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First time team, your thoughts?

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    So this is the first time I'm ever building a team for competitive battle(Gen 6). As such I really have no idea what to expect and have built a team mostly on what I like and what I've read about metabattling. So. Thoughts? Anything dreadfully wrong here?

    Arcanine
    Adamant Flash Fire
    Life Orb
    72 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD / 176 Spe

    Flare Blitz
    ExtremeSpeed
    Wild Charge / Crunch
    Close Combat

    Drapion
    Jolly Sniper
    Black Sludge
    252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe or 252 Attack, 156 HP, 100 Speed

    Earthquake
    Crunch
    Cross Poison
    Aqua Tail / Toxic Spikes

    Vaporeon
    Bold Water Absorb
    Leftovers
    248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe

    Roar
    Ice Beam
    Wish
    Scald

    Breloom
    Adamant Poison Heal
    Toxic Orb
    12 HP / 252 Atk / 244 Spe

    Spore / Substitute
    Focus Punch
    Stone Edge
    Seed Bomb

    Skarmory
    Jolly Sturdy
    Shed Shell / Custap Berry
    252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

    Spikes
    Roost
    Taunt
    Brave Bird

    Jolteon
    Timid Volt Absorb
    4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

    Thunderbolt
    Volt Switch
    Signal Beam
    Hidden Power Ice

    Any help is greatly appreciated :D
     
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    I'll assume Gen V.

    Arcanine has the stats and move pool to be OU, but its pure Fire typing holds it back, due to a Stealth Rock weakness. Use Infernape, as it has a Stealth Rock neutrality, better Speed and good mixed attacking stats:
    -Flare Blitz
    -Close Combat
    -U-turn
    -Mach Punch/ThunderPunch
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band

    or
    -Fire Blast/Overheat
    -Close Combat
    -ThunderPunch
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/U-turn/Mach Punch
    Nature: Hasty/Naive
    EVs: 180 Atk/76 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt

    or
    -Fake Out
    -Stealth Rock
    -Overheat
    -Close Combat
    Nature: Hasty/Naive
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Focus Sash

    or
    -Fire Blast/Flare Blitz
    -Close Combat
    -U-turn
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/Stone Edge
    Nature: Hasty/Naive
    EVs: 36 Atk/220 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf

    Ferrothorn or Forretress are better hazard setters than Drapion in OU because of their better bulk and typing:
    -Stealth Rock/Spikes
    -Leech Seed/Stealth Rock
    -Power Whip/Protect
    -Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/48 Def/208 SDef
    Item: Leftovers

    Forretress:
    -Stealth Rock/Spikes
    -Rapid Spin
    -Gyro Ball/Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Volt Switch
    Nature: Relaxed/Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy

    Protect is important for Wish Vaporeon because it ensures that it gets the Wish recovery itself. Replace Ice Beam or Roar with Protect.

    SubPunch Breloom should look like this, because Spore makes it easier for Breloom to get a Substitute up:
    -Substitute
    -Focus Punch
    -Seed Bomb/Facade/Stone Edge
    -Spore
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 12 HP/252 Atk/244 Spe
    Item: Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal

    Use Choice Specs or Life Orb for Jolteon.
     
    Thanks! Sorry forgot to put the gen but Gen VI.

    Thanks for the input, I'll see if the changes to movesets work and maybe switch Drapion out for Forretress, but...I may keep Arcanine in since I just like him a lot more than Infernape. >-> Haha.
     
    Hmmm I'd really like to keep Ice Beam in, as otherwise my team doesn't really have anything to counter dragons with except for Jolteon's HP Ice. And since I was going to have Drapion with Toxic Spikes I didn't know if doubling up with Vaporeon knowing toxic would be a wasted move slot?

    If I did:

    Protect
    Ice Beam
    Wish
    Scald


    that'd be good?
     
    Hmmm I'd really like to keep Ice Beam in, as otherwise my team doesn't really have anything to counter dragons with except for Jolteon's HP Ice. And since I was going to have Drapion with Toxic Spikes I didn't know if doubling up with Vaporeon knowing toxic would be a wasted move slot?

    If I did:

    Protect
    Ice Beam
    Wish
    Scald


    that'd be good?

    Yeah, that's fine. I did say either Toxic or Ice Beam is fine. I'm just so used to bringing stuff to kill dragons with that I forgot that that's not the case with everyone. So Ice Beam would be better for you.
     
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