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GSC Time!
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lol ^
Firstly, I just thought id post this here because ive noticed a few more people playing GSC recently again on netbattle. Goodness knows why this is lol, i mean i can see why because it is a fun metagame, but at the same time its strange because its a pretty old metagame.
lol ^
The GSC metagame one of the least popular metagames due to its stallish nature and thus not really many people are interested in it any more so not many people know much about it or have just retired from it.
I used to play it regularly back in late 2003 early 2004 and i was "ok" then i quit pokemon for advance and then came back for DPPT in ~June 2007. Now however i have been on netbattle recently and started to play GSC again.
Anyways this is just a little background about the GSC metagame and to hopefully get people interested.
"image removed"GSC is a stall metagame, no one is going to hide that. Its also based on "who can outstall who?" mostly so its very possible to get 500 turn snoozers lol, but its still fun. Offensive teams are seen in contrast and can be successful by using lures and predictions (often predicting when their Heal Beller will come in and using that as a turn to set up), but really though stall totally dominates. Aggressive stall is the most dangerous play style where they actually attack you back and pose a threat.
- "image removed"Anyways an example of a GSC lure is using a Seismic Toss Heracross to force Skarmory to rest and then sweeping with a Belly Drum Snorlax then simply spamming Return/EQ and resting when required and then heal belling off the rest this is called "turbo drumming". Though its really alot harder in practise. Slapping Fire Blast/Thunder on a random physical attacker works to lure skarm, but not as well as it once did since Skarm is going to predict those a mile away. Mean Look + Perish song can be frustrating too for stall (Thunder Misdreavus most specifically) but they often have PHazers for this.
- "image removed"Another common stall breaking strategy is "last poke sweeps" when you save your stat upper until last so they cant phaze you and dominate (especially Acid Armour/Growth/Surf/Rest Vaporeon and cursers), though this isnt really reliable unless they dont have Perish Song/Haze and what not, which they very often do. "JoltWak" is pretty effective at wearing down walls because Jolteon can hit the most common PHazers for SE damage I.E Skarmory and Suicune. Of course there are wall breakers, guys like DruidCruel and MixBuzz. Sadly the combo of Rest Raikou and Rest Suicune pretty much walls every mix sweeper in existence.
- "image removed"Also when team building ask yourself "How do i beat cursers/stat uppers?" (Cursers, BPers and Growth Eons mainly) So you are gonna want a (P)Hazer or a Growl (read:curse only)pokemon to outstall them. Perish Song also works well for last pokes. You should heavily consider one of those for your team.
-"image removed" Phazers are also even more of an asset thanks to Mean Look + Perish Song being common.
- "image removed" Oh and Snorlax alters the metagame. I cannot put into words how much this pokemon shapes the metagame around it. Curse, Belly Drum, Fire Blast, Selfdestruct, Lovely Kiss(!) are all available to this guy and if you cant deal with it you will auto lose. You should also be able to handle BlissSkarm obv. =P
- "image removed"Status is still there (Thunderwave, Toxic and Sleep) so id advise you pack a Heal Beller and/or a Rest Talker/s to deal with it because it can be annoying. Miltank and Blissey are the pokes who use Heal Bell due to Celebi being uber.
Borat on things you should account for said:
- "image removed"Belly Drum + Fire Blast Clefable should also be handled with extreme care.
There are some move mechanic/ metagame differences you should take note of;
- "image removed" Rest can be selected by Sleep Talk and heal you whilst you are sleeping, it still only takes you 2 turns to wake up though. Hence why rest talk is like on EVERYTHING lol.
- "image removed"The faster phazer fails. So say you have a Curse Tyranitar who Cursed as you switched in you Skarm and then next turn you both Roar. Tar will force Skarmory out. =P
- "image removed"Spikes only can be stacked once and does 12.5% damage. No Skarm does not get Spikes this gen. Cloyster is the most common Spiker followed by Forretress and then Qwilfish.
- "image removed"Celebi is Uber. This depends on where you are battling, but for the most part yeah it is uber. Really this thing is such a damn pain as in it NEVER dies.
- "image removed"Sleep Moves are banned when used in conjunction Mean Look + Perish Song. Sorry guys, cheap combo is cheap and is banned for good reason haha.
- "image removed" Hidden Power on Legendaries is banned in tourneys. Even when not in tourneys this is looked down upon as its pretty much impossible to get the appropriate HP's in the carts so yeah.
- "image removed"Crazy move you are not used to. Did you know the Nido's get Lovely Kiss or that Golem could Rapid Spin ?
NYPC Events said:
References and Guides.
https://www.smogon.com/gs/pokemon/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22533
https://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51778 <--is a little swearing, nothing too much though. Both are a good resource either way for Team Building. Remember Balanced teams without a goal or strategy fail (in any gen)!
Both these are good guides though.
Anyways i hope after reading this you "might" consider giving this gen a go, honestly its really fun and is my fav generations because it takes skill to actually win matches here.
Thoughts/experiences of competitive GSC ? Have/Would you try it ? Did you enjoy it and what did/do you think of it? Discuss ^_^
Oh btw guys, link to netbattle is in my sig which is where you can play it, not many play it but im always up for it so if you slip me a vm ill gladly battle you.
EDIT : Im also up for questions, im not that good but ill prolly be able to help you out with stuff or answer your questions. Sets, strategies, team building you name it ill try to help you lol
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