Help with making a surfable lake

[wodolo]

Hi guys, first of all I'd like to thanks in advance for solving my dumb question, yes, I know it will sound noobish but I haven't used RPG maker since 2005 and I'm a little rusty. I'll explain my problem with a little example:

I'd like to do a surfable lake. So I take a titleset with only 3 materials: Empty, Sand and Water. I set the sand as walkable, the Water as not walkable and "Terrain flag" 7, I set my "empty" material as walkable and "terrain flag" 7 too. Now my problem is...

1.) If I put, SAND, in layer 1, and WATER, in the layer 2, nothing happens. I can just walk through it.
2.) If I put SAND, in layer 1, WATER, in layer 2, and use layer 3 to put and fill it with "empty squares" I can surf it, but just the first square, since I got stuck as soon as I start surf in the same spot.

Now my question is, how do I make a lake surfable? I know it sounds stupid but I really need help. I don't know if I messed with the SCRIPTS or something but I just cannot make water surfable, just walkable or like an invisible walk.

thanks in advance, really, I'm bloody stupid lol.

EDIT:

I'll edit my answer to clarify what happens.

I'm using this current titleset, with this preferences:

https://imageshack.com/i/p5QoyOLjj

If I use them to make a map that's what happens:

https://imageshack.com/i/p81uIQfWj

If I put everything on layer 2, and leaves layer 1 empty, The grey borders are visible, so I have to put grass under the water (using layer 1)

So it fits this way:

https://imageshack.com/i/p5uJusFXj

The problem is, now the water is walkable. And if I use layer 3 (using and empty square) to make it surfable, it just won't

That's the issue. I'm bloody lost and I dont know what to do

 

[Rot8er_ConeX]

I believe that the surfable lake is done through terrain tags. Set the lake as walkable, then set its terrain tag to a certain value and the scripts that Essentials uses will do the rest.

 

[wodolo]

I believe that the surfable lake is done through terrain tags. Set the lake as walkable, then set its terrain tag to a certain value and the scripts that Essentials uses will do the rest.

Not working but thanks man

 

[silentgamer64]

"Blank" Tiles are generally set to Terrain Tag "0". It may not solve your problem, but it's just good practice, since the blank tiles are what you're going to use to delete other tiles in the three layers. Otherwise you're going to have a blank tile that is basically acting like invisible water.


Also make sure the sand and blank tiles are set to "passable" and the water tile is set to "unpassable". Set the sand terrain tag to either 0 or 3 (3 is specifically for sand but either one works).


What I usually do for maps with water is paint the entire map with sand as the first layer, then use water tiles on the second layer. I use the third layer for rocks on the water or whatever you're using to border off the map. Since sand is on the first layer, you can still use the other two layers to tile additional details on land, as long as they don't overlap with the water.

 

[wodolo]

"Blank" Tiles are generally set to Terrain Tag "0". It may not solve your problem, but it's just good practice, since the blank tiles are what you're going to use to delete other tiles in the three layers. Otherwise you're going to have a blank tile that is basically acting like invisible water.


Also make sure the sand and blank tiles are set to "passable" and the water tile is set to "unpassable". Set the sand terrain tag to either 0 or 3 (3 is specifically for sand but either one works).


What I usually do for maps with water is paint the entire map with sand as the first layer, then use water tiles on the second layer. I use the third layer for rocks on the water or whatever you're using to border off the map. Since sand is on the first layer, you can still use the other two layers to tile additional details on land, as long as they don't overlap with the water.

I set:
The Sand as passable, terrain tag:0. I placed it in layer 3.
The water as unwalkable, terrain tag: 5. I placed it in layer 2.
(The third layer is reserved to rocks and stuff)


It just don't let me surf, when I aproach water it says: "seems the water is surfable, want to surf?" I say "yes" and it just don't go through, just mount into the pokemon and get blocked by an invisible wall. Even if I put it inside the water using the control key (debug mode) I just keep stuck there into invisible walls. And I don't know why. Any idea?

Maybe I messed something with the scripts. Do you have any idea where in the scripts is the tiles properties localed :S?

 

[silentgamer64]

I set:
The Sand as passable, terrain tag:0. I placed it in layer 3.
The water as unwalkable, terrain tag: 5. I placed it in layer 2.
(The third layer is reserved to rocks and stuff)


It just don't let me surf, when I aproach water it says: "seems the water is surfable, want to surf?" I say "yes" and it just don't go through, just mount into the pokemon and get blocked by an invisible wall. Even if I put it inside the water using the control key (debug mode) I just keep stuck there into invisible walls. And I don't know why. Any idea?

Maybe I messed something with the scripts. Do you have any idea where in the scripts is the tiles properties localed :S?

It looks like PField_Field and PBTerrain is where you'll find scripts related to terrain tags, but I'm wondering if it has anything to do with your blank tile. I know I've had issues in the past where I accidentally used the wrong blank tile to erase parts of my map. If you don't use the very first blank tile in the top left corner of your tileset when erasing tiles on your map, it could cause passability issues that you can't see. If you can't find anything wrong with your scripts, the only other suggestion I have is to make sure you're using the right blank tile when erasing parts of your maps.

 

[wodolo]

It looks like PField_Field and PBTerrain is where you'll find scripts related to terrain tags, but I'm wondering if it has anything to do with your blank tile. I know I've had issues in the past where I accidentally used the wrong blank tile to erase parts of my map. If you don't use the very first blank tile in the top left corner of your tileset when erasing tiles on your map, it could cause passability issues that you can't see. If you can't find anything wrong with your scripts, the only other suggestion I have is to make sure you're using the right blank tile when erasing parts of your maps.

I've found where the error was, it was caused for this script:

#==============================================================================
# ** Big Events System v1.0
#------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# Autor: Wecoc
# No se requieren créditos
#==============================================================================

#==============================================================================
# ** Game_Character
#==============================================================================

class Game_Character
attr_accessor :ch_width
attr_accessor :ch_height
alias big_chars_ini initialize unless $@
def initialize(*args)
big_chars_ini(*args)
@ch_width = 1
@ch_height = 1
end

def ch_area
area_array = []
for ix in 0...@ch_width
for iy in 0...@ch_height
dx = (@ch_width - 1) / 2
dy = (@ch_height - 1)
area_array.push([@x - dx + ix, @y - dy + iy])
end
end
return area_array
end

alias big_chars_screen_x screen_x unless $@
def screen_x
sx = big_chars_screen_x
if @ch_width % 2 == 0
sx += 16
end
return sx
end

def passable?(x, y, d)
new_x = x + (d == 6 ? 1 : d == 4 ? -1 : 0)
new_y = y + (d == 2 ? 1 : d == 8 ? -1 : 0)
unless $game_map.valid?(new_x, new_y)
return false
end
if @through
return true
end
unless $game_map.passable?(x, y, d, self)
return false
end
unless $game_map.passable?(new_x, new_y, 10 - d)
return false
end
for event in $game_map.events.values
for coord in event.ch_area
if coord == [new_x, new_y]
unless event.through
if self != $game_player
return false
end
if event.character_name != ""
return false
end
end
end
end
end
if $game_player.x == new_x and $game_player.y == new_y
unless $game_player.through
if @character_name != ""
return false
end
end
end
return true
end
end

#==============================================================================
# ** Game_Event
#==============================================================================

class Game_Event < Game_Character
def over_trigger?
if @character_name != "" and not @through
return false
end
for coord in self.ch_area
unless $game_map.passable?(coord[0], coord[1], 0)
return false
end
end
return true
end

def check_event_trigger_auto
if @trigger == 2
for coord in self.ch_area
if coord == [$game_player.x, $game_player.y]
if not jumping? and over_trigger?
start
end
end
end
end
if @trigger == 3
start
end
end

def refresh
new_page = nil
unless @erased
for page in @event.pages.reverse
c = page.condition
if c.switch1_valid
if $game_switches[c.switch1_id] == false
next
end
end
if c.switch2_valid
if $game_switches[c.switch2_id] == false
next
end
end
if c.variable_valid
if $game_variables[c.variable_id] < c.variable_value
next
end
end
if c.self_switch_valid
key = [@map_id, @event.id, c.self_switch_ch]
if $game_self_switches[key] != true
next
end
end
new_page = page
break
end
end
if new_page == @page
return
end
setup_page(new_page)
end

def setup_page(new_page)
@page = new_page
clear_starting
if @page == nil
@tile_id = 0
@character_name = ""
@character_hue = 0
@move_type = 0
@through = true
@trigger = nil
@list = nil
@interpreter = nil
return
end
@tile_id = @page.graphic.tile_id
@character_name = @page.graphic.character_name
@character_hue = @page.graphic.character_hue
if @original_direction != @page.graphic.direction
@direction = @page.graphic.direction
@original_direction = @direction
@prelock_direction = 0
end
if @original_pattern != @page.graphic.pattern
@pattern = @page.graphic.pattern
@original_pattern = @pattern
end
@opacity = @page.graphic.opacity
@blend_type = @page.graphic.blend_type
@move_type = @page.move_type
@move_speed = @page.move_speed
@move_frequency = @page.move_frequency
@move_route = @page.move_route
@move_route_index = 0
@move_route_forcing = false
@walk_anime = @page.walk_anime
@step_anime = @page.step_anime
@direction_fix = @page.direction_fix
@through = @page.through
@always_on_top = @page.always_on_top
@trigger = @page.trigger
@list = @page.list
@interpreter = nil
if @trigger == 4
@interpreter = Interpreter.new
end
check_event_trigger_auto
get_list_codes
end

def get_list_codes
result = check_for_comment(/CH_WIDTH (.+)/i)
if result != false
@ch_width = result.to_i
end
result = check_for_comment(/CH_HEIGHT (.+)/i)
if result != false
@ch_height = result.to_i
end
end

def check_for_comment(regexp)
return false if @list.nil?
for item in @list
if item.code == 108 or item.code == 408
if !item.parameters[0][regexp].nil?
return $1.nil? ? true : $1
end
end
end
return false
end
end

#==============================================================================
# ** Game_Player
#==============================================================================

class Game_Player < Game_Character
def check_event_trigger_here(triggers)
result = false
if $game_system.map_interpreter.running?
return result
end
for event in $game_map.events.values
if triggers.include?(event.trigger)
if not event.jumping? and event.over_trigger?
for coord in event.ch_area
if coord == [@x, @y]
event.start
result = true
end
end
end
end
end
return result
end

def check_event_trigger_there(triggers)
result = false
if $game_system.map_interpreter.running?
return result
end
new_x = @x + (@direction == 6 ? 1 : @direction == 4 ? -1 : 0)
new_y = @y + (@direction == 2 ? 1 : @direction == 8 ? -1 : 0)
for event in $game_map.events.values
if triggers.include?(event.trigger)
if not event.jumping? and not event.over_trigger?
for coord in event.ch_area
if coord == [new_x, new_y]
event.start
result = true
end
end
end
end
end
if result == false
if $game_map.counter?(new_x, new_y)
new_x += (@direction == 6 ? 1 : @direction == 4 ? -1 : 0)
new_y += (@direction == 2 ? 1 : @direction == 8 ? -1 : 0)
for event in $game_map.events.values
if triggers.include?(event.trigger)
if not event.jumping? and not event.over_trigger?
for coord in event.ch_area
if coord == [new_x, new_y]
event.start
result = true
end
end
end
end
end
end
end
return result
end

def check_event_trigger_touch(x, y)
result = false
triggers = [1, 2]
if $game_system.map_interpreter.running?
return result
end
for event in $game_map.events.values
if triggers.include?(event.trigger)
if not event.jumping? and not event.over_trigger?
for coord in event.ch_area
if coord == [x, y]
event.start
result = true
end
end
end
end
end
return result
end
end

#==============================================================================
# ** Game_Map
#==============================================================================

class Game_Map
def passable?(x, y, d, self_event = nil)
unless valid?(x, y)
return false
end
bit = (1 << (d / 2 - 1)) & 0x0f
for event in events.values
if event.tile_id >= 0 and event != self_event and not event.through
for coord in event.ch_area
if coord == [x, y]
if @passages[event.tile_id] & bit != 0
return false
elsif @passages[event.tile_id] & 0x0f == 0x0f
return false
elsif @priorities[event.tile_id] == 0
return true
end
end
end
end
end
for i in [2, 1, 0]
tile_id = data[x, y, i]
if tile_id == nil
return false
elsif @passages[tile_id] & bit != 0
return false
elsif @passages[tile_id] & 0x0f == 0x0f
return false
elsif @priorities[tile_id] == 0
return true
end
end
return true
end
end

I was using it to make some character biggers, like snorlax, caravans, bikes, etc.

I deleted it and solved the error, now I have to find some big event script working with pokemon essentials, anyway, you helped me a lot man, really, thanks!

 

[Rot8er_ConeX]

Actually, in Essentials, the size of the event is the size of the image you used for the event. If, for example, you want a Giant Snorlax event to block the character's way, just take a Snorlax event sprite and use a photo editor to upscale that image.

 

[wodolo]

Actually, in Essentials, the size of the event is the size of the image you used for the event. If, for example, you want a Giant Snorlax event to block the character's way, just take a Snorlax event sprite and use a photo editor to upscale that image.

are you sure about that? If I place a giant snorlax as an event, I can see it, but I can traspass it, it's pasable, (not in the center where the event is but the rest is walkable), how can I fix that :S?

 

[Maruno]

Make more, invisible events to fill in the spaces. Each event should have the same interactions (e.g. check for a Poké Flute and cause a wild battle). When you disable one (due to defeating/capturing the Snorlax), disable them all. Only one of the events needs a graphic.

 

[wodolo]

Oh, I see, thank you very much you all guys, seriously, you helped me a lot! thanks, thanks, and once more, thanks!