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Fire/Flying Gym Team

Raziel_X007223

Prof Raziel... In your Face!!
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    Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
    Stone edge doesn't get you recoil damage :/

    Mence IS flying type...and kingdra isn't 4x weak to ice for the record.

    You're gonna need walls to survive. Really though, rapidash needs to be replaced. If you refuse, fine, but at least get rid of horn drill...
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    Recoil Time... Not Damage. The priority time that a move has... I know Stone Edge doesn't have Recoil Damage. I just got caught out there last night trying to win with my first Speed Wall with Stone edge, I wasn't fast enough and the timing was off after the first stone edge....

    The thing I do to revolutionize the battle and the challenges... I love it.

    At least someone agrees with the removal of the drill
     

    Shamfrit-The-Scorched

    Pokemon Psychologist
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    Lol, what do all these cbmence codenames mean? Like I said i'm new to all this stuff, I've been playing for years and training and what not - I only learnt what EVS were two weeks ago lol, been up most nights till 3 ever since.
     

    Raziel_X007223

    Prof Raziel... In your Face!!
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    Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
    Lol, what do all these cbmence codenames mean? Like I said i'm new to all this stuff, I've been playing for years and training and what not - I only learnt what EVS were two weeks ago lol, been up most nights till 3 ever since.
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    Mence is Salamence

    Speed Tank is a pokemon that can Take hits and outrun you....

    If you need anymore help, PM me or ask around, I'm sure someone will help out!
     
    Anti

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    return of the king
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    Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
    Lol, what do all these cbmence codenames mean? Like I said i'm new to all this stuff, I've been playing for years and training and what not - I only learnt what EVS were two weeks ago lol, been up most nights till 3 ever since.
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    CBmence is salamence with a choice band. It has unparraleled attack power IMO. Only a sleep talk CB heracross really does more damage, but Mence is faster.
     

    Shamfrit-The-Scorched

    Pokemon Psychologist
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    Scizor
    Brave Nature
    Technician
    Item Slot: Life Orb
    EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Defence

    X-Scissor
    Night Slash
    Air Slash
    Swords Dance

    Gyarados
    Adamant Nature
    Intimidate
    Item Slot: King's Rock
    EVS: 252 Attack, 252 HP Speed

    Ice Fang
    Stone Edge
    Aqua Tail
    Earthquake

    Blaziken
    Naughty Nature
    Blaze
    Item Slot: Razor Claw
    EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

    Brave Bird
    Flare Blitz
    Night Slash
    Sky Uppercut

    Charizard
    Quiet Nature
    Blaze
    Item Slot: Heat Rock
    EVS: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed

    Flamethrower
    Air Slash
    Sunny Day
    Solarbeam

    Staraptor
    Adamant Nature
    Intimidate
    Item Slot:
    EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

    Close Combat
    Aerial Ace
    Brave Bird
    U-Turn

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    Revised team, unless I missed anything?

    The choices for the sixth slot now are:

    Xatu
    Salamence
     

    Raziel_X007223

    Prof Raziel... In your Face!!
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    Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
    Scizor
    Brave Nature
    Technician
    Item Slot: Life Orb
    EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Defence

    X-Scissor
    Night Slash
    Air Slash
    Swords Dance

    Gyarados
    Adamant Nature
    Intimidate
    Item Slot: King's Rock
    EVS: 252 Attack, 252 HP Speed

    Ice Fang
    Stone Edge
    Aqua Tail
    Earthquake

    Blaziken
    Naughty Nature
    Blaze
    Item Slot: Razor Claw
    EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

    Brave Bird
    Flare Blitz
    Night Slash
    Sky Uppercut

    Charizard
    Quiet Nature
    Blaze
    Item Slot: Heat Rock
    EVS: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed

    Flamethrower
    Air Slash
    Sunny Day
    Solarbeam

    Staraptor
    Adamant Nature
    Intimidate
    Item Slot:
    EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

    Close Combat
    Aerial Ace
    Brave Bird
    U-Turn

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    Revised team, unless I missed anything?

    The choices for the sixth slot now are:

    Xatu
    Salamence
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    Mence over Xa...

    Looking at the list, looks good in my book. Let's wait for the others though, they actually might have other views on that.....
     
    Anti

    Anti

    return of the king
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    Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
    Scizor
    Brave Nature
    Technician
    Item Slot: Life Orb
    EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Defence

    X-Scissor
    Night Slash
    Air Slash
    Swords Dance

    Did you even read our posts? Air slash was a mistake, eh? And those EVs aren't good :/ Needs more HP.

    Gyarados
    Adamant Nature
    Intimidate
    Item Slot: King's Rock
    EVS: 252 Attack, 252 HP Speed

    Ice Fang
    Stone Edge
    Aqua Tail
    Earthquake

    USE THE STANDARD! That is a terrible set. Really, just use the standard...and those EVs make it tough for it to survive. King's rock is a hax item...and is banned :/

    Blaziken
    Naughty Nature
    Blaze
    Item Slot: Razor Claw
    EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

    Brave Bird
    Flare Blitz
    Night Slash
    Sky Uppercut

    More hax items? You whine about sky uppercut, and then don't even change it? Wow...

    Charizard
    Quiet Nature
    Blaze
    Item Slot: Heat Rock
    EVS: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed

    Flamethrower
    Air Slash
    Sunny Day
    Solarbeam

    Sunnybeaming...FAILS.

    Staraptor
    Adamant Nature
    Intimidate
    Item Slot:
    EVS: 252 Attack, 252 Speed

    Close Combat
    Aerial Ace
    Brave Bird
    U-Turn

    Brave bird AND Aerial ace? Double edge people...

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    Revised team, unless I missed anything?

    The choices for the sixth slot now are:

    Xatu
    Salamence
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    Mence>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xatu. Did you even bother readinbg my posts? those sets are still very poor.

    EDIT: Not to mention you STILL have no walls...
     
    Sora_8920

    Sora_8920

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    Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
    Mence>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xatu. Did you even bother readinbg my posts? those sets are still very poor.
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    This post, is an understatement.

    Salamence @ Choice Scarf/Specs
    Trait: Intimidate
    Modest/Timid Nature
    - Flamethrower
    - Hydro Pump
    - Draco Meteor
    - Dragon Pulse. For reason I like Salamence with Choice Scarf instead of the usual Specs.
     
    Anti

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    return of the king
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    Itachi 2007 said:
    This post, is an understatement.

    Salamence @ Choice Scarf/Specs
    Trait: Intimidate
    Modest/Timid Nature
    - Flamethrower
    - Hydro Pump
    - Draco Meteor
    - Dragon Pulse. For reason I like Salamence with Choice Scarf instead of the usual Specs.
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    Really though, Mence with scarf is outclassed by Scarfchomp...but really, I firmly believe CBmence is better...
     

    Shamfrit-The-Scorched

    Pokemon Psychologist
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    Very well, CBsalamence it is then; I'll go dig for another heart scale to give Staraptor Double Edge, and you'll have to forgive me - I thought Hax meant hacked - traded from another game/multiple? How can King's Rock etc be hax? *Stomps off to find a Bagon.*
     
    Anti

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    return of the king
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    Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
    Very well, CBsalamence it is then; I'll go dig for another heart scale to give Staraptor Double Edge, and you'll have to forgive me - I thought Hax meant hacked - traded from another game/multiple? How can King's Rock etc be hax? *Stomps off to find a Bagon.*
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    Do you even know what hax is? King's rock just uses luck...no skill. It's a n00b item...NEVER USE.

    Why didn't you even bother to read what I said?

    EDIT: Itachi, how is a STABed, life orb/CB powered, 120 base power move useless on staraptor?
     

    Shamfrit-The-Scorched

    Pokemon Psychologist
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    Not to mention it is less useful typewise, okay, Double-Edge goes - i'll use the heartscale on Blaziken then - as for 'hax' items?

    Poor excuse for people who can't deal with the items given for use in the game.
     
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    airconditioning said:
    Doesn't Staraptor already have a STABed, life orb/CB powered 120 base power move in the form of Brave Bird? I don't think Staraptor really needs two of the same thing.
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    Maybe so, but it is a strong STABed attack. Return can always be used if you dislike recoil. Meh, what do I know...
     
    Anti

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    Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
    Not to mention it is less useful typewise, okay, Double-Edge goes - i'll use the heartscale on Blaziken then - as for 'hax' items?

    Poor excuse for people who can't deal with the items given for use in the game.
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    IT's because they rely on luck and only n00bs use them. You win with skill, not luck...good players do anyways :/
     

    boo836

    I'm back?
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    For a wall you can use torkoal or atleast weezing with fire blast.
     

    J-Rad

    In ur comp h4xing ur interwebz
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    Shamfrit-The-Scorched said:
    Rapidash
    Timid Nature
    Flash Fire
    Item Slot: Undecided
    EVS: (When I get around to doing it...252 Speed, 252 Attack.)

    Flare Blitz
    Hypnosis
    Horn Drill
    Bounce

    Bounce has to be there for the flying requirement, and it took alot of effort to get Hypnosis and Horn Drill on one...>.<
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    1) OHKO moves fail
    2) Hp [flying]>bounce
    2 turn moves fail also
     
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