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First REAL attempt at Competitive Team

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    • Seen Jul 7, 2011
    Well usually when I battle my friends I just used my in-game team or a makeshift team I make up on the spot, but a couple days ago after getting literally owned by my friend's new carefully assembled team I decided to try to make an actual competitive team. I don't know if this team would be good or not so please tell me what you think my team should have/should not have/etc.

    (Also still training them)

    Typhlosion -Impish nature (HP: 289/sp. atk: 215/defense: 211)
    ability: Blaze
    item: wiseglasses
    Moveset:
    Focus Blast
    Eruption
    Flamethrower
    Hidden Power

    Snorlax - Bold nature (HP: 220/defense: 90/attack: 108)
    ability: Immunity
    item: leftovers
    moveset:
    earthquake
    rollout
    crunch
    giga impact

    Raikou - Careful nature (HP:123/ sp. atk: 90/ sp. Def:102)
    ability: pressure
    item: zap plate
    moveset:
    roar
    quick attack
    spark
    thunderbolt

    Empoleon - Serious nature (HP: 277/attack: 188/defense: 191/ sp. atk: 231/ sp. def: 203/ speed: 164)
    ability: torrent
    item: mystic water
    moveset:
    waterfall
    drill peck
    surf
    rock slide

    (these last 2 I just added to this team)

    Gabite(2 levels away from Garchomp) - Bold nature (HP: 124/attack: 89/defense: 71)
    ability: sand veil
    item: none
    moveset:
    slash
    dragon claw
    dragon rush
    earthquake?

    Starmie - naughty nature (HP:53/sp. def: 35/ attack: 36)
    ability: illuminate
    item: none
    moveset:
    thunderbolt
    ice beam
    surf
    recover
     

    Pfiffikus

    Sapphire Fanboy
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  • I'm new here as well so whether or not you want to listen to me is your choice...
    The Pokemon selection isn't all that bad, it's just that the natures themselves are pretty bad for each Pokemon. Remember, a nature helps raise or lower a stat by as much as 10% so natures do make a large difference!

    For example, your Starmie has a naughty nature: ATK + and SP DEF -. What does that mean? Is your Starmie ever going to use a physical attack and take advantage of that ATK boost? No, Starmies will never use physical attacks (unless it's rapid spin but that's different) and so that ATK boost goes to waste. What about the Special Defense? Couldn't you lower another stat? Maybe the useless ATK stat? That SP DEF can come in handy to help reduce the overall damage of a certain move, say an opponent's Surf or whatever they might try to do.

    Apply that to all your Pokemon and re-evaluate their moves along with which stat you want to emphasize for each Pokemon. Normally, Pokemon should only have 2 stats emphasized, say ATK and SPD since that's all that can be done and have successful results (due to EV's and whatnot).

    I don't know if that's not brushing up on enough or too many subjects, maybe too in-depth in some areas but not enough in others but that should get you started.
     

    PlatinumDude

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  • Well usually when I battle my friends I just used my in-game team or a makeshift team I make up on the spot, but a couple days ago after getting literally owned by my friend's new carefully assembled team I decided to try to make an actual competitive team. I don't know if this team would be good or not so please tell me what you think my team should have/should not have/etc.

    (Also still training them)

    Typhlosion -Modest/Timid nature (HP: 289/sp. atk: 215/defense: 211)
    ability: Blaze
    item: Choice Scarf
    Moveset:
    Focus Blast
    Eruption
    Flamethrower
    Hidden Power

    Snorlax - Adamant nature (HP: 220/defense: 90/attack: 108)
    ability: Immunity
    item: leftovers
    moveset:
    earthquake
    Fire Punch
    crunch
    Return/Body Slam

    Raikou - Timid nature (HP:123/ sp. atk: 90/ sp. Def:102)
    ability: pressure
    item: Life Orb/Leftovers
    moveset:
    Calm Mind
    Shadow Ball
    Hidden Power (Fighting/Grass/Ice)

    thunderbolt

    Empoleon - Modest nature (HP: 277/attack: 188/defense: 191/ sp. atk: 231/ sp. def: 203/ speed: 164)
    ability: torrent
    item: Choice Specs
    moveset:
    Ice Beam
    Grass Knot

    surf
    Sleep Talk

    (these last 2 I just added to this team)

    Gabite(2 levels away from Garchomp) - Jolly nature (HP: 124/attack: 89/defense: 71)
    ability: sand veil
    item: Life Orb/Leftovers/Haban Berry
    moveset:
    Swords Dance
    dragon claw
    Stone Edge/Fire Fang
    earthquake?

    Starmie - Timid nature (HP:53/sp. def: 35/ attack: 36)
    ability: Natural Cure
    item: Life Orb
    moveset:
    thunderbolt
    ice beam
    surf
    recover
    Your Pokemon have the wrong natures (an Impish Typhlosion? It should've been Mild/Hasty/Modest/Timid). Comments/suggestions in bold.
     

    Cheeky Beaver

    @ techloom clause
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    • Seen Jun 2, 2011
    First of all, don't use typhlosion as a lead as it gets beat by just about errything(yes i said errything), if you are looking for an offensive lead use lead ape.

    infernape@Focus Sash Naive / Hasty
    Naive / Hasty nature
    Moveset
    ~ Fake Out
    ~ Stealth Rock
    ~ Fire Blast
    ~ Close Combat / Encore

    EV's:64 Atk / 252 SpA / 192 Spe

    Next, your snorlax set is not very good. It does not work well as an all out attacker because of its mediocre speed and also baits fighting types that will destroy it. Use a curse set instead.

    Snorlax@Leftovers
    Thick Fat
    Careful nature
    Moveset
    ~ Curse
    ~ Body Slam
    ~ Crunch
    ~ Rest
    EV's: 188 HP / 104 Def / 216 SpD

    Also, your raikou set is not very good. This set will do much better for you.


    Raikou@Life Orb
    Timid
    Pressure
    Moveset:
    ~ Charge Beam
    ~ Thunderbolt
    ~ Shadow Ball
    ~ Hidden Power Grass
    EV's:4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    now i can tell that you are new to competitive battling so here is a guide to getting the hidden power that you want. http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/breeding_guide_part4

    Empoleon: Empoleon does not work as well as physical attacker as well as it does as special attacker. If you want a good physical water type use DD gyarados.

    GyaradosLife Orb
    adamant nature
    Moveset
    ~ Dragon Dance
    ~ Waterfall
    ~ Stone Edge
    ~ Earthquake
    EV's: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    If you plan on doing standard OU battling garchomp will not be allowed as he is classified as "uber". you can use a flygon instead.

    Flygon@Choice Scarf
    adamant nature
    Moveset
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Outrage
    ~ U-turn
    ~ Stone Edge

    EV's: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

    finally for you starmie: timid>naughty, rapid spin>recover, natural cure>illuminate.

    I hope this helps and good luck!
     

    Cheeky Beaver

    @ techloom clause
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    • Seen Jun 2, 2011
    Do not use double team. In all competitive battling evasion clause is in effect which restricts you from using evasion boosting moves.
     
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