Fire/Flying Gym Team

Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
Stone edge doesn't get you recoil damage :/

Mence IS flying type...and kingdra isn't 4x weak to ice for the record.

You're gonna need walls to survive. Really though, rapidash needs to be replaced. If you refuse, fine, but at least get rid of horn drill...
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Recoil Time... Not Damage. The priority time that a move has... I know Stone Edge doesn't have Recoil Damage. I just got caught out there last night trying to win with my first Speed Wall with Stone edge, I wasn't fast enough and the timing was off after the first stone edge....

The thing I do to revolutionize the battle and the challenges... I love it.

At least someone agrees with the removal of the drill
 
Lol, what do all these cbmence codenames mean? Like I said i'm new to all this stuff, I've been playing for years and training and what not - I only learnt what EVS were two weeks ago lol, been up most nights till 3 ever since.
 
Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
Lol, what do all these cbmence codenames mean? Like I said i'm new to all this stuff, I've been playing for years and training and what not - I only learnt what EVS were two weeks ago lol, been up most nights till 3 ever since.
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Mence is Salamence

Speed Tank is a pokemon that can Take hits and outrun you....

If you need anymore help, PM me or ask around, I'm sure someone will help out!
 
Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
Lol, what do all these cbmence codenames mean? Like I said i'm new to all this stuff, I've been playing for years and training and what not - I only learnt what EVS were two weeks ago lol, been up most nights till 3 ever since.
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CBmence is salamence with a choice band. It has unparraleled attack power IMO. Only a sleep talk CB heracross really does more damage, but Mence is faster.
 
Scizor
Brave Nature
Technician
Item Slot: Life Orb
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Defence

X-Scissor
Night Slash
Air Slash
Swords Dance

Gyarados
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
Item Slot: King's Rock
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 HP Speed

Ice Fang
Stone Edge
Aqua Tail
Earthquake

Blaziken
Naughty Nature
Blaze
Item Slot: Razor Claw
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

Brave Bird
Flare Blitz
Night Slash
Sky Uppercut

Charizard
Quiet Nature
Blaze
Item Slot: Heat Rock
EVS: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed

Flamethrower
Air Slash
Sunny Day
Solarbeam

Staraptor
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
Item Slot:
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

Close Combat
Aerial Ace
Brave Bird
U-Turn

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Revised team, unless I missed anything?

The choices for the sixth slot now are:

Xatu
Salamence
 
Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
Scizor
Brave Nature
Technician
Item Slot: Life Orb
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Defence

X-Scissor
Night Slash
Air Slash
Swords Dance

Gyarados
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
Item Slot: King's Rock
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 HP Speed

Ice Fang
Stone Edge
Aqua Tail
Earthquake

Blaziken
Naughty Nature
Blaze
Item Slot: Razor Claw
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

Brave Bird
Flare Blitz
Night Slash
Sky Uppercut

Charizard
Quiet Nature
Blaze
Item Slot: Heat Rock
EVS: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed

Flamethrower
Air Slash
Sunny Day
Solarbeam

Staraptor
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
Item Slot:
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

Close Combat
Aerial Ace
Brave Bird
U-Turn

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Revised team, unless I missed anything?

The choices for the sixth slot now are:

Xatu
Salamence
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Mence over Xa...

Looking at the list, looks good in my book. Let's wait for the others though, they actually might have other views on that.....
 
Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
Scizor
Brave Nature
Technician
Item Slot: Life Orb
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Defence

X-Scissor
Night Slash
Air Slash
Swords Dance

Did you even read our posts? Air slash was a mistake, eh? And those EVs aren't good :/ Needs more HP.

Gyarados
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
Item Slot: King's Rock
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 HP Speed

Ice Fang
Stone Edge
Aqua Tail
Earthquake

USE THE STANDARD! That is a terrible set. Really, just use the standard...and those EVs make it tough for it to survive. King's rock is a hax item...and is banned :/

Blaziken
Naughty Nature
Blaze
Item Slot: Razor Claw
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

Brave Bird
Flare Blitz
Night Slash
Sky Uppercut

More hax items? You whine about sky uppercut, and then don't even change it? Wow...

Charizard
Quiet Nature
Blaze
Item Slot: Heat Rock
EVS: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed

Flamethrower
Air Slash
Sunny Day
Solarbeam

Sunnybeaming...FAILS.

Staraptor
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
Item Slot:
EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

Close Combat
Aerial Ace
Brave Bird
U-Turn

Brave bird AND Aerial ace? Double edge people...

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Revised team, unless I missed anything?

The choices for the sixth slot now are:

Xatu
Salamence
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Mence>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xatu. Did you even bother readinbg my posts? those sets are still very poor.

EDIT: Not to mention you STILL have no walls...
 
Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
Mence>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xatu. Did you even bother readinbg my posts? those sets are still very poor.
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This post, is an understatement.

Salamence @ Choice Scarf/Specs
Trait: Intimidate
Modest/Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Hydro Pump
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse. For reason I like Salamence with Choice Scarf instead of the usual Specs.
 
Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
Mence>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xatu. Did you even bother readinbg my posts? those sets are still very poor.

EDIT: Not to mention you STILL have no walls...
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Have to agree there, after looking at the modified moves... Wow... Nuff said..

More to come....
 
Itachi 2007 said:
This post, is an understatement.

Salamence @ Choice Scarf/Specs
Trait: Intimidate
Modest/Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Hydro Pump
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse. For reason I like Salamence with Choice Scarf instead of the usual Specs.
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Really though, Mence with scarf is outclassed by Scarfchomp...but really, I firmly believe CBmence is better...
 
Very well, CBsalamence it is then; I'll go dig for another heart scale to give Staraptor Double Edge, and you'll have to forgive me - I thought Hax meant hacked - traded from another game/multiple? How can King's Rock etc be hax? *Stomps off to find a Bagon.*
 
Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
Very well, CBsalamence it is then; I'll go dig for another heart scale to give Staraptor Double Edge, and you'll have to forgive me - I thought Hax meant hacked - traded from another game/multiple? How can King's Rock etc be hax? *Stomps off to find a Bagon.*
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Do you even know what hax is? King's rock just uses luck...no skill. It's a n00b item...NEVER USE.

Why didn't you even bother to read what I said?

EDIT: Itachi, how is a STABed, life orb/CB powered, 120 base power move useless on staraptor?
 
Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
EDIT: Itachi, how is a STABed, life orb/CB powered, 120 base power move useless on staraptor?
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Doesn't Staraptor already have a STABed, life orb/CB powered 120 base power move in the form of Brave Bird? I don't think Staraptor really needs two of the same thing.
 
Not to mention it is less useful typewise, okay, Double-Edge goes - i'll use the heartscale on Blaziken then - as for 'hax' items?

Poor excuse for people who can't deal with the items given for use in the game.
 
airconditioning said:
Doesn't Staraptor already have a STABed, life orb/CB powered 120 base power move in the form of Brave Bird? I don't think Staraptor really needs two of the same thing.
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Maybe so, but it is a strong STABed attack. Return can always be used if you dislike recoil. Meh, what do I know...
 
Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
Poor excuse for people who can't deal with the items given for use in the game.
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Actually, it's because they're unreliable, and therefore a waste of space. Trust me, that's how every newbie reacts when they find out about hax items. Hell, I said the exact same thing when I first heard about this.
 
Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
Not to mention it is less useful typewise, okay, Double-Edge goes - i'll use the heartscale on Blaziken then - as for 'hax' items?

Poor excuse for people who can't deal with the items given for use in the game.
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IT's because they rely on luck and only n00bs use them. You win with skill, not luck...good players do anyways :/
 
For a wall you can use torkoal or atleast weezing with fire blast.
 
Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
Rapidash
Timid Nature
Flash Fire
Item Slot: Undecided
EVS: (When I get around to doing it...252 Speed, 252 Attack.)

Flare Blitz
Hypnosis
Horn Drill
Bounce

Bounce has to be there for the flying requirement, and it took alot of effort to get Hypnosis and Horn Drill on one...>.<
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1) OHKO moves fail
2) Hp [flying]>bounce
2 turn moves fail also
 
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