4th Gen Ho-Oh/Lugia

I think they'll include both. You could in the old versions, so it wouldn't really make sense if you couldn't do the same in the remakes. Unless, of course, they introduce a new area/feature/legendary that nullifies this reasoning.
 
If they do happen to keep them version exclusive, then what will they do with either the Whirl Islands and/or the Tin Towers? I mean face it, there will be really no point visiting these places without the legendaries. Now, if they held the storyline centering the Legendaries like what was done with RSE and DPPt, then I get that. Except, Team Rocket was never after them, but rather to gain extra money, and fast by doing crime around Johto.

Seeing as this is so, there would be no point in keeping them seperate. The purpose for the two versions is to hold exclusive Pokémon, and for this it means something other than the legendaries [I would think.] Anyway, if they happen to do seperate them, unlike how it was done in the orignals, then they'll definitely need to make an improvement to two certain locations to actually give the place a point to be apart of the game.

They definitely cannot remove [Tin Towers/Whirl Islands] them depending on what version you have, because that'll jstt create an overdose for complaints. It'll definitely be a bigger issue than what the new female had brought for some time. To me though, nothing should be altered with these two, as it made Gold and Silver different as well as it'll make HeartGold and SoulSilver different too.
 
I don't see them going version exclusive, because, as everyone has said, these are remakes, so there aren't many story changes. I'm sure the items will be the key to collecting them, and I'm sure you'll be able to get both items same as G/S.

However, if they do happen to go version exclusive, I suppose, like Haza said, it would give me a reason to buy both games.
 
PokemonFanatic2 said:
I don't think you will be able to get both, because they only do that in 3rd game sof the generation like emerald and platinum, so if they remade crystal then you would probably be able to get both.
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I doubt crystal will be remade cos like yellow, which is the 3rd of the series didn't got remade so i am 99% sure that they won't remake crystal
 
In My Opinion You Won't Be Able To Get Them Both In Game Without Trading.
Soulsilver - Lugia Only.
Heartgold - Ho-oh Only.

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P l a t i n u m said:
In My Opinion You Won't Be Able To Get Them Both In Game Without Trading.​


Soulsilver - Lugia Only.
Heartgold - Ho-oh Only.​

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The thing is, in the originals we had Silver which was cleary representing Lugia and Gold which stood for Ho-Oh. And they were both available in each game. For example, in Silver Lugia was found at the Whirl Islands after obtaining the Silver Wing in Kanto at level 40. While, after you got the Rainbow Wing in the game you can visit Tin Towers and access a lv. 70 Ho-Oh and vise-versa for Gold. So, the same thing may just be implemented in the remakes as it gives the two locations [Whirl Islands and Tin Towers] a purpose in the game. Or else, they'd just be no purpose for one or the other if held exclusively.
 
f l a s h said:
The thing is, in the originals we had Silver which was cleary representing Lugia and Gold which stood for Ho-Oh. And they were both available in each game. For example, in Silver Lugia was found at the Whirl Islands after obtaining the Silver Wing in Kanto at level 40. While, after you got the Rainbow Wing in the game you can visit Tin Towers and access a lv. 70 Ho-Oh and vise-versa for Gold. So, the same thing may just be implemented in the remakes as it gives the two locations [Whirl Islands and Tin Towers] a purpose in the game. Or else, they'd just be no purpose for one or the other if held exclusively.
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I agree. And the outrage from fans would be incredible if they made them version-exclusive.
 
I suppose you'll get them both in each version. But I'd like to see that the man in Petwer City doesn't give you the Wing, but another new-plot-element. Like a new adventure, and in the end you get the Wing. Perhaps the man in Petwer City now will take you again to the Museum (asumming he is the same one of FireRed/LeafGreen who does it), if it's open obviously.
 
I have a feeling both Lugia and Ho-Oh will be kept, but I have slight doubts. The only reason is because implementing legendary exclusivity helps make each game more unique.

By keeping both members of the "Tower Duo" in both games, it becomes another thing both games have in common (and they have A LOT in common, just like all paired versions of main series games). Besides certain Pokemon and the game's mascot, the games are exactly identical (unless I'm overlooking any other differentiating factors). It renders the whole "Versions" schtick useless, IMO.

Now, if the games' plots were different (similar to how past "third versions" have had minor/major plot revisions to distance themselves from the paired versions' shared plot), that would make each version more unique, which could warrant including both legendary mascots in both games.

Here's hoping both Lugia and Ho-Oh are catchable in both HeartGold and SoulSilver! I'm just worried about the eventual detraction from each games' uniqueness, even though it's a minor difference. :t249: :t250:
 
I think you will be able to get them both in one game.
In the old gold and silver that was possible, but the mascot was found first and was a lower level.
 
Both Ho-oh and Lugia are available in the original games. The only difference is that the mascot is captured at a lower level, thus having its signature move. However, knowing Nintendo, they may make the birds exclusive, resorting people to either buy both or trade. More profits.

Regardless, I have both birds from the Gamecube games and event, so I'm not worried.
 
Peccadillo said:
Both Ho-oh and Lugia are available in the original games. The only difference is that the mascot is captured at a lower level, thus having its signature move. However, knowing Nintendo, they may make the birds exclusive, resorting people to either buy both or trade. More profits.

Regardless, I have both birds from the Gamecube games and event, so I'm not worried.
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Besides the point of wanting fans to buy both games. I still believe Lugia and Ho-Oh may be held in both available games. It gives purpose to why the Tin Towers and Whirl Islands are found in the game as well.

With this being said, I would think GameFreak [not Nintendo] added in exclusive Kyogre and Groudon for a purpose. Not to mention you need both to activate catching Rayquaza. Besides having the ability to obtain the Hoenn legendaries, having them exclusive in each version, will also promote fans to buy both games over one. So, I think this was a good plan on GameFreak's and Nintendo's way on keeping the high increase of income and selling both games over a favored one for the players.
 
The original had both, so I can think of no reason for Nintendo to change that. Even though Groudon and Kyogre are exclusive as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong), they are something that has been added. When they made FR/LG, even though they added stuff to the originals, they didn't take significant things like that away.
 
For anyone who is concerned, I can confirm that both are available in both games.
 
Greene1516 said:
For anyone who is concerned, I can confirm that both are available in both games.
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How can you confirm that? Most of us are pretty sure they are, but Nintendo has been cruel before.
 
f l a s h said:
Besides the point of wanting fans to buy both games.
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Not everyone wants to buy both games, hehe. I'm quite sick of buying three, but alas, gotta catch em all.

I still believe Lugia and Ho-Oh may be held in both available games. It gives purpose to why the Tin Towers and Whirl Islands are found in the game as well.
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True, but Kanto is found in GSC. With that logic, why are the bird trio and Mewtwo removed? Practically for no reason besides the "time skip." Alright, GSC focused on Johto and its legendaries, as well as RBY being quite recent during that time, but honestly, it could have been fine to keep the Kanto legendaries. Basically, if GameFreak/Nintendo (they're quite interchangeable, in my opinion) wanted to keep something out, they can keep something out.

With this being said, I would think GameFreak [not Nintendo] added in exclusive Kyogre and Groudon for a purpose. Not to mention you need both to activate catching Rayquaza. Besides having the ability to obtain the Hoenn legendaries, having them exclusive in each version, will also promote fans to buy both games over one.
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My apologies; I did not know about the Hoenn trio thing. However, it was bound to happen, as demonstrated in Platinum with the bird and regi trio are available for whatever bizarre reason. They just have the power to do that, hehe.

So, I think this was a good plan on GameFreak's and Nintendo's way on keeping the high increase of income and selling both games over a favored one for the players.
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Yeah, it's a good plan. Keep recycling pokemon and regions. I call a Hoenn remake after 5th gen.

Greene1516 said:
For anyone who is concerned, I can confirm that both are available in both games.
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Unless I missed something, source?
 
I think both of them may be in the both of the games as they are remakes of the originals and originals had them both. This reason is simple yet effective in my opinion. ( Nintendo can put them in different games just to make people buy both the games. But for some unknown reason I think that they may not do so and if in case they do it, I WILL be dissapointed). And yeah, Greene1516, from where did you got that SOLID proof ?
 
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