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That's true, though most quickly fall victim to AAML pressures or simply the lack of characterization presented by the show. The only show-fics I generally read are magma/aqua ones, but I once read a quite good Ash and co. fic.
 
I know what you mean about the shippy pressure. I had one scene in Worlds Away with Officer Jenny showing sympathy to my main male character and someone that reviewed was like "WAS THAT A SHIPPY MOMENT?" It wasn't...at all, but I guess that's the stuff people want to read.
 
People are stupid.

Everyone pushes ONG ROMANCEEEEE!!!!one :D:D:D:D so much that when you actually write a ramantic scnene well, it is seriously looked down on.
 
It's not about the romance itself but the characters in question that get involved in the romance. It could be labled AAML but do nothing name dating Ash and Misty throughout the story yet have nothing to do with either charcters mind-sets as far as characterizations go.

So I guess it (romance) all comes down to that whole subjective thing for people.

Ha, though in ff.net mainly catagorized romance fics seem to be the only ones that seem to get any literal attention...
 
I don't see how is it suppose to be different between OC and canonical characters in terms of romance... Pokemon didn't establish any official relationship, making the romance section "it's free for all." Those who argue for AAM(i)L are rather biased and lacking in research to claim that it's the "official" shipping. As if Ash is smart enough to notice anything... too too dense. Most of the "hint" junk too are english only. They don't exist in japanese original... don't see what's the pressure in terms of romantic relationships in Pokemon fanfic.
 
I wrote a AAML romance fic, but I put up warnings when ever romance began to take place! Its under If I Could Change the World chapter 16 and I think 10, maybe its 9.

Question: I finished my first fic and I'm wondering whether I should post the sequal or this other story I wrote first. The other story is almost finished, but the sequal is not even half way.
 
No wonder I don't get many readers here :P considering I love using the canon characters - so long as it's not Ash and them. Unfortunately, I seem to inhabit a minority. What are the majorities, anyway - OC and romance?

I find though, that when most people say they hate 'the anime canon characters', they generally mean Ash, Misty, May, whatever. Most people don't even seem to consider the minor ones; but I love developing their characters, whether by using what little the anime presents to establish my own perception or using the game and manga to complement it - or even vise versa.

*cough* anyway. I expect no one to really pay attention to my little rant, so on to other business.

Question: I finished my first fic and I'm wondering whether I should post the sequal or this other story I wrote first. The other story is almost finished, but the sequal is not even half way.

Heh, I'm actually facing that problem myself - though my first fic is in no way nearing the end. You should ask your reviewers what they'd prefer to read, whether they want more on the same characters or something new. Then look at what you feel you want to post more - maybe you don't feel happy with the sequel, and want to give yourself time to fully work out all the kinks.
 
Okay, I've been holding this in for quite a while, and I think that now's a right time to say it.

I don't want to start any flaming. I just want 100% honest and reasonable opinions about this.

Now, the subject I have in mind whether or not Pokemon names, attacks, and the word itself should be capitalized.

I've read a lot of author advice threads and seen Frostweaver's reviews, and I pretty much seen that Pokemon names, attacks, and the word Pokemon should be capitalized. Hey, it's even shown in the official sources.

However, one of my beta readers (Act) said that this isn't the right way. Now, I read her fic, saw that it was FanFic of the week here, and yet she didn't capitalized the above at all, and no one complained about it. I'm not saying that people SHOULD complain about that, though. She really is a good author and really appears to know what she's talking about (at least in my eyes, seeing that quite a few authors see her as too harsh for her good when her points are quite valid).

Personally, I'm used to capitalizing Pokemon and the like. Still, I could adjust to Act's way of doing things, but I more or less need some official sources proving this. Again, no offense to Act and other authors. I'm just merely getting something off my chest and hoping I'm going in the right direction.
 
don't see what's the pressure in terms of romantic relationships in Pokemon fanfic.

Ah, to have never become involved in ff.net.

You have no idea... every single fic involving characters of opposite sexes gets those kind of reviews. Not just pokemon, and especially Harry Potter. (OMG they better get together! They will, right?)
 
Capitalization is a personal choice since you're dealing with a set of grammars regarding original creation. The game using block letters for these type of stuff don't really help either. Do what you're doing right now already and it'll be fine. If they do criticize you, then ask them what "official resources" do they have that supports their view, and it'll turn out to be none.

FFnet tries to assert pressure regardless of gender anyway (*cough*KH Sora-Riku*cough* =/ ). I wrote there long time ago, but then didn't pick up after I moved to High School. I still read there nowadays, and surprisingly all of my bookmarked writers usually rage back at those "pressure asserters" whenever they try to stir the plot themselves. To me, the good writers never seem to be affected by those people at all (GO J CAE GO!)
 
To me, the good writers never seem to be affected by those people at all

::nod:: That's true. It is annoying, nonetheless, and many authors will jump of a building at readers' request, even if they are good writers.
 
Neko, I personally am used to having pokemon names etc lowercase, and I've been told it should be otherwise. However, I see it as a matter of opinion; if you're used to writing in uppercase, then do so. There are good reasons to back each arguement, and no one should tell you which way is right.

many authors will jump of a building at readers' request,

I'd jump off it just for fun! ^.^

...as long as a I had a bungy rope <_<

This is very educational... considering I just started writing on ff.net. Unfortunately for any readers who want to stir up trouble, I can be very stubborn - especially when I'm being pushed to do something I don't want to do. In that case I'm nigh on immovable.

Still, it's nice to have a little forewarning; unfortunately those kind of readers exist wherever you go. There's always going to be people who would've done something differently to you. What's the bet if Harry Potter had begun as a fanfic, it would've been torn apart by 'well-meaning' reviewers. The main thing writers have to learn is to stick to their guns.

In a way, I guess that tells you who the real writers are. The real writers will continue their plot as they see fit, because they know the story they're telling best of everyone, whereas those who've just kinda... jumped on the bandwagon will try to please everyone, because they're in it for the reviews.

No offence nor implications intended to anyone.
 
What's the bet if Harry Potter had begun as a fanfic, it would've been torn apart by 'well-meaning' reviewers.

That's because Harry Potter is crap. ::dodges gunfire:: Yeah, I said it. What now?!

The real writers will continue their plot as they see fit, because they know the story they're telling best of everyone, whereas those who've just kinda... jumped on the bandwagon will try to please everyone

The interesting thing about writing for yourself it that is begins to become as argument for badficcers, who pull out the old, whiny, "It's only fanfiction, it doesn't matter, I'll write however I want. It's just for fun."

Can't you just see someone with this theory rock-climbing? "Oh, we don't have to correctly secure the ropes, this is just for fun!" Or sports, "No, I'll never be a professional athlete so I don't have to take high school sports seriously." Or "I'm not going to be a pro chef, so who gives if this thing I'm serving to my friends is crap!"

It goes on o.o;;
 
That's because Harry Potter is crap. ::dodges gunfire:: Yeah, I said it. What now?!

Heh, one of my closest friends would agree. Eh, can't be bothered arguing... I've learned that getting into debates about whether Harry Potter/LotR is good is just about suicide... well, for me, anyhow...

The interesting thing about writing for yourself it that is begins to become as argument for badficcers, who pull out the old, whiny, "It's only fanfiction, it doesn't matter, I'll write however I want. It's just for fun."

You've got a point there; but I never said that real writers write for themselves. Actually, I don't think I said what true writers write for at all... I believe that true writers write for the sake of the story, not for themselves, and not for the reviews.

Can't you just see someone with this theory rock-climbing? "Oh, we don't have to correctly secure the ropes, this is just for fun!"

I like that. You should use that parallel on the next badficcer who abuses you.
 
That's because Harry Potter is crap. ::dodges gunfire:: Yeah, I said it. What now?!
I just the fandom behind it and how everyone treats J.K Rowling like she's the most creative and brilliant person on the planet. :) Other than that, they're pretty good books. I don't have antything against Harry Potter itself really.

So uh, why was I here again? *thinks, feels stupid, then stops* Oh yeah. Fanfiction usually does start to get out your ideas so your head doesn't explode (heh, for me anyways) and to have fun, but if it were just "for fun," then you wouldn't of bothered to post it on forums.
 
@ Whirl Island Adventure (continued), IceKing

Julie watched Cianwood slowly get smaller and smaller
again, the 2 verb problem...

-it's completely ok to say that Sunkern has a high def although its total stats is the absolute worst in the game (below Caterpie and Magikarp). However, a "shell" is kinda pushing it... that's like mutating its actual physical appearance... perhaps you're looking for "coating?"

-odd grammar mistakes continue to fly throughout the rest of the story... missing periods, or using the wrong articles ("the" vs "a")

-short paragraphs are always odd when they can be longer. Try combining some paragraphs, especially the battle scenes. They're all related, so they share the same content, qualifying them to be the same paragraphs.

-the Drowzee dream eating scene with Greg can use some expanding and further detail... right now it's really short and really confusing. No point of humor when no one understands it, hm?

She then...
It's almost always "Then, she..." instead. "She then" is only used orally, or dialogues. Narrators can never use "She then..."

-the struggle part doesn't make too much sense actually... in terms of game respective, there's still tons of PP left for constrict. In terms of the anime, you can't run out of moves either, but you can get too tired to do any attacks (Skarmory episode.) It's ok to use struggle, but the reason for struggle given by Julie doesn't make much sense here.

-watch out if your author's note is revealing the story... You shouldn't need to say things like "second plot is revealed later" or anything like that. Let your reader read on to find out.

-Brian's falling behind quickly in character development as the party leave Cianwood. Julie and Greg are going on, while Brian doesn't have much special traits. Character development should be done simultaneously, and not let one character fall behind or so.

-though battle scenes have room for improvement, they're pretty well done. The only problem is that the strategies are really obvious. It's not hard to predict the outcome of the first two battles regarding Jigglypuff/Machop, and Sunkern/Tangela. I slipped in prediction regarding Tangela's 2nd match though, but then I already mentioned my problems with that battle involving struggle. I Thought that Tangela will win again.

-now this is a creativity thing... some fanfic writers treat vine whip as a physical attack instead of a grass move, which is fine seeing how the attack works. It seems to be the case here regarding Tangela's taunt at Sunkern. If you have indeed treated Vine Whip as physical attacks, then you may have to give off more hints about it. There are ways to use your descriptions so that vine whip sounds "more physical" than "grass." Some may view the vine whip problem with Tangela/Tangela's taunt to be a plot loophole.

(syntax- the ordering of words in a sentence, part of sentence structure. Syntax affects how a sentence flow, and good usage of syntax throughout the entire story has a direct effect on how smooth the entire story is. Generally, the less words you used, the better your syntax. Like connotations, there's no definitive laws to syntax, but it's rather if it sounds "awkward to you." Some words sound strange although the definition makes sense. Some ordering of words sound strange although it is grammatically correct. That is syntax.)

-Character development exist, but isn't spectacular... To push the fanfic into the 90, your character development cannot simply be the stereotypical ones (One being smart, one being stupid, and the last one being the in-between on the intelligence range. Characters, including the minor ones, in this fanfic really reminds me of Harry Potter.) in order to be outstanding. So far the characters have only one trait (Greg having 2, which is to be Misty-obsessive), which isn't enough to be too interesting as well.

Good Points
-good battle scenes
-relatively original for OT

Focuses to Improve On
-Grammar
-Syntax
-Brian's character development

Title: 3/5
Grammar Basics: 8/10
Coherence/Readability: 10/10
Characterization: 15/20
Story Structure: 11/15
Tone/Atmosphere: 11/15
Diction: 14/20
Effort/Originality: 13/15
Lit. Device bonus: +1 (anecdote)


total: 86

Well done =D


(as for other reviews... I'll *eventually* get to them >> *throws Hamlet towards the wall*)
 
*picks up Hamlet, dusts it off, and cries*

You play abuser. >.>;
 
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