• Our friends from the Johto Times are hosting a favorite Pokémon poll - and we'd love for you to participate! Click here for information on how to vote for your favorites!
  • Welcome to PokéCommunity! Register now and join one of the best fan communities on the 'net to talk Pokémon and more! We are not affiliated with The Pokémon Company or Nintendo.
    Register

Gamefreak seriously needs to try something new.

kabigon

My body is always ready.
    • 203
    Posts
    17
    Years
    They have seriously milked the same game over and over for all its worth. I think that is enough and its time to stop. If the 5th generation doesnt bring something radically new to the series, I fear it may die. Gamefreak needs to see that pokemon needs to evolve (no pun intended) to keep up with the other game series that evolved. If the next gen doesnt come with a completely different and engaging story than what we have now, or its not an mmorpg, or the gameplay isnt new and innovative, people will seriously stop caring.
     
    Everyone except the 10 year olds that this game is meant to appeal to.
     
    kabigon said:
    They have seriously milked the same game over and over for all its worth. I think that is enough and its time to stop. If the 5th generation doesnt bring something radically new to the series, I fear it may die. Gamefreak needs to see that pokemon needs to evolve (no pun intended) to keep up with the other game series that evolved. If the next gen doesnt come with a completely different and engaging story than what we have now, or its not an mmorpg, or the gameplay isnt new and innovative, people will seriously stop caring.
    Click to expand...

    the sad thing is gamefreak wont be bothered to change anything theyll just keep on doing the same thing as its easier for them. that means more pointless pokemon:(
     
    Changing means taking a risk they will fail. Companies tend to stick with what works more often than take chances.
     
    I feel like only minor changes need to be made but if the Handheld games went all 3D that would be so the change.
     
    I can garentee everybody who has and will post in this thread demanding a change in games would buy any new pokemon RPG anway, and game freak know that too. The don't need to risk investing in something else when they have possibly the largest gaming goldmine ever at their disposal.
     
    Number one, it hasn't even been officially announced that Nintendo and Gamefreak will even be creating a new generation. Who knows? Perhaps Platinum is the last handheld Pokémon we may ever see.
    (Very unlikely, but I think you're counting your chickens before they hatch.)

    Gamefreak does implement new features and such into every new generation they create. Look at natures and abilities; those have created another dimension of challenge when creating a Pokémon team. They added contests in generation three, that gave Pokémon enthusiasts something different to do with their little pocket monsters.

    I really don't see what else you could possibly expect them to do. If the change the original formula too much, then it really wouldn't be a Pokémon game. This goes along with the quote, "If it isn't broke, don't fix it."

    As to your MMORPG theory... Have you ever really taken a look at the competitive battling scene? I actually consider Diamond and Pearl to pretty much be as close to an MMORPG Pokémon game you're going to get. Sure, one can't walk down the streets of Jublife City with their friend half way around the world, but they sure as heck can kick the snot out of them in the Wi-Fi room.
    (In the end, battling is pretty much what Pokémon is about anyway...)

    I hope I don't sound pompous or rude here, but I'm just so tired of hearing people complain about how stagnant the Pokémon series is getting. I, for one, believe that Gamefreak is doing a great job of breathing life into the series. They are keeping the same great recipe for a Pokémon game, yet the differences keep me buying every version they create.
     
    kabigon said:
    They have seriously milked the same game over and over for all its worth. I think that is enough and its time to stop. If the 5th generation doesnt bring something radically new to the series, I fear it may die. Gamefreak needs to see that pokemon needs to evolve (no pun intended) to keep up with the other game series that evolved. If the next gen doesnt come with a completely different and engaging story than what we have now, or its not an mmorpg, or the gameplay isnt new and innovative, people will seriously stop caring.
    Click to expand...

    And what's your bright idea for a new storyline, eh? And how can you call the 4th generation's gameplay not new and innovative with the new features they've added?

    At this point, I've heard it all. Complaints about 4th-gen pokemon, complaints about the 4th-gen gameplay, complaints about about every little nitpicky thing and to this my response is: If you don't like the 4th generation, don't play it. I am SO sick of all the whining that's come with the new pokemon series that I am on the verge of exploding. I'm not trying to offend you or anything, but I. Am. Going. Insane.
     
    As far as the competative metagame goes, I disagree that it needs to change. It's been going quite smoothly, and it is more balanced now than it has ever been before. As far as ingame goes, I agree. It's becoming awfully similar.
     
    I don't see why not they make a new generation, but start all over in pokemon like kanto and u can never get or trade from from emerald/diamond/pearl to the newer versions of the 5 gen. and blah...
     
    3DO died shortly after milking the plastic soldier idea dry. They should've sticked to the awesomeness that is Uprising to be honest...
    Anyway, point is, and I quote Ben Croshaw here: only Nintendo could ever get away with releasing the same thing again and again.

    They should try something new, but while they're still raking in the green they're far from likely to do so. Pokemon could quite easily become a PC format MMORPG able to rival WoW, but no~.

    It's a shame really...
     
    I do not think it will drastically change for quite a while This game is honestly intended for people ranging from like 6/7-around 18. Pretty much teens and below. As people grow older they will forget about the game and move on to different things but that may not stop their children or other children from wanting the games. Pokemon is not going to die or be forgotten anytime soon. The story will eventually change and hopefully for the better. Some of the hacks I have played have been 10x better than the real game.
     
    Something drastic has to be done. Very drastic. You may think I'm crazy for telling this, but the turn based system and strategy has to go. The handheld business as well. Get on to consoles. Imagine, a fast paced game where you can switch control from your trainer to Pokemon at the press of a button. The trainer uses item and does cheering, while the Pokemon does the fighting. I you've played 'Zatchbell: Mamodo Fury'(It sucks, but is a good example) you'll know what I mean. They have the graphics from battle revolution. They just need to put in some speed and bring up the pace. Think of it; you assign a move to each button, like when you press that button it will use tackle if you set it beforehand, you have one for jumping, one for attacking without using a move, one for blocking, and so on. play some platformers. You'll know what I mean.

    Imagine it: (this is only an example) You're controlling a charizard, it's flying, you close in and use slash on a golem, but it rebounds and strikes back with a rollout. Charizard's hut, so you switch on to the trainer, equip yourself with a super potion, go close to charizard and use it. Charizard's up, then you can switch back and attack. Then you can switch out to a swampert by playing the trainer and switching out charizard and bringing out swampert. Then you can switch on to swampert and do some damage with hydro pump from far.

    The physical and special attack types will be greatly influenced here, and the pokemon will be left to fight by themselves. Out of battle, we control the trainer to do talking and all that. The smallest town must have at least 7 big houses. And they should have quite a few rooms; how can a family of four live in a one room house with nothing but a table, cupboard and TV? Have good items, good looking and decent pokemon, and get better graphics than that of Battle revolution.

    Everyone will but that kind of Pokemon game, it's child friendly, and no bloodshed and excessive violence shall exist. 'The Legend of Spyro' triology games are a great example; the defeated enemies poof up in smoke(barely noticeable) and turn into energy crystals. But, we all know that is just reality-fiction, though it is scientifically possible.
     
    That would destroy the very fundamentals of the game, the essense.

    It's a STRADEGY GAME, that means the turn based system is good, it gives the player time to contemplate his or her next move. Otherwise, this is just some kind of sick, twisted Pokemon ranger ( Which I disliked with a passion.)


    Edit: Better example, pretty much every fighting game EVER. With that kind of system we would be a bunch of lameo buttonmashing fools! FOOLS I TELL YOU!
     
    Pokemon DID venture away from it's tried and true base, and look what happened, Pokemon Mystery, and Pokemon Ranger. both were massive failures in my eyes. And besides, the more you venture away from the original concept, like taking away the turn based structure, then you aren't playing pokemon anymore. It's just not the same.

    Pokemon is generally aimed towards the younger generation, but it isn't made for the young kids. there is an amazing level of depth in the pokemon games. how many kids care about breeding egg moves and EV training?

    And besides, is Pokemon any different than ANY of Nintendo's other franchises? like the Legend of Zelda, go into a cave, get an item, use the item to solve the puzzles, and beat the boss. complete 7 more times. or Mario. run east, jump over things, find Peach. each of these games have a very tried and true gameplay formula. each new addition changes things slightly; like planets, or a wolf, to give a new experience, but not too much to change the entire game. and isn't that what fans want? to play the same game they love, but to have something new to experience? like 8 new badges, or a few new pokemon? I mean, think how much all of you would be complaining if they had only stayed with the original 151. Or if only two or three new pokemon came out with every generation. Then they would have lost a lot of fans a long time ago.
     
    Wah? Gamefreak doesnt do anything new? This gen brought more realistics to berry growing the now 3 part contests of dressing dancing and preforming a seperat arc for moves(physical and special really brought strategy into it) and a whole lot of stuff. I wouldnt be suprised if next gen as well as getting 8 badges you also venture off doin a side quest as big as the main. Like a job. Anyweh yeah like someone said its only nintendo who gets away with it cause it works. You can take zelda.It is now a 3D slasher with loads of landscapes hidden rooms puzzles and collecting and it will stay that way. And so will mario. Collect 120 stars yada yada rescue princess.Whatever my point is this:
    Gamefreak doesnt need something new it just needs to improve all that we have. And it does it evolve. Trust me it does.
     
    Yeah, I like contests for instance, they're a fun little extra added to the game to give you something more to do should you choose, though of course not mandatory...that's the kind of change I like. Not a change to the whole formula, just extras added to mix it up a bit.

    I agree with being tired of complaints about gen 4...I sometimes wonder, if the Pokemon from gen 4 had actually been the first Pokemon released, would people have disliked them so much?
     
    If your thinking Pokémon Platinum is the 5th generation of Pokémon, you guessed wrong. Pokémon Platinum is a sequal to Diamond/Pearl, not another generation. And if you haven't seen the pictures/trailers of the game, I suggest you do because the game will be no Pokémon game you've ever seen.

    And I don't recall seeing anything going graduately downhill. Lots of games start out bad, and they graduately go up in population, and then they have better features.

    If you have seen the pictures/trailers, you will notice a character walking on walls, ceilings, and other obstacles in which is known as the Torn World.
     
    Vance said:
    As far as the competative metagame goes, I disagree that it needs to change. It's been going quite smoothly, and it is more balanced now than it has ever been before. As far as ingame goes, I agree. It's becoming awfully similar.
    Click to expand...

    You have to be kidding me...balanced? The metagame is anything BUT balanced. Whether it should change or not is debatable but they metagame is not balanced at all lol.

    Generally agreeing that changing the formula that has made Nintendo a lot of money would be a really bad move.
     
    You must log in or register to reply here.
    Back
    Top