Help on the "best"* Physical sweeper

seanmorely said:
BPing Ninjask for support might help the Ramparados sweeping. When talking about 4 levels of speed, that will make a difference. Especially when combining it with a Salac/Endure set.

If played correctly a CB Slaking can also wreck teams.

However, the most effective basic physical sweepers are probably Agilgross and Garchomp. Dragonite can take decent hits but is pretty slow, so he lacks true sweeping potential. I never really liked Tyranitar, but DDtar can sweep an entire team if played well. Salamence could work, but with the rise of specsmence lately, I can't really decide which set suits him best.

I really don't like all the 4x weaknesses on most of them though, so I would go for Agiligross. Metagross is pretty much a beast after an Agility and has nice type coverage and a great movepool. It can be a nice SkarmBliss counter with Thunderpunch for skarm and a EQ/MM for Blissey.
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Yeah, Rampy is a beast with Jask support.But if BlazikenDude doesn't want trouble with JaskPassing, I recommend Garchomp, Life Orb Weavile and Scarfcross
 
All three?my team was going to be:
#1:Special Sweeper:Gengar(moveset at bottom)
#2:Physical Sweeper:Weavile
#3:Special Wall:???
#4:Physical Wall:??
#5:Supporter/Mixed Sweeper:???
#6:Supporter/Tank:???
but if you think I should change that then tell me but I want a Moveset for Weavile as it is now!
What is a Sweeper/Wall called?


Gengar@Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SATK/ 252 SPEED/ 4 HP
Shadowball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Hypnosis
 
Give Gengar Wide Lens so Hypnosis and Focus Blast hit more

Weavile@Focus Sash
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 ATK/ 252 SPEED/ 4 HP

Night Slash
Ice Punch
Brick Break
Swords Dance

^ Swords Dance Sweeper

Weavile@Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 ATK/ 252 SPEED/ 4 HP

Night Slash
Ice Punch
Brick Break
AA

^regular sweeper.

Blissey/Snorlax/milo is common for special walls.

Steelix/Skarmory/Tangrowth/Forry are physical walls.

Swampy/Milo/Rhyperior are tanks

Infernape/Lucario are mixed sweepers.
 
Blazikendude said:
oh ok so like Rhyperior is a Tank?
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Pretty much. Rhyperior has 140 base attack and 130 base defense. It can take physical hits and give an even harder hit to his opponent. Sweeping fails with his ridiculous 40 base speed though.

On other sites (like gamefaqs) a pseudo-annoyer wall is sometimes referred to as a tank, but I don't think that it suits the context here on PC with pokes like Swampert, Rhypherior, etc.
 
seanmorely said:
Pretty much. Rhyperior has 140 base attack and 130 base defense. It can take physical hits and give an even harder hit to his opponent. Sweeping fails with his ridiculous 40 base speed though.
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It has fantastic HP.

Rhyperior's goal is to do as much damage as possible while absorbing a lot of attacks, it can resist Fighting type moves like Close Combat.
 
Blissey has a huge, chunky, fat bunch of HP a lot with a (see before) of Special Defense. Snorlax has it too but Snorlax can actually do a lot of damage.
 
Blazikendude said:
ok thank you guys well I am on the search for the "best" Special wall!
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THE special wall is Blissey. With high Sp. Def and MASSIVE HP it's probably the best and most OU Special wall. Add natural cure and the fact that it learns aromatherapy, makes it a great competitive poke.

Regice is also an excellent special wall, but I don't know if he's uber, so I'll have to check on that.

Dusknoir and Milotic are also OU, but a welcome alternative to the one million Blisseys in Competitive Battling. Milotic can also get a nice offense in and Dusknoir is a great staller/annoyer with the ability to learn WoW.

Snorlax can do it as well, but I like Snorlax better as a tank, rather than an all out special wall. It's really up to you.
 
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