High oil prices here to stay

Something good that I hope to come of these high prices is the idea of more people using alternate energy sources, especially when it comes to cars and that sort of thing. Global warming is an issue right now, despite whether or not a government says it isn't. Cutting back on gas and oil will probably help the good cause.
 
People in the States get gas cheap, compaired to people in Europe. It's much more expensive over here than the States. Last time I heard, it's about $6 a gallon or so in Germany, and that's about half of even the higest prices in the states.
So, I wouldn't be complaining about it. People in the US are more lucky than they think. :/
 
Well South Africa have the highest petrol rates in the world><Its a fact and it went up by 55c a liter which is really expensive...and It so stupid
 
If I didn't know better I'd say Ahmadinejad is just trying to wangle money into the nuclear programme in Iran.

I remember reading about a gas station in Brooklyn that charged $4.14 at the cheapest, but when the Daily News got out with it the owner swiftly changed the prices.
 
In a few years, I hope america runs its vehicles on other things besides oil. In south america in the spanish countries. Their people run their cars on corn oil. The vehicles run just fine. This is what america needs to do. But since Bush makes a living off of oil. This will not happen any time soon. And if our next president is an ass like Bush. We're pretty much screwed
 
enyce said:
In a few years, I hope america runs its vehicles on other things besides oil. In south america in the spanish countries. Their people run their cars on corn oil. The vehicles run just fine. This is what america needs to do. But since Bush makes a living off of oil. This will not happen any time soon. And if our next president is an ass like Bush. We're pretty much screwed
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I fear that we may yet get ANOTHER war mongering oil fascist in the White House for 2009! Will this never end!??

Didn't Shrubster himself say in the State of the Union (crap) about supporting the development of alternative energy? Another lie exposed! I wouldn't trust him to lead us in alternative fuels development any more than I should be made to believe that Saudi Arabia and their regime are our (supposed) "friends"
 
For one thing Gas and Oil are two different things, second....This shouldnt be discussed because it might probly turn into a political issue. DX But I really have no say in that so I'll leave it alone. =x
 
enyce said:
In a few years, I hope america runs its vehicles on other things besides oil. In south america in the spanish countries. Their people run their cars on corn oil. The vehicles run just fine. This is what america needs to do. But since Bush makes a living off of oil. This will not happen any time soon. And if our next president is an ass like Bush. We're pretty much screwed
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No, it won't make a difference. The corn for ethanol is scarcer than oil is and countries aren't as willing to export it for obvious reasons. And by converting to ethanol some gas stations have actually had to shut down. This means it's nowhere near as cost-effective to use ethanol now.
 
Cost effectiveness is the reason why no countries run alternative energy source except for gas in Naminé's unimportant and inaccurate opinion. The effective use of money is far too important compare to the other "minor" advantages, such as the environment.

Naminé thought that gas and oil are from the same source, but the two are in different states of matters. She always saw them as substances that are similar enough to be identical. Guess that she should stop falling asleep in class~
 
I'd want to get out of here then

Genesee Avenue said:
I fear that we may yet get ANOTHER war mongering oil fascist in the White House for 2009! Will this never end!??

Didn't Shrubster himself say in the State of the Union (crap) about supporting the development of alternative energy? Another lie exposed! I wouldn't trust him to lead us in alternative fuels development any more than I should be made to believe that Saudi Arabia and their regime are our (supposed) "friends"
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I'm seriously thinking about hauling my butt out of this increasingly ridiculous country if that ever happens!
 
I agree with sammy, in europe gas is a lot more expensive, especially in the time arround easter. In terms of alternative energy sources, germany makes intensive use of wind power stations. Unfortunately there are nearly no alternatives to a gas-engined car right now :(
As for oil debates concerning iran and iraq, I personally dont care about the oilt there, but I pray something will happen before the iraq can research nuclear weapons :\
 
To quote Bush, "America is addicted to oil" the reason mainly because unlike Brazil, we may have some corn ethonal, but we have cars that aren't flex-fuel and that is a problem because with in 3 to 4 years we will be out of gas or pretty close, meaning that gas could be charged at un-realistic prices... and its already getting bad by the end of this year here in Minnesota gas prices will be around FOUR DOLLARS per gallon!!!!

But car manufactures like Ford and GM are already in trouble if they don't come up with a plan for the future... America is obsessed with power, meaning more powerful cars with less and less miles per gallon...Like SUV's and some Trucks, and we can't forget the HUMMER...

GO TOYOTA you have the right idea, you will lead the wave in ethonal flex-fuel cars I just know it. One more thing next year Brazil hopes to be oil independent meaning if something happens in IRAQ they will continue living their lives like nothing happened...think about change needs to happen now.
 
Chase Leader said:
To quote Bush, "America is addicted to oil" the reason mainly because unlike Brazil, we may have some corn ethonal, but we have cars that aren't flex-fuel and that is a problem because with in 3 to 4 years we will be out of gas or pretty close, meaning that gas could be charged at un-realistic prices... and its already getting bad by the end of this year here in Minnesota gas prices will be around FOUR DOLLARS per gallon!!!!

But car manufactures like Ford and GM are already in trouble if they don't come up with a plan for the future... America is obsessed with power, meaning more powerful cars with less and less miles per gallon...Like SUV's and some Trucks, and we can't forget the HUMMER...

GO TOYOTA you have the right idea, you will lead the wave in ethonal flex-fuel cars I just know it. One more thing next year Brazil hopes to be oil independent meaning if something happens in IRAQ they will continue living their lives like nothing happened...think about change needs to happen now.
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right now the prices in germany are:
1 liter = 3,78 gallons
1 liter = 1,3 euro
~5 euro per gallon
1 EUR = 1,2422 USD
=>~6,2 dollar per gallon and I believe it will become even more ridiculous :(
I hope more Car manufactures will change their mind and focus on low miles per galon/kilometers per liter, and on gas (the gaseous stuff) powered vehicles as well.
 
doggone republicrats and big oil

To quote Bush, "America is addicted to oil" the reason mainly because unlike Brazil, we may have some corn ethonal, but we have cars that aren't flex-fuel and that is a problem because with in 3 to 4 years we will be out of gas or pretty close, meaning that gas could be charged at un-realistic prices... and its already getting bad by the end of this year here in Minnesota gas prices will be around FOUR DOLLARS per gallon!!!!
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I predict as high as $10 per gallon by the 2008 elections. They may stay that high FOR PERMANENT if we get another warmonger or oil fascist in the White House!

You can also thank our Republicrat government for stifiling near to death development of alternative fuels that we so desperately need now! It doesn't help either that the cronies in the White House back Big Oil and their massive profits, plus their diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia and other Islamic regimes that export oil. I wouldn't be suprised if our politicians would like to align prices with those in Europe! :<

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Or this could all be yet more having to "compete in the global marketplace" bullcrap.
 
The price of petrol here in Australia is just getting out of hand. In Sydney the price per litre rose to $1.45. Now that just insane. The main reason thats happening here in Australia is becasue the government has handed power to the oil dealers and they can set the price to what ever they want (its not regulated by the government anymore).
This is really making me mad becasue il be getting my lisense in about a year and the oil prices are said to just keep soaring.
 
Here in the UK, things are just as slow to move away from oil onto alternative fuels. There's about one petrol station right now in the whole country that sells ethanol, and ethanol cars are on the way, though they'll take a few years to appear and even longer to be economically viable.

What I don't get is, we have the technology to abandon oil completely. There's wind power, wave power, solar, hydro-electric has been used for years, and people are going back to coal again (though the price of coal is increasing as the demand does). There's a huge demand of houses in the UK, and new houses are being build all the time, but still using the old infrastructure (gas pipes, water drainage etc). If the new houses were installed with solar panels and water butts, it would be a hell of a lot cheaper, both for the energy bill cost, and for the environment.

This is one of those topics I could go on about all day. So I'll stop for now.
 
I am willing to bet that the majority of people on this forum don't have their drivers license, so they don't even have to pay for gasoline. I do, and let me tell you , it ISN'T THAT BAD! When you put things in perspective we are paying cheap for gas, and we were just spoiled by cheap prices for so many years.
President Bush isn't to blame for the price of oil, although he seems to be a very common scapegoat for many problems that people have.

The truth is that if you just stop believing everything mommy and daddy tell you and maybe you do some research on your own, you will know that the President isn't a "fascist" or whatever you uneducated people are calling him.
 
My parents are like paying 2.99 for gas in New Jersey, which is really expensive. I think the USA needs to seek another alternative fuels like ethnol instead relying on oil. If the US don't stop it's oil addiction, the prices of gas will go higher and soon we won't be able to go anywhere because gas is too expensive.
 
According to what Naminé understands about ethanol, isn't it more expensive to rely on ethanol than oil for the meantime? Naminé thinks that although it cost less to produce alcoholic fuel such as ethanol from agriculture like corn (isn't it called biomass or something? Naminé fell asleep in chemistry class so she doesn't remember it too well.), they are only available in the summer season to be produced, and they require a lot of time. Farmers need to grow the crops and then convert it to a usable fuel, while oil requires a much less processing time. There is also the problem to Naminé that farmers may see this alternate fuel as more profitable than traditional agriculture for food production, and that may upset the balance for food and so on~ Perhaps a decade later, the car industry will find some more economic way to produce engines that rely on alcoholic fuel, and maybe a balance can be reached about the processing/food problems for farmers too~

It's all a confusing mess for Naminé that she will never understand. As for the meantime, Naminé shall not even bother with her learner license even though she could get it a year ago. She isn't looking forward to the high oil price and the car insurance cost at all~
 
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