon (And even moreso a Charizard) would make him want to be strong and independent, thus explaining the rebel attitude.

    Meh, just the way I see it, though. ^-^
     
    good point on the Magikarp! which tempts me to bring up Feebas. Now we all can agree Feebas is one ugly Pokemon and is fairly weak. But once its evolved into a Milotic, not only does it look so much purtier but it becomes easily one of the most powerful Pokes in the game! Kind of like kissing a frog and turning it into a prince!

    of course looks aren't everything, but it couldn't hurt to improve your image!
     
    Well, if I remember, did James have a Weepinbell? And then when it evolved in to Victreebel, didn't it begin to eat him every time he bought it out?
     
    yeah that was definately a change, but sometimes pokemon do not change, Ash's Treecko never really changed at all when it evolved into Grovyle/Sceptile or his Krabby, Phanpy or Pidgeotto, of course i could be wrong. But the way I see it, is sometimes pokemon change, sometimes they don't, or at least that is how it is in the show ^^;
     
    Darkralts7 said:
    yeah that was definately a change, but sometimes pokemon do not change, Ash's Treecko never really changed at all when it evolved into Grovyle/Sceptile or his Krabby, Phanpy or Pidgeotto, of course i could be wrong. But the way I see it, is sometimes pokemon change, sometimes they don't, or at least that is how it is in the show ^^;
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    Man I was gonna use the treecko thing! Haha, but that means it is a good point if more than one person thought of it.
    I think, that no matter how hard you try with a non-evolved pokemon, if someone with one that is evolved tries just as hard, you can't beat them. Unless you use drugs like protein, carbos, etc. But even then it's a slim chance.

    I don't think they change when they evolve. So I'm pro evolution ^.^
    But if I knew ahead of time that they'd change for sure, I wouldn't do it.
     
    When a pokémon evolves, he becomes stronger and all that stuff. So his perception changes (for example Ash's Charmander who thought that his trainer was not so good for him) as well as his personality. But it also depends of how he was BEFORE the evolution, just like Alter Ego said.

    So if I was a trainer, if one of my pokemon don't want to evolve, that would be OK for me. I don't want a pokémon who hate me because I've forced him.
     
    J Rauwd said:
    Now we all can agree Feebas is one ugly Pokemon and is fairly weak.
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    Don't make me smack you...<.<

    Believe it or not, there are actually plenty of people on these forums (myself included) who actually think that Feebas is both more beautiful and way more lovable than the scaly worm known as Milotic, so please refrain from making such insulting and baseless statements. Feebas need more love, yes they do. Are they weak? Yes. But they are still absolutely adorable and actually provide valuable assistance in several breeding chains, so don't dis them.

    Now if you want to talk ugly then pokémon don't get much uglier than the mutant freak you've depicted in quadruplicate in your avatar. But I digress, this is not a matter of appearance but of personality, yes? Yes it is.

    Anyway, I still maintain that the anime is a very bad source of examples because it has had a tendency to, quite frankly, suck lately, and both the writers and the dubbers have made some abbysmally stupid things to it over the years.

    BlackLabel-Atreyu said:
    Man I was gonna use the treecko thing! Haha, but that means it is a good point if more than one person thought of it.
    I think, that no matter how hard you try with a non-evolved pokemon, if someone with one that is evolved tries just as hard, you can't beat them. Unless you use drugs like protein, carbos, etc. But even then it's a slim chance.
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    Now that's a logical fallacy right there. Many people thinking something doesn't make it any more valid, you know. If it did, then the earth would be flat, wouldn't it? Don't make me bring in the proverb on a million flies and their opinions on what good food is like. xP

    Also, unevolved pokémon can certainly beat their evolved forms. Clamperl, for instance, can abuse Deepseatooth to gain the highest SAtk in the whole game (Exceeds Mewtwo's by 15, I think) and thus easily eliminate both Gorebyss and Huntail. There's also the small matter of strategy and skill. It doesn't matter how hard you try if you don't have a clue about what you're doing, so a more experienced trainer could easily beat an evolved pokémon with an unevolved one, especially if there's an experience difference between the two pokémon. Still, that is also kind of off-topic.

    Oh, and I'm pro-evolution in most cases (Feebas being an exception, I only evolve one for the pokédex), but I still maintain that it's quite valid to argue that it could cause personality change, as many pokémon actually have specific personality traits mentioned in their pokédex data (Such as Vigoroth and Primeape being depicted as aggressive and restless by nature, or Tailows being brave) and sometimes this clashes with that of their earlier form. (Again, I'm mainly pointing towards the examples of Magikarp and Slakoth here) So yeah, can't we all just be happy with personality change being a viable option? ^^
     
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    I don't want to go out off the topic but I just have to say that you should not discuss which pokemon is more beautiful (right Alter ego and J Rauwd?) and stuff like that, cuz people are different and have different opinions of pokemon. And by saying that a pokemon is ugly or sth you can easily insult somebody. So please respect each other.:) Btw I like both, Feebas and Deoxis.:P Oh, and thanks to all of you who posted here.:)
     
    ash needs to stop being a baby and FORCE his pokemon to evolve. i evolve my pokemon no matter what. it doesnt matter how uncute they become, i dont really give a hoot.
     
    i would ask the pokemon first before i evolved it then it all depends on, yes because mays pokemon personality changed too .

    remember torchic was so outspoken and couragoes more than anything.

    then combusken was just a laid back pokemon that dont take nothin from no body especially T.rocket

    now blaziken
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    raichuchika said:
    ash needs to stop being a baby and FORCE his pokemon to evolve. i evolve my pokemon no matter what. it doesnt matter how uncute they become, i dont really give a hoot.
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    And that's the diffrence between the games and the anime. In the game your pokemon can and will evolve when you met a certain objective (getting to a certain lvl, stones, trading). In the Anime its different, your pokemon evolve when its wants too. There are no lvl's, you could train it forever and still not get a pokemon to evolve. In the Anime the pokemon evolves when it wants to. You can't force a pokemon to evolve (unless you use a stone, and even then it might knock the stone away and run off). The pokemon feeling have to be taken into account, which is what Ash does.

    As for personality changes, it depends on the pokemon and its history, I guess.
     
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