Greatest Hip-Hop artist of all time!!

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    Who do you think is the greatest hi-hop artist of all time and why?

    I personally think that it's Tupac because of the way he used lyrics and how true he was to his style of rap. He also showed two sides to him, a gangster criminal side and an affectionate emotional side. He wasn't afraid to show his emotions and his feelings, he was also a good actor and wrote some good poetry.

    I'm sorry if your particular favorite is not on the list, I just chose them because of the list MTV made. Also please don't choose more than 2 artists, only if you really have to.
     
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    I'd have to say Eminem. He expresses his emotions so vividly, and his love for his daughter is sweet. That goes to show you that gangsta rap isn't always about crime, drugs and that-other-thing (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say that 3-lettered S-word on this forum).

    He may not be as fast as Twista, but while rhyming, he keeps up with the beat and never loses his cool. Besides, he has awesome songs.
     
    Tupac was the best for me, better than the rest.
     
    Tupac, although I don't know him that much, I think he had so much bravery but it just wasn't fair that he died quite young.
     
    I would say Jay-Z and Enimen.. They both rap really well.. And lots of Enimen songs are really meaningful..
     
    I'm not going to say that any "gangsta rapper" is the greatest hip-hop artist "of all time", because I don't believe in them. I'll nominate the Hilltop Hoods, a crew from Adelaide, Australia, who are one of the groups at the forefront of the blossoming Australian hip-hop scene, and back up their fresh sounds with positive lyrics rather than "I'm gonna kill everyone".
     
    If you guys think that Eminem's songs are meaningful then you obviously haven't heard his first couple of albums. He's one of my favorite rappers, but his songs used to be so messed up and stupid.

    I'll vote for Tupac, Jay-Z, Eminem, and Other (50 Cent).
     
    Lust said:
    If you guys think that Eminem's songs are meaningful then you obviously haven't heard his first couple of albums. He's one of my favorite rappers, but his songs used to be so messed up and stupid.

    I'll vote for Tupac, Jay-Z, Eminem, and Other (50 Cent).
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    I must tell you that I have all the songs of Em's debut album Infinite and I'd have to agree with you there. That's why people hated him cos he sounded like Nas.

    Other than that, yeah I think 50 Cent's awesome too. I just think that he talks about s** too much.
     
    2Pac, definitely. His songs have inspired me to listen to hip-hop and kept me from suicide during my middle school years.
     
    Eminem's old songs were fairly stupid but of late he seems to have mellowed a bit and they're more thoughtful, although songs like "*** Like That" are still totally stupid. I do enjoy the ones where he's singing to his daughter, though.
     
    Jedi_Amara said:
    Eminem's old songs were fairly stupid but of late he seems to have mellowed a bit and they're more thoughtful, although songs like "*** Like That" are still totally stupid. I do enjoy the ones where he's singing to his daughter, though.
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    I agree, songs like that were kinda stupid and funny, but it's a break from "OMFG Imma gangsta I'mma kill y'all mothaf**kaz!!!!" songs.

    But yeah, songs like "My Dad's Gone Crazy", "97 Bonnie and Clyde" and "When I'm Gone" are sweet, except that the latter one's sort of sad, when Em raps about Kim's "wrists are bleeding" and about ignoring his daughter "Daddy where's Mommy? I can't find Mommy, where is she? I don't know go play Hailie baby your daddy's busy. Daddy's writing this song, this song ain't gonna write itself.I give you one underdog and you gotta swing by yourself."
     
    Bart-kun said:
    I agree, songs like that were kinda stupid and funny, but it's a break from "OMFG Imma gangsta I'mma kill y'all mothaf**kaz!!!!" songs.

    But yeah, songs like "My Dad's Gone Crazy", "97 Bonnie and Clyde" and "When I'm Gone" are sweet, except that the latter one's sort of sad, when Em raps about Kim's "wrists are bleeding" and about ignoring his daughter "Daddy where's Mommy? I can't find Mommy, where is she? I don't know go play Hailie baby your daddy's busy. Daddy's writing this song, this song ain't gonna write itself.I give you one underdog and you gotta swing by yourself."
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    But at least it has a happy ending, when he and Kim get back together. There's hope, which is more than you can say for a lot of gangsta rap tracks.
     
    Bart-kun said:
    I agree, songs like that were kinda stupid and funny, but it's a break from "OMFG Imma gangsta I'mma kill y'all mothaf**kaz!!!!" songs.

    But yeah, songs like "My Dad's Gone Crazy", "97 Bonnie and Clyde" and "When I'm Gone" are sweet, except that the latter one's sort of sad, when Em raps about Kim's "wrists are bleeding" and about ignoring his daughter "Daddy where's Mommy? I can't find Mommy, where is she? I don't know go play Hailie baby your daddy's busy. Daddy's writing this song, this song ain't gonna write itself.I give you one underdog and you gotta swing by yourself."
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    Do you realise that the start of '97 Bonnie and Clyde Eminem "kills" Kim and dumps her body in a lake? Or do you find that sweet?

    Eminem's first songs are pretty lame now, but back when they were first released they were outstanding. And they were unique compared to what popular at that time. But his music has evolved massively, and he has now become the best rapper, song writer and possibly producer in the world.
     
    I wouldn't call him the best songwriter in the world. As much as you may like his songs, I still think that there are a lot more rock songs with more meaningful lyrics.
     
    Sorry, I meant rap songwriter. Just forgot to specify which. I don't think anybody can top Eminem there. The only person I know who could've rivalled him was Tupac.
     
    What I don't like about 2Pac is how they're still milking his estate for all it's worth. It's his mother more than anything - I wonder if she actually cares that he's gone, because all she's been doing since he died is to release albums to cash in on his name.
     
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