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4th Gen Hoenn more plausible to happen?

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    Im hoping for a little taste of Hoenn but not if it will distract attention from Kanto.
     
    derozio

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    • Myoko-chan said:
    FR/LG had plenty of extra post-game areas/events, and the rom size wasn't that impressive.
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    The rom size wasn't impressive as it was a GBA rom and there is a lot of difference in GBA roms and NDS roms. On topic: Hoenn will be cool but only if it doesn't affect the kanto and jhoto parts very badly. As I have already said hoenn is very unlikely to be in but just lets see what happens next. Maybe Nintendo and Gamefreak may surprise us big time!
     

    Mitchman

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    • Well this month's CoroCoro will reveal the secret of the weather trio that is a given but what is it is the question. So yeah its Hoenn or something else.
     

    Myoko-chan

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    • Crusher 1 said:
    The rom size wasn't impressive as it was a GBA rom and there is a lot of difference in GBA roms and NDS roms. On topic: Hoenn will be cool but only if it doesn't affect the kanto and jhoto parts very badly. As I have already said hoenn is very unlikely to be in but just lets see what happens next. Maybe Nintendo and Gamefreak may surprise us big time!
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    I meant compared to other GBA roms, it wasn't that impressive. -_-
    I also hope you realize that the maximum size of GBA and DS roms are the same.
     
    derozio

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    • Myoko-chan said:
    I also hope you realize that the maximum size of GBA and DS roms are the same.
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    I am sorry for that. I didn't knew that fact. I always thought that the maximum size of a GBA rom is 32 mb and the maximum for NDS roms is 256 mb. Can you please tell me where you got that piece of information?(Just asking. I am seriously not trying to be rude or something!)
     

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    • No Hoenn? Pleh. Consider the storage space used for the DS game cards (2 GBS), the SDHC (32 GBS) and not to mention, the fact that Game Freak has their special way of always adding more fun to their latest games.

    Hoenn should be in this game.



    Also, take notice of Kanto obviously being in there. This could render the GBA migration process useless.


    DS-i anyone?
     
    derozio

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    • Okay so now its proved that HGSS can contain Hoenn but it ultimately depends on Gamefreak and Nintendo to put it in.
     

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    • Crusher 1 said:
    I am sorry for that. I didn't knew that fact. I always thought that the maximum size of a GBA rom is 32 mb and the maximum for NDS roms is 256 mb. Can you please tell me where you got that piece of information?(Just asking. I am seriously not trying to be rude or something!)
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    A 32mb GBA game automatically expands to 256mb when written on to a GBA flash cart.
    You see it as 32 mb on the computer though. Well, that's what happened for me...I could be wrong...

    Ging said:
    No Hoenn? Pleh. Consider the storage space used for the DS game cards (2 GBS), the SDHC (32 GBS) and not to mention, the fact that Game Freak has their special way of always adding more fun to their latest games.

    Hoenn should be in this game.



    Also, take notice of Kanto obviously being in there. This could render the GBA migration process useless.


    DS-i anyone?
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    *facepalm*
    DS Flash carts use MicroSD cards for memory storage. Does it look like normal game catridges would allow you to freely put in MicroSD cards?! -_-
    and if you're talking about DSi storage, how will they even distribute the game...?
     

    Ging

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    • True... I was mistaken. :3 I could always go with the excuse that it's super late here!

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    Anyway, you never know what they could do. I'm just hoping for Hoenn.
     

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    Myoko-chan as far as i can tell your referring to the archive size which is the expanded size of the rom. As for 254mb being the maximum for this you are WAY off i just had a very quick look and found one that is 2024mb Dragon Quest IX: Hoshizora no Mamoribito. So there is no question of whether or not they can put it in but more will they put it in.

    I'm still undecided on this one as i didn't like hoenn because well it bored me to no end, almost all the pokemon added are bad excluding the pseudo-legendarys, swampert and breloom which i think are the only ones who see any competitive play anymore.
     

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    • deka01 said:
    Myoko-chan as far as i can tell your referring to the archive size which is the expanded size of the rom. As for 254mb being the maximum for this you are WAY off i just had a very quick look and found one that is 2024mb Dragon Quest IX: Hoshizora no Mamoribito. So there is no question of whether or not they can put it in but more will they put it in.

    I'm still undecided on this one as i didn't like hoenn because well it bored me to no end, almost all the pokemon added are bad excluding the pseudo-legendarys, swampert and breloom which i think are the only ones who see any competitive play anymore.
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    *facepalm*
    Dragon Quest IX isn't even released yet.
    (According to Kotaku, the "leaked" rom is malware and automatically bricks your DS.)
     

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    A Hoenn remake might happen but nowhere near now, i thnik they will release a hoenn remake after introducing the 5th generation pokemon in a series of games like the 4th generation was introduced in DPPt, and then the fans would have missed hoenn, and it should be an aniversery thnig of some sort like wat happened on HG/SS. As well, since R/S/E are still compatible with the current ds games, then theres really no need if the sole purpose is to get the hoenn pokemon into newer (or older) generations, although many signs of moving away from depending on GBA games has been shown through the DS games with the events and cameo pokemon and the R/S/E legends are now possible to obtain via event, so it seems nintendo is moving away from depending of previous games for completing the pokedex. so a remake including the Hoenn region, if it were to happen, will appear after games introducing the 5th generation have been released.
     

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    I really hope for a full universal game. Just think, all four regions in one game. Maybe even the possibility of four different championships to win. I believe the games should be longer than a 10 to 30 minute run though (Which is about my average time from starter to beating E4 and Champion), so we actually get our moneys worth from a good storyline and good game play.

    And if you disagree with me, remember, Im stating my opinion.
     
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    • Hiroshi Sotomura said:
    *headdesk*

    Game size does not expand; what you seem to be mixing up is Megabits (Mb) and Mebibytes (MiB, or erroneously, MB).

    The theoretical maximum size of a GBA game is 256 Megabits - 32 MiB. The Game Boy Advance development kits are designed to work around this limit as the programming pointer system can only address 256 Mb. On the other hand, the theoretical maximum size of a DS game is much much higher than 32 MiB. We've seen 256 MiB games, so if that's all we'll ever see, the maximum would probably be 2048 Megabits.

    Getting back on topic, the hurdle with including Johto would be development issues, costs or time. It should be said that FireRed and LeafGreen use about 5-6 MIB of the 16 MiB available in its game cartridge - a ROM hacker could tell you that much more could be stuffed in. Platinum didn't use all of its available space, either.
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    That solved a lot of confusion! So you mean to say that a lot of additions can be made to the HGSS if all of the space of the NDS cartridge is used?
     

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    I am doubtful, yet I am also hopeful.

    This would mean that DIVE would have to make a comeback.
    (Assuming this information is correct)
     
    derozio

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    • The more I think about it, the more I get doubtful on hoenn being in HG/SS. According to me: there have been only two remakes: FR/LG and HG/SS. They both are from 3rd and 4th gen respectively. FR/LG were remakes of the first Red/Green. They introduced some new features and some side-quests. Even sevii islands were added to make it a little longer. So as FR/LG didn't changed anything from the originals but only added new graphics, sound, some side quests and a little bit longer gameplay I think that even HG/SS will also do the same. HG/SS will have a revamped jhoto and kanto + Graphic and sound improvement + a little bit longer gameplay and some side quests. Thus I am assuming that hoenn won't be in from now on. I think that hoenn will be there maybe for 5th gen. I know that NDS cartridge has enough space for hoenn but its unlikely that it will be in.
     

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    • I don't think that Hoenn will be in the game.
    I still remember Silver. When I came to Kanto my Pokemon were very strong. After beating all 8 Kanto Gym Leaders my Pokemon were unbetable! They were at very high levels!
    And if Hoenn is in HG/SS then the Pokemon in the Hoenn Gyms would be at Lvl 100 o_0
    And the Pokemon League in Hoenn? Which Level will the Pokemon have? Higher than 100??? :D

    The reason why there are 2 regions in G/S/C is that Jotho doesn't have a Pokemon League. But Hoenn has one! So it won't be in the game.
     
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