Firefox 3.5 will be released on June 30th

Adblock exists for both Chrome and Safari; and the Safari Component actually uses the Adblock Plus filter lists. All the others you list are much of a muchness; especially DowntheMall which many server administrators despise for being aggressive. And blah blah blah, excuses excuses. If you can't adhere to web standards, don't make a web browser. Pretty simple. If you can't get 100/100 on Acid3, STOP PROMOTING YOUR NON-COMPLIANT BROWSER.
No browser is completely compliant with every existing web standard, certainly not Safari. Acid3 is just a small set of tests (many of which were written specifically to break Firefox) that are meant to measure compliance with some standards. It's definitely not a de-facto tool to judge whether a browser is or is not standards compliant.

Regardless, I disagree with the very idea of the Acid3 test; finding a few ways a browser mistakenly implements a standard means next to nothing, especially when the developers start fixing that small subset of bugs you've found (instead of fixing larger problems relating to the standard in question). I have more respect for browser developers, like Firefox's and Konqueror's, who aren't focusing specifically on fixing the bugs found in Acid3; than for those teams who have been scrambling to fix Acid3 bugs so they can market their browser to anyone who's heard of the test (and, in turn, anyone they market it to).

And those administrators shouldn't complain about DTA's aggressiveness if they aren't providing a similar functionality on their sites. If I'm forced to go out and grab an addon for a functionality your site should already have, you've no right to complain about it being too aggressive.
 
>many of which were written specifically to break Firefox

Stopped reading.
 
Bugs maybe?

When I got it I realized, I cannot right click on images and get a list of options. Nothing appears. D:<

Also..

We all know Mozilla has a built in spell check, well, when I spell a word wrong (I.E. word as wrod.) I cannot get a list of options when I right click, nothing at all happens when I right click.

However for other things in the browser right-clicking works perfectly fine. :|

And no, this isn't a "PLEASE HELP ME" post, it's just a post saying that there may be some..not-very-pleasing bugs.
 
no FireFox 3.5 update (yet) for me.. as I need for the firebug plugin to be updated first before I make my move. Once its been updated I see no reasons not to up to the latest ver.

all this standards hype is just that - hype. True one day it'll make sense, but right now, no.. not until M$ crap code is purged from the web and websites use PROPER, compliant HTML markup.
 
>many of which were written specifically to break Firefox

Stopped reading.
https://acid3.acidtests.org/competition/
Uh huh.

EDIT: Acidtests site is down right now. Here's the relevant text:
The test must fail (throw an exception) in either a Firefox trunk build from January 2008 or a Webkit trunk build from January 2008 (or, ideally, both).
IIRC, the contest block consisted of 20% of the test, and many of the tests that were accepted into it were written specifically to break Firefox. Admittedly, others were written specifically to break Safari/Webkit, but that wasn't my point. The point was that Acid3 is a handful of tests that some developers rushed to fix to make their browser look better. If you want an analogy, Firefox is actually learning the test material, while the other children are memorizing answers.
 
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no FireFox 3.5 update (yet) for me.. as I need for the firebug plugin to be updated first before I make my move. Once its been updated I see no reasons not to up to the latest ver.

all this standards hype is just that - hype. True one day it'll make sense, but right now, no.. not until M$ crap code is purged from the web and websites use PROPER, compliant HTML markup.

It has been updated, it'll update as soon as you install it.

Anyway, I like it. It's fast, all my extensions work, familiar browser experience, it's not Opera or Safari, etc etc.
 
firebug is updated? hmm k i'll up to ff3.5 then

edit: no major issues with updating yet.. time will tell the whole story

edit 2: OK looks like some .png rendering issues have cropped up.. the color's are not the same.. hopefully they'll fix it. example: the header in PC's midnight misty theme no longer matches. (fixed)
 
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Meh, it sounds good. I'll probably switch to it when I go back home. I'm in an LO. ;_;
 
Argh! You really take right-clicking grantid (I know that is spelled wrong but thanks to Mozilla I can't fix it! D:<) Almost nothing works when that involves right clicking. Only things that aren't part of the webpage (URL bar, tab toolbar..) I can't paste, I can't copy..I have to use the ctrl+c shortcut for copying and v for pasting. :| I cant save images in PNG, I have to drag-and-drop in which they end up in JPEG format, or print-screen then cut it out so I can save it as PNG. :| It really is more annoying than it sounds. Die Firefox 3.5! Better get fixed soon! And if they did this on purpose, screw FireFox, I am going to Chrome.
 
Argh! You really take right-clicking grantid (I know that is spelled wrong but thanks to Mozilla I can't fix it! D:<) Almost nothing works when that involves right clicking. Only things that aren't part of the webpage (URL bar, tab toolbar..) I can't paste, I can't copy..I have to use the ctrl+c shortcut for copying and v for pasting. :| I cant save images in PNG, I have to drag-and-drop in which they end up in JPEG format, or print-screen then cut it out so I can save it as PNG. :| It really is more annoying than it sounds. Die Firefox 3.5! Better get fixed soon! And if they did this on purpose, screw FireFox, I am going to Chrome.

What? That makes no sense. Right-click works fine for me, and you shouldn't need spell-check for a word like "granted."

Maybe your mouse is just broken dude :P
 
What? That makes no sense. Right-click works fine for me, and you shouldn't need spell-check for a word like "granted."

Maybe your mouse is just broken dude :P
Hey, don't yell at me (I know you're not, really.) English is my worst language (and first.) It's kind of strange for me, I have perfect spelling in every language I am learning, even words I have just heard once and never seen spelled, but for some reason I just have problems in English. O.o;

Like I said in the quote though, right-clicking works everywhere else except on webpages. All webpages for instance. I can't do it on Youtube, Google, PC, Serebii, ICHC, you name it. It all started as soon as I got 3.5 too. I will re-install. :| Firefox, you sneaky..fox. LOL SEE WHAT I DID THERE? It was fail, right? D:
 
Hey, don't yell at me (I know you're not, really.) English is my worst language (and first.) It's kind of strange for me, I have perfect spelling in every language I am learning, even words I have just heard once and never seen spelled, but for some reason I just have problems in English. O.o;

Like I said in the quote though, right-clicking works everywhere else except on webpages. All webpages for instance. I can't do it on Youtube, Google, PC, Serebii, ICHC, you name it. It all started as soon as I got 3.5 too. I will re-install. :| Firefox, you sneaky..fox. LOL SEE WHAT I DID THERE? It was fail, right? D:
hahaha, well English is a ridiculous language.

Um, well then chances are it's one of your add-ons. Start Firefox in safe mode and check that way. This thread on the Mozilla forums should help.
 
It looks like you're the only one with this particular problem, but it's worth noting that Serebii has disabled right-clicking on their web pages. It's always been like this.

For the record, guys, if there's any add-ons that haven't been updated, you can always try using Nightly Tester Tools, an addon which allows you to force Firefox to use another addon with a lower supported version number; ie. Lets you use old addons.

Actually, with regards to the Opera thing, I can see where you're coming from, cloud.CONNECTED. They're trying to give everyone an equal share in the market, which is noble. The problem here, is that I can't see why they shouldn't be allowed to bundle their own browser with their own operating system. I realise that it's a pathetic browser, but it's part of the software suite that the user is paying for. You don't see anyone complaining that Microsoft includes Notepad with Windows when there are much better options out there. At the end of the day, the better approach would just be to encourage users to look around for other alternatives.
 
It looks like you're the only one with this particular problem, but it's worth noting that Serebii has disabled right-clicking on their web pages. It's always been like this.
Serebii as in Serebiiforums. :| See what assuming did for you? Assuming must not like you. ;~;

And don't go "Well you said Serebii!" You know why? Because I thought people would have enough sense to realize "Well he said Serebii, but he also said it only started when 3.5 was downloaded (which came out today.) So it must be SPPF not SPP.

But yeah, oh joy, the problem is back. Must be something with my computer, maybe a virus? Psh, oh well I could care less, I am getting a new one in a few days and I have no sensitive information on my computer except for an old debit card number (I got a new one, expiration date passed.) Besides my problem, there are no real problems for me. Although, I do not see a real difference between 3.5 and the earlier one, however I do understand that this one has a built in video player so you don't have to get Adobe Flash, if I do recall currectly. I might have read wrong. :| Now I have to look up how to fix the "Farsi/Arabic/etc letters not connecting" problem. Which if I do understand is quite common and easily fixable. Oh well, I recommend it.
 
It looks like you're the only one with this particular problem, but it's worth noting that Serebii has disabled right-clicking on their web pages. It's always been like this.

For the record, guys, if there's any add-ons that haven't been updated, you can always try using Nightly Tester Tools, an addon which allows you to force Firefox to use another addon with a lower supported version number; ie. Lets you use old addons.

Actually, with regards to the Opera thing, I can see where you're coming from, cloud.CONNECTED. They're trying to give everyone an equal share in the market, which is noble. The problem here, is that I can't see why they shouldn't be allowed to bundle their own browser with their own operating system. I realise that it's a pathetic browser, but it's part of the software suite that the user is paying for. You don't see anyone complaining that Microsoft includes Notepad with Windows when there are much better options out there. At the end of the day, the better approach would just be to encourage users to look around for other alternatives.
Imagine the shitstorm that would ensure from say..OpenOffice.org if Windows shipped with Microsoft Office by default? :)
 
Imagine the shitstorm that would ensure from say..OpenOffice.org if Windows shipped with Microsoft Office by default? :)
I think OpenOffice.org would have some balls and man up. Apple should also be included in this law suit that's happening. Don't want to force people to use safari by default ;3

I also noticed that there's no themes for 3.5 D: and I really can't be bothered using persona since it usually fails for using the persona theme for me
 
Gee... I can't use my AVG add-on, ScrapBook add-on and the FoxKeh Theme anymore... :\
But, oh well... *updates Firefox*

Mozilla Firefox 3.5 Release Notes said:
Themes will be disabled until Firefox 3.5 determines that either a) they are compatible with the Firefox 3.5 release or b) there are newer versions available that are compatible.

^Aww... I guess no themes for now.
 
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It looks like you're the only one with this particular problem, but it's worth noting that Serebii has disabled right-clicking on their web pages. It's always been like this.

It's also hilariously easy to disable this in Firefox and Opera. :D (Don't know about Safari or Chrome, and screw IE.)

I'm also super-super-lazy about updates (I'd rather click Ask me later than Yes, though) and hesitant to update stuff generally, so I'll probably keep running Firefox 3.0.11 for ages. :x

I don't see any real pressing issue with IE being bundled with Windows, personally, but I definitely agree that the initiative to have a choice presented instead of monopolising the market (and, I might add, therefore hindering web development because of IE's shitty compliance ((yes, I use Firefox so I can't really complain, but whatever))) is a huge step forward~~ Having multiple browsers bundled with Windows might actually confuse new computer owners (I guess .-. 'WHICH ONE DO I PICK??!') but would be a huge help to the market and a progressive move. I don't see IE as part of what I pay for when I install a Windows OS on any of my systems. It's something that is forced on me, and worst of all, I cannot actually get rid of due to a number of other application's semi-reliance on IE. If more browsers were distributed with Windows, I really feel a lot of emphasis would be taken off IE, which is probably bad for Microsoft, but it's great for everyone else—it will encourage compatibility barriers to fall and also promote a market that needs to continue to develop healthily. This is probably pretty incoherent. *yawn*
 
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