[Other] Form Changes

[Zervais]

I'm creating my own Pokedex and a few of the Pokémon I want to use have different forms. I want to know how I can implement them. Would I need to use up a sprite of a different pokemon and somehow make the other pokemon "evolve" into them?

I want to be able to change forms like Deoxys does when interacting with a meteor, or a plate for Arceus.

How can I insert these sprites and go about the script for changing their form?

A full list of my Pokémon's alternate forms includes:

Spoiler:

Arceus (all 18 types)
Shaymin Sky
Giratina Origin
Landorus Therian
Thunderus Therian
Tornadus Therian
Deoxys (all)
Meowstic M/F

Also, how can I edit the Pokedex itself, the order ect? I want to make a regional and a national.

 

[NewDenverCity]

I'm creating my own Pokedex and a few of the Pokémon I want to use have different forms. I want to know how I can implement them. Would I need to use up a sprite of a different pokemon and somehow make the other pokemon "evolve" into them?

You don't want them to evolve into the other using traditional methods.

How can I insert these sprites and go about the script for changing their form?

You need a combination of scripting and ASM, and luckily for you a lot of the ASM is already done.

A full list of my Pokémon's alternate forms includes:

Spoiler:

Arceus (all 18 types)
Shaymin Sky
Giratina Origin
Landorus Therian
Thunderus Therian
Tornadus Therian
Deoxys (all)
Meowstic M/F

Shaymin is unfortunately not done, as it needs an RTC to work properly, and I haven't looked into the RTC much.
Use this for Therian formes and Deoxys.
Arceus and Giratina Formes
What you can do with Meowstic is either set two slots to have the same Pokedex number or write your own routines for Meowstic. The issue with Meostic is that when breeding, you'll only ever receive a female Espurr. The only exception is breeding a male Meowstic with Ditto. The solution to this is again, writing your own routine. The method of having two slots and writing one routine in the breeding area is easier, mainly because the other option requires you to hook in a bunch of different areas.

Also, how can I edit the Pokedex itself, the order ect? I want to make a regional and a national.

You should use Pokemon Game Editor.

 

[Zervais]

You don't want them to evolve into the other using traditional methods.

You need a combination of scripting and ASM, and luckily for you a lot of the ASM is already done.

Shaymin is unfortunately not done, as it needs an RTC to work properly, and I haven't looked into the RTC much.
Use this for Therian formes and Deoxys.
Arceus and Giratina Formes
What you can do with Meowstic is either set two slots to have the same Pokedex number or write your own routines for Meowstic. The issue with Meostic is that when breeding, you'll only ever receive a female Espurr. The only exception is breeding a male Meowstic with Ditto. The solution to this is again, writing your own routine. The method of having two slots and writing one routine in the breeding area is easier, mainly because the other option requires you to hook in a bunch of different areas.


You should use Pokemon Game Editor.

Hm, not the slightest clue how to do ASM at the moment but I'll give it a go seeing as I want this to work.

Thanks very much for pointing me in the right place.

As regards to the pokedex and sprites, I'm using the original 386 slots (not going to expand) but would some be taken up with the form sprites? If so how can I remove a few numbers from the dex itself? For instance ending up with only 350 Pokemon in the pokedex.

 

[NewDenverCity]

Hm, not the slightest clue how to do ASM at the moment but I'll give it a go seeing as I want this to work.

Thanks very much for pointing me in the right place.

As regards to the pokedex and sprites, I'm using the original 386 slots (not going to expand) but would some be taken up with the form sprites? If so how can I remove a few numbers from the dex itself? For instance ending up with only 350 Pokemon in the pokedex.

You can probably use the blank spaces between Celebi and Treeko for Therian formes and Arceus, and use the ones you're not putting in your dex as your other formes (this is important for meowstic because of a bug that can happen). I don't recommend shrinking the pokedex, it'll mess up Unown and the Egg's icon. You can just not use some of them and then edit some of the checks(ie; the prof oak option in the PC).
Anyway, you need to make sure the slots all have the correct stats. If the slot doesn't have the stats of the form it's changing into, funny things happen.

 

[Zervais]

You can probably use the blank spaces between Celebi and Treeko for Therian formes and Arceus, and use the ones you're not putting in your dex as your other formes (this is important for meowstic because of a bug that can happen). I don't recommend shrinking the pokedex, it'll mess up Unown and the Egg's icon. You can just not use some of them and then edit some of the checks(ie; the prof oak option in the PC).
Anyway, you need to make sure the slots all have the correct stats. If the slot doesn't have the stats of the form it's changing into, funny things happen.

My main worry is how the national pokedex will look. Will it display all 386 and have several slots blank? Maybe it would just be better to put in extra sprites for the alternate forms, if you could link me to somewhere which will teach me how to do it. If not, maybe I should just give up with the other forms, I'm a newbie when it comes to advanced hacking like this. I'm on my own making this game so if I can't do something, I'm stuck.

 

[NewDenverCity]

My main worry is how the national pokedex will look. Will it display all 386 and have several slots blank? Maybe it would just be better to put in extra sprites for the alternate forms, if you could link me to somewhere which will teach me how to do it. If not, maybe I should just give up with the other forms, I'm a newbie when it comes to advanced hacking like this. I'm on my own making this game so if I can't do something, I'm stuck.

It won't display the blank spots, and you need the blank spots to use the forms anyway. Just arrange your pokedex order so those have the same pokedex number as the original form.

There isn't really a tutorial to this because the above paragraph in this post is literally all there is too it. Try messing around with PGE's pokedex editor and you'll see what I mean.

 

[Zervais]

It won't display the blank spots, and you need the blank spots to use the forms anyway. Just arrange your pokedex order so those have the same pokedex number as the original form.

There isn't really a tutorial to this because the above paragraph in this post is literally all there is too it. Try messing around with PGE's pokedex editor and you'll see what I mean.

Fantastic, thank you. I'll get to work on the pokedex as soon as I choose all the monsters I want to use.