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First competitive team

Bellum

I'm Rin. Rin Okumura.
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  • Hey fellow PC users (:
    I have never done competetive battling in any pokemon game before, and decided I would like to try and get into it.
    I have a rough idea of what pokemon I would like in my team. I have decided:

    Chandelure
    Scizor
    Roserade
    Haxorus (I got a Japanese Haxorus through WT so will be breeding for a Shiny with perfect IVs and ability)
    Electivire
    Blissey

    If anyone could give me feedback on my team choice, that would be awesome. If you want to know my chosen Nature's, abilities and EVs, for each pokemon, just say and I shall post them (:
    Also outline any big weaknesses my team may have so I can build upon them and adjust my team Accordingly.

    Thanks in advance ^_^
     

    Polar Spectrum

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  • Hey fellow PC users (:
    I have never done competetive battling in any pokemon game before, and decided I would like to try and get into it.
    I have a rough idea of what pokemon I would like in my team. I have decided:

    Chandelure
    Scizor
    Roserade
    Haxorus (I got a Japanese Haxorus through WT so will be breeding for a Shiny with perfect IVs and ability)
    Electivire
    Blissey

    If anyone could give me feedback on my team choice, that would be awesome. If you want to know my chosen Nature's, abilities and EVs, for each pokemon, just say and I shall post them (:
    Also outline any big weaknesses my team may have so I can build upon them and adjust my team Accordingly.

    Thanks in advance ^_^

    Heloooo, Blue exorcist fan person. :3 Team looks pretty neat already from what I can tell, post them sets though, how you play a pokemon and what you put into it is really what makes or breaks it in battle. Only things I can think of, are do you have something that can take a really heavy physical beating, and do you have anything to handle ghosts outside of Chandelure? (Cuz, y'know. Ghost weak to ghost.)
     

    Bellum

    I'm Rin. Rin Okumura.
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  • Well Scizor will be running Swords Dance + Night Slash, I think between Scizor and Chandelure, ghosts won't be very much of a threat xD

    As for sets:

    Chandelure
    Nickname- Spectre
    Nature- Modest
    Ability- Flash Fire
    Gender-Male
    IVs - all except Attack (still needs breeding...can't find anyonw who will breed the Litwick for me -_-)
    Moves- Flamethrower, Psychic, Dark Pulse, Shadow Ball
    Item- Not figured out just yet.
    EV Spread- 252 SP.Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP



    Electivire
    Nickame- Live-Wire
    Nature- Adamant
    Ability- Motor Drive
    Gender- Male
    IVs- all except Special Attack
    Item- still figuring out
    Moves- Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, E-Quake
    EV Spread- 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP


    Scizor: 
    Nickname- Klaw
    Nature- Jolly
    Ability- Technician
    Gender- Male
    IVs- 31 in attack, speed and both defences. 
    Item- Scizorite
    Moves- Bullet Punch, Swords Dance, Night Slash and either X-Scissor or U-Turn
    EV Spread- 252 Speed, 124 Def, 124 Sp.def, 4 atk

    Roserade:
    Nickname- no nickname. Acquired the Roselia through WT and it's perfect everything xD but in my mind, his name would be Romeo xD
    Nature- Timid
    Ability- Natural Heal
    Gender- Male
    IVs- Perfect except attack
    Item- Not decided yet
    Moves- Leaf Storm, Sludge Wave (or bomb, dunno which is better), Not decided other 2
    EV Spread- 252 Speed, 252 Sp.Atk, 4 Sp.Def (why not? XD)


    Haxorus:
    Nickname- Probably Hacker, or Chopper
    Nature- Adamant
    Ability- Either Rivalry or Mold Breaker
    Gender- Male
    IVs- all except special attack
    Item- Dragon Fang? I dunno xD not decided yet
    Moves- D-Dance, D-Claw, Poison Jab (to deal with those pesky fairies), X-Scissor
    EV Spread- 252 Atk, 252 speed, 4 Def


    Blissey:
    nothing has been decided for Blissey, still working this one out.

    As for defensive wall...I have nothing :I I was thinking maybe a Bastiodon? I dunno haha.
     
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    PlatinumDude

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  • Well Scizor will be running Swords Dance + Night Slash, I think between Scizor and Chandelure, ghosts won't be very much of a threat xD

    As for sets:

    Chandelure
    Nickname- Spectre
    Nature- Modest
    Ability- Flash Fire
    Gender-Male
    IVs - all except Attack (still needs breeding...can't find anyonw who will breed the Litwick for me -_-)
    Moves- Flamethrower, Psychic, Dark Pulse, Shadow Ball
    Item- Not figured out just yet.



    Electivire
    Nickame- Live-Wire
    Nature- Adamant
    Ability- Motor Drive
    Gender- Male
    IVs- all except Special Attack
    Item- still figuring out
    Moves- Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, E-Quake



    Scizor: 
    Nickname- Klaw
    Nature- Jolly
    Ability- Technician
    Gender- Male
    IVs- 31 in attack, speed and both defences. 
    Item- Scizorite
    Moves- Bullet Punch, Swords Dance, Night Slash and either X-Scissor or U-Turn

    Roserade:
    Nickname- no nickname. Acquired the Roselia through WT and it's perfect everything xD but in my mind, his name would be Romeo xD
    Nature- Timid
    Ability- Natural Heal
    Gender- Male
    IVs- Perfect except attack
    Item- Not decided yet
    Moves- Leaf Storm, Sludge Wave (or bomb, dunno which is better), Not decided other 2



    Haxorus:
    Nickname- Probably Hacker, or Chopper
    Nature- Adamant
    Ability- Either Rivalry or Mold Breaker
    Gender- Male
    IVs- all exceot special attack
    Item- Dragon Fang? I dunno xD not decided yet
    Moves- D-Dance, D-Claw, Poison Jab (to deal with those pesky fairies), X-Scissor

    Blissey:
    nothing has been decided for Blissey, still working this one out.

    As for defensive wall...I have nothing :I I was thinking maybe a Bastiodon? I dunno haha.

    Okay, first off, Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball are redundant on Chandelure. Pick the one that has STAB (Shadow Ball in that case). As a general rule of thumb, don't use Ghost and Dark offensive moves together on the same set, as they have the exact same super effective coverage. Only Spiritomb gets away with having Dark and Ghost STABs at once, as its STABs fulfill different functions. Also, Fire Blast > Flamethrower, as the extra power is appreciated, and the accuracy is still acceptable:
    -Fire Blast
    -Shadow Ball
    -Hidden Power (Ice/Fighting)
    -Trick/Energy Ball
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Shadow Ball
    -Fire Blast/Will-o-Wisp
    -Substitute
    -Taunt
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 160 HP/156 SAtk/192 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire

    Electivire is a mediocre Pokemon in general. While its coverage is good, sometimes it falls short of KOing a target, meaning that it tends to get KOed in return. Here are better Electric Pokemon to turn to for more utility, raw power and/or Speed:

    Mega Manectric:
    -Thunderbolt
    -Volt Switch
    -Overheat
    -Hidden Power (Ice)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Manectite
    Ability: Lightning Rod

    Wash Rotom:
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split/Rest
    Nature: Bold/Calm
    EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe (Bold) or 248 HP/216 SDef/44 Spe (Calm)
    Item: Leftovers/Chesto Berry

    or
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/Will-o-Wisp
    -Trick
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf

    Magnezone:
    -Thunderbolt
    -Volt Switch
    -Flash Cannon
    -Hidden Power (Fire)
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 172 HP/252 SAtk/84 Spe (Modest) or 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe (Timid)
    Item: Choice Specs (Modest)/Choice Scarf (Timid)
    Ability: Magnet Pull

    or
    -Magnet Rise
    -Thunderbolt
    -Flash Cannon
    -Hidden Power (Fire)
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 128 HP/252 SAtk/128 Spe
    Item: Air Balloon
    Ability: Magnet Pull

    Mega Ampharos:
    -Agility
    -Thunderbolt
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Focus Blast
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Ampharosite
    Ability: Static

    or
    -Volt Switch
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 248 HP/28 SAtk/232 SDef
    Item: Ampharosite
    Ability: Static

    There's little reason for Scizor to use a Jolly nature, as Bullet Punch takes care of its Speed problems. Take note that if you want Bug Bite, Superpower and/or Knock Off on Scizor, you'll have to transfer from B2/W2, or wait for Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire; the latter games are confirmed to have move tutors back:
    -Swords Dance
    -Bullet Punch
    -Bug Bite/Knock Off/Superpower/X-Scissor
    -Roost
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/44 Atk/116 Def/100 SDef
    Item: Scizorite/Leftovers
    Ability: Technician

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Bullet Punch
    -X-Scissor/Bug Bite/Knock Off
    -Superpower/Brick Break/U-turn
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Scizorite/Life Orb
    Ability: Technician

    or
    -U-turn
    -Bullet Punch
    -Superpower/Brick Break
    -Pursuit/Knock Off
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Technician

    or
    -Bullet Punch
    -U-turn/Superpower/Knock Off
    -Defog
    -Roost
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
    Item: Scizorite/Leftovers
    Ability: Technician

    Really, Roserade is mediocre. All it's good for is setting up Spikes:
    -Spikes
    -Leaf Storm
    -Hidden Power (Fire)/Sludge Bomb
    -Sleep Powder
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Technician/Natural Cure

    There are better Grass Pokemon out there than Roserade, such as Breloom, Amoonguss, Ferrothorn and Mega Venusaur:

    Breloom:
    -Bullet Seed
    -Mach Punch
    -Rock Tomb
    -Spore
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash
    Ability: Technician

    Amoonguss:
    -Spore
    -Giga Drain
    -Foul Play/Sludge Bomb
    -Clear Smog/Sludge Bomb/Stun Spore
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/136 Def/120 SDef
    Item: Black Sludge
    Ability: Regenerator

    Ferrothorn:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Leech Seed
    -Power Whip
    -Gyro Ball/Protect/Knock Off
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Iron Barbs

    Mega Venusaur:
    -Giga Drain
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Sleep Powder/Leech Seed/Hidden Power (Fire)/Earthquake
    -Synthesis
    Nature: Bold/Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/16 Spe
    Item: Venusaurite

    or
    -Giga Drain
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Hidden Power (Fire)
    -Synthesis
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 236 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef/16 Spe
    Item: Venusaurite

    Your current Haxorus set is walled badly by Steels. Mold Breaker is the superior ability on it simply because Rivalry is too situational and the fact that Levitators aren't safe from Earthquake:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw/Dual Chop
    -Earthquake
    -Poison Jab
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 36 HP/252 Atk/220 Spe
    Item: Lum Berry
    Ability: Mold Breaker

    However, there are better Dragon Dancers out there than Haxorus, such as Mega Charizard X, Mega Tyranitar, Mega Gyarados and Dragonite:

    Charizard:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Flare Blitz/Earthquake
    -Dragon Claw
    -Roost/Earthquake
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 40 HP/252 Atk/216 Spe
    Item: Charizardite X
    Ability: Blaze

    Tyranitar:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Stone Edge
    -Fire Punch/Superpower/Earthquake/Crunch
    -Ice Punch/Crunch
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Tyranitarite
    Ability: Sand Stream

    Gyarados (Crunch becomes an option come OR/AS, as Gyarados gained it as a level-up move there):
    -Dragon Dance
    -Waterfall
    -Earthquake/Crunch
    -Ice Fang/Crunch
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Gyaradosite
    Ability: Intimidate

    Dragonite:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Outrage
    -Extreme Speed
    -Earthquake/Fire Punch
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Lum Berry
    Ability: Multiscale

    When OR/AS comes around, there's also Mega Altaria and Mega Salamence as other possible options:

    Altaria:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Return
    -Earthquake
    -Roost
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Altarite (?)
    Ability: Natural Cure

    Salamence:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Return/Thrash/Double-Edge
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Blast
    Nature: Naive/Naughty
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Salamencite (?)

    Blissey should be running:
    -Seismic Toss/Flamethrower
    -Heal Bell/Aromatherapy/Stealth Rock
    -Soft-Boiled
    -Thunder Wave/Toxic
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure

    Don't even think about using Bastiodon. Its offensive presence is practically non-existent and its defensive typing is plain bad; its suffers from a 2x Water weakness and two crippling 4x weaknesses in Fighting and Ground.
     
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