• Ever thought it'd be cool to have your art, writing, or challenge runs featured on PokéCommunity? Click here for info - we'd love to spotlight your work!
  • Our weekly protagonist poll is now up! Vote for your favorite Trading Card Game 2 protagonist in the poll by clicking here.
  • Welcome to PokéCommunity! Register now and join one of the best fan communities on the 'net to talk Pokémon and more! We are not affiliated with The Pokémon Company or Nintendo.
    Register

Horus or Armed?

Which Lv Dragon Set Is Better

  • Black Flare Dragon of Horus Lv 4, 6, 8

    Votes: 8 88.9%

  • Armed Dragon Lv 3, 5, 7

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • Total voters
    9
Status
Not open for further replies.

Star Crossed Dreamer

Protector of the Chosen
    • 1,041
    Posts
    20
    Years
    • Seen Jul 8, 2009
    In Soul of the Duelist, which Lv Dragon set do you think is better? I prefer Black Flare Dragon of Horus. I say that because it has good attack power from the word go.
     
    I think Horus is better than Armed. It has been really hard for me to find those cards though. Out of all 6 of those, I've only been able to find Armed Dragon LV3, and it was in my 5th pack. Red-Eyes B. Chicks keep poping up instead. Out of 5 packs, I've pulled 4 of them. >_<
     
    I think horus is much better then Armed Dragon.He looks not so much as a regular monster.
     
    Horus...hands down. I run one of each level in my deck and they help me lock down my opponent with ease. Him and Jinzo stop my opponent from using any magic or traps. Add BLS Envoy of the Beginning and only tribe and exiled force can harm me then. GG, lol. :D
     
    Definately Horus.
    Rocket Executive said:
    Horus...hands down. I run one of each level in my deck and they help me lock down my opponent with ease. Him and Jinzo stop my opponent from using any magic or traps. Add BLS Envoy of the Beginning and only tribe and exiled force can harm me then. GG, lol. :D
    Click to expand...
    You've got similar strategy 2 me!!! But with Sorceror of Dark Magic instead of Jinzo n_n Though I don't have BLS EotB yet.
     
    Well, I don't have Armed Lvl. 7, but Horus is kinda spec to me 'coz i got lvl. 8 horus ultimate rare n___n And besides he looks so cool next 2 Soreceror of Dark Magic. I don't really like Armed Dragon, but that's my opinion. Anyway Armed's effect wouldn't beat horus if u boosted his ATK ;)
     
    Very true. Horus has a wonderful base attack, a devastating effect and an easy summoning requirement. He is IMO much better than armed dragon as he shuts down 1/3 or more of your opponents deck with his effect. Add Jinzo or Sorceror of Dark Magic and that's 2/3. Add Black Luster the Envoy and that's all but about 3 cards, DD warrior lady, tribe, and x-force. With enemy controller, only tribe and exiled can stop the lock, lol. They have a 3 out of 40 chance of stopping you at that point. Ouch...
     
    Armed's summoning requirement is just as easy, and his effect can devastate Horus. So what if you charge him up? And so what about jinzo or SoDM? SoDM will not work in a level Deck, and Jinzao would be fodder for Armed. And if you pack Blue Eyes into your deck, which I do, then Horus would go down. And of course as soon as he hits the feild there is Raigeki break, bottomless trap hole, Soolemn Judgement (THe only trap card that can destroy jinzo) So they can't lock you with those cards. Bacause Jinzo has become too easy to kill, SoDm is too hard to summon, and Horus can be just as easily victimized by cards as Armed. So if Anything I place them considerably even.
     
    If you boosted Horus' ATK by any amount, Armed wouldn't be able to destroy it by discarding Blue-Eyes, since Horus' ATK would be higher. Also, SoDM and Horus would work together if u made the deck with intention of stoping ur opponent from being able to do anything. And besides Raigeki break works just as well against Armed ;) And SoDM aint too hard 2 summon if u have a deck with plenty of spellcasters. But the point is that with Horus + SoDM u can stop your opponent from using a big chunk of his/her deck, but with Armed all u can do is destroy face-up monsters. And Armed is much more vulnerable than Horus since Spell Cards work against armed.
     
    Horus is harder to summon, SODM works well with any card, and he is harder to summon because exactly how many spellcasters do you know of that are 6 stars or higher? Not many. And if you boost Armed then he's stronger than horus too, so to speak of boosting in terms of the "which is better" equation isn't fair. In terms of straight up effects, Armed is more of a threat to Horus than Horus is a threat to Armed.
     
    Armed Dragon Lvl. 7 said:
    Send 1 monster from your hand to destroy all face-up monsters with an ATK equal to or less than the ATK of the sent monster.
    Click to expand...
    If you boost Horus' ATK by any amount, then there's not many monsters that Armed Dragon can send to the graveyard to destroy Horus (how many cards do u know that have more than 3000ATK? Not many). Horus also has higher base ATK, and Horus will be able to stop it's opponent from using equip cards to boost Armed Dragon's ATK anyway. Also, horus' effect is much more devastating, since ur opponent CAN'T use spell cards, while with armed dragon it only destroys FACE-UP monsters.
    OK, I agree with u that Armed may be more of a threat to Horus without boosting anyone's ATK, but then if ur going to include other monsters (discarding cards with armed dragon's ability), then u should include ATK-boosting cards aswell. Besides, if neither cards have boosted ATK then Armed's effect would destroy Armed as well as Horus (since armed's ATK is lower).

    EDIT: Oh and I can actually name a few lvl. 6+ spellcasters: Dark Magician/Dark Magician Girl, Dark Magician of Chaos, Chaos Command Magician, Chaos Sorceror. There's more but that's just a small collection.

    EDIT2: And I see u've not voted for Armed anyway. ;)
     
    Last edited:
    Yamichi said:
    If you boost Horus' ATK by any amount, then there's not many monsters that Armed Dragon can send to the graveyard to destroy Horus (how many cards do u know that have more than 3000ATK? Not many). Horus also has higher base ATK, and Horus will be able to stop it's opponent from using equip cards to boost Armed Dragon's ATK anyway. Also, horus' effect is much more devastating, since ur opponent CAN'T use spell cards, while with armed dragon it only destroys FACE-UP monsters.
    OK, I agree with u that Armed may be more of a threat to Horus without boosting anyone's ATK, but then if ur going to include other monsters (discarding cards with armed dragon's ability), then u should include ATK-boosting cards aswell. Besides, if neither cards have boosted ATK then Armed's effect would destroy Armed as well as Horus (since armed's ATK is lower).

    EDIT: Oh and I can actually name a few lvl. 6+ spellcasters: Dark Magician/Dark Magician Girl, Dark Magician of Chaos, Chaos Command Magician, Chaos Sorceror. There's more but that's just a small collection.

    EDIT2: And I see u've not voted for Armed anyway. ;)
    Click to expand...

    Armed's effect only applied to your' opponent's mosnters. If you discard something like a blue eyes, he does not kill himself. ANd the thing is, even a level 5 armed can do that, it just won't destroy all the monsters with that ability. Now I don't exaclty know Horus's ability, but judging by what you've said he can choose to negate magic cards. If you want to talk about that effect then just make sure you already have a Skill Drain face up on the feild to negate Jinzo or any other magic or trap stopper and then boost Armed and there you go. So like I said, adding additional cards to the equation makes it unfair. hte only reason why the blue eyes in teh hand counts is because I consider that card being involved with Armed's effect.

    Referring to edit one: What you've named is pretty much it, and notice that almost all of those cards are extremely rare and hard to find, al but chaos Sorcerer. Not exactly making SoDM an easy guy to pull, especially if your opponent makes it where you're spellcasters don't live long enough. Which is fairly easy to do with the cards that are out now a days.
    REferring to edit 2: I haven't bothered with it.

    Know that attack strength isn't everything. Horus may negate Magic cards but it's not Magic cards that carry a duel. It's the monsters. And that is where Armed comes in.
     
    Actually read my quote - it's the EXACT text on Armed Dragon. It says 'Send 1 monster from your hand to destroy ALL face-up monsters with an ATK equal to or less than the ATK of the sent monster.' ALL meaning every single one, including Armed.

    EDIT: And may I add you just added a new card in the equation - Skill Drain (which may i remind you stops Armed's effect too). If you used that then Horus would have more ATK than Armed, and if your going to including ATK-boosting cards (or likewise) to give Armed the advantage, then that's unfair too because your forgetting the player using Horus may have ATK-boosting cards too. So... Without boosting ATK, with Skill Drain in play then Horus still beats Armed. ;)
     
    Which is my point, which you seem to be forgetting. adding extra cards to the equation isn't fair. i was just giving examples.

    You lie about his effect. I have an Armed Dragon LV. 7, and his effect reads as follows:

    "This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by the effect of "Armed Dragon LV. 5". Send 1 monster card from your hand to the graveyard to destroy all face-up monsters on your opponent's side of the field with an ATk equal to or less than the ATK of the sent monster."

    If you're going to claim you have something exact, you should be sure of one of two things first:
    1. You are educated enough with the card to truly know the effect, or

    2. If you lie, make sure the person you're lying to doesn't already have the card.

    And you didn't exactly fit either qualification, did you?
     
    eep! yeah ur right, sorry. i admit to making a mistake, i guess i wasn't looking at it properly :paranoid:
    But still, i think Horus' effect is better since for Armed dragon's effect 2 work against Horus u would need 2 actually have a 3000+ atk monster in ur hand, which is generally less likely then having a card capable of boosting Horus' atk in ur hand, so what i'm trying to say is that horus has more of a chance of having over 3000 atk then armed has at destroying horus. And by the time u might get a 3000+ atk monster in ur hand armed might of already been destroyed. So you would have 2 time Armed Dragon's summoning perfectly, and while ur waiting for the right time, you'll have a strong 3000+ atk card devastating ur defenses without the ability to use spell cards to help you. Truly devastating is Horus. Besides he looks cooler, IMO.
     
    yeah i prefer horus
    because it's well drawn
    and the effect is superb IMO
     
    I've seen both cards, and IMO armed looks cooler.

    You also have to time Horus, because they give no specific time to activate Armed's effect, so you can activate it at any time you choose. And all you ahve to do is slip some blue eyes white dragons into your deck to make Armed as deadly as he can be. Which I have done with my armed dragon deck, and I almost always pull them thanks to get out all I need early. Or better yet, put a perfectly ultimate Great moth in there just in case. Something I can also do. And I speak from experience that people usually don't use Equip spells anymore. So it is actually a better chance for me to pull my monsters needed for Armed's effect than it is for the Horus user to get an equip spell.

    You seem to be under teh impression that that measely 200 point difference actually makes a difference. As I said earlier, attack strength alone isn't teh winning force, effect is. And monsters win duels, not magic. Horus stops magic, and armed stops monsters. So in terms of effect, Armed is much more devastating. Good duelists carry the duel with their monsters. NOt their magics. The most devastating duelists I fought rescently I don't recall playing a single magic besides Pot of greed. What I do recall is Jinzo, Vampire Lord, tribe infecting virus, etc. MOnsters carry the duel. Not hte magics. Magic negation? Big deal. Mosnter destruction? You better whatch out.

    ANd your still adding extra cards to the equation. So how about I do this then: Summone exiled force, tribute him and goodbye Horus. Not JInzo, SoDM, or even Horus himself can stop that.

    According to the summoning effect of the both the first forms, Armed is much easier to handle. Level 4 Horus has to kill something, while all level 3 armed has to do is live. an if you get him from a Masked Dragon, then it's all teh easier. However, in horus's case, a 16 hundred attack monster doesn't kill much nowadays. :\
     
    Status
    Not open for further replies.
    Back
    Top