6th Gen Friend Safari - All Pokemon Available

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    Say Friend Safari worked exactly as it did now, but with every Pokemon available (minus legends)... would you be for or against that?

    So for example, say three players had Fire Safaris... they would still only have three Pokemon there but the pool to choose said Pokemon from would be the whole pool of non-legend fire Pokemon, but only one per evolutionary chain, so Charmander would be available but not Charmeleon and Charizard.

    That way, adding enough different types, it would technically be possible to complete the Dex using Friend Safaris, and there's still the added challenge of finding legendaries through other means...

    I just think considering now we have over 700 Pokemon, they need to be more readily available.
     
    there would be no point in going anywhere else to catch pokemon, so why bother building a world to explore when all players would do is stay in the tiny field in the safari. Plus never having to trade for anything but evolutions, the whole exclusive pokemon thing has been around since the beginning. And with only 3 per friend, you could never get everything, you can only have 100 friends per ds, so that's only 300 if you're lucky enough to not have any repeats.
     
    I don't know about having said Fire Safari have all the fire types in the game.. I kind of like the system they have in place right now.

    I'm more annoyed that the unobtainable guys like the other starters and their hidden abilities aren't even accessible still after all these years.. and it doesn't seem likely that they will ever be patched in to show up in Safari Zones.
     
    there would be no point in going anywhere else to catch pokemon, so why bother building a world to explore when all players would do is stay in the tiny field in the safari. Plus never having to trade for anything but evolutions, the whole exclusive pokemon thing has been around since the beginning. And with only 3 per friend, you could never get everything, you can only have 100 friends per ds, so that's only 300 if you're lucky enough to not have any repeats.

    Of course there would be a point to go other places. You still have to find someone with a safari with the Pokemon you need in them. And of course, you'd have to delete some Friend Safaris to make room for more, therein lies the challenge.

    And people would still trade a ton. Say you wanted a Ponyta. You could have six fire safaris, with Ponyta not in any of them - so you'd still have to trade for her. They could even make it so that rarer Pokemon have less of a chance of being in the Safari.
     
    I don't know about having said Fire Safari have all the fire types in the game.. I kind of like the system they have in place right now.

    I'm more annoyed that the unobtainable guys like the other starters and their hidden abilities aren't even accessible still after all these years.. and it doesn't seem likely that they will ever be patched in to show up in Safari Zones.

    Just so you know, hidden abilities ONLY became a thing during the last gen. Before that, there were no hidden abilities.


    Say Friend Safari worked exactly as it did now, but with every Pokemon available (minus legends)... would you be for or against that?

    So for example, say three players had Fire Safaris... they would still only have three Pokemon there but the pool to choose said Pokemon from would be the whole pool of non-legend fire Pokemon, but only one per evolutionary chain, so Charmander would be available but not Charmeleon and Charizard.

    That way, adding enough different types, it would technically be possible to complete the Dex using Friend Safaris, and there's still the added challenge of finding legendaries through other means...

    I just think considering now we have over 700 Pokemon, they need to be more readily available.

    Well for the readily available thing, there are only 22 pokemon lines that aren't available via the Friend Safari:

    Rattata
    Meowth
    Porygon
    Koffing
    Misdreavus
    Stantler
    Slakoth
    Baltoy
    Feebas
    Castform
    Krickitot
    Cherubi
    Buneary
    Glameow
    Finneon
    Cottonee
    Darumaka
    Yamask
    Frillish
    Tynamo
    Elgyem
    Bouffalant
    So I think they did a pretty good job of making old pokemon readily available. Yes, there's still those 22 pokemon lines you can't get, but that's why you start trading online with the GTS or even Wonder Trade. I think they way they made it was a fantastic way of doing it. You use the Friend Safaris for most of the Pokemon, and then use the GTS as sort of a real world Safari to get those last few pokemon. I don't think I would change a single thing to be honest. I like it just the way they did it.
     
    Of course there would be a point to go other places. You still have to find someone with a safari with the Pokemon you need in them. And of course, you'd have to delete some Friend Safaris to make room for more, therein lies the challenge.

    And people would still trade a ton. Say you wanted a Ponyta. You could have six fire safaris, with Ponyta not in any of them - so you'd still have to trade for her. They could even make it so that rarer Pokemon have less of a chance of being in the Safari.

    they did make some rarer by not inducing some pokemon at all. The point of the safari is to catch a few select pokemon you can't find anywhere else. doing something like only having pokemon you can't find in that region would be a better idea than having everything. there are about 300 pokemon not found in Kalos, give or take. and the point of doing the friend safari is to make friends, kinda douchey to just add someone then drop them after you're done, and if you start a new game, you wouldn't have those your dropped.
     
    It would really ruin the fun of going around and trying your best to catch all Pokémon wherever you could, so I'd say it'd be a bad idea if they had safaris with all Pokémon available to be caught.

    It would also ruin the purpose of having to trade with others as well, which would be no fun at all if you couldn't trade.
     
    What would be better is they allowed the use of the pokeradar in the safaris.. it's one of the only few nice patches of grass in the game without any rocks, holes or weird shapes in it.
     
    It would really ruin the fun of going around and trying your best to catch all Pokémon wherever you could, so I'd say it'd be a bad idea if they had safaris with all Pokémon available to be caught.

    It would also ruin the purpose of having to trade with others as well, which would be no fun at all if you couldn't trade.

    I agree with Zach's statement, trading is the reason we also have version exclusives in the first place, to encourage others to connect so they can complete the Pokedex. If we had every single Pokemon catchable in the Friend Safaris we may never probably have trading features at all.
     
    oh heck yeah, i want to poke radar ninetails. is that so hard to ask?
     
    Just so you know, hidden abilities ONLY became a thing during the last gen. Before that, there were no hidden abilities.

    Oh I'm aware.. But 5th gen has been around for about 4 years or something. You would think they would be a little more active in trying to get some of these guys released by now.. and I'm mainly referring to Starter Pokemon here. Some of those guys might actually be good if they were to stop sitting on them and put them out for people to use.

    Maybe they're planning some kind of Mega Stone event down the line thats going to be tied to them..
     
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    Oh I'm aware.. But 5th gen has been around for about 4 years or something. You would think they would be a little more active in trying to get some of these guys released by now.. and I'm mainly referring to Starter Pokemon here. Some of those guys might actually be good if they were to stop sitting on them and put them out for people to use.

    Maybe they're planning some kind of Mega Stone event down the line thats going to be tied to them..

    well, they do have Gen 1, 3, 4 and 6 starters all available with their hidden abilities, so the only pokemon (that I can find) that don't have their hidden abilities legitimately available are Gen 2 and 5 starters, the legendary bird trio, the legendary beast trio, the Regi Trio and Heatran. So while it does suck not having the starters (would LOVE to have a Contrary Snivy) there aren't that many that don't have their abilities available.
     
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