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    Animal Hunting.Are you for it or anginst the sport of Animal Hunting.Share your comments.
     
    I don't like it, unless it's for survivle, then I think it's ok...
     
    I don't really like hunting, but even though we don't hunt, we eat the products/results of hunting. (Unless you're a veggie-eater) We should treat our food with respect, knowing where it comes from.
     
    I'm 100% against hunting. It sickens me. The only excuse anyone could have for hunting is over-population, but I still don't think it's right. Hunting for sport or food (when you have money to go to the grocery store) is one of the things that anger me most.

    No offense to people who do it. I just really like deer, rabbits, squirrels, ducks, and all those other animals that are shot at and have their lives taken away from them just because someone got a craving. I'm talking about all the people who shoot deer because they love deer meat. ><

    Again, no offense. ^^;
     
    Okay, vegitarian coming through (I'd be a vegan too but crap I'd starve! I don't think I can help save the poor chickens and cows if I'm dead! Persuation :))
    Anyways...
    I am 100% against hunting, killing animals, etc. Why? Because they feel pain and emotion almost EXACTLY the same as we do (ask logical resoning andf science if you don't believe me...)
    "Just because it doesn't talk doesn't mean we should kill it."
    Yeah. I hear a quote like that from something...
    Let's use chickens as an example, because they are my favorites and are treated probably the worst.
    Now maybe if chickens were not killed, treated very humanely and kindly, free of most pain, and had vet care, and one died naturally. Humans can eat it then. Or maybe if the chicken was killed painlessly after it had lived a relativily longish life, even if it wasn't sick.
    I still wouldn't eat it because that chicken was one of my billions of best friends of course.

    And yeah. Hunting? For sport? Like killing those innocent deer who are killed enough because of cars? That is plain wrong and mean.

    Just try to put yourself into one of these animal's shoes. Try to live with torture and pain everyday. Human or not, it doesn't matter. Pain and torture is the same to every animal.

    And now let me ramble on to the subject of plants...
    Plants may have feelings but they do not feel pain. Natural selection (for those of you who oppose this...I feel sorry that you cannot trust proof and evidence, but I respect your beliefs) says that animals feel pain to get away or stop whatever is causing damage to their body. Well as plants do not have that ability, the do not feel pain because it would not help them to survive.

    slysunshine said:
    I'm 100% against hunting. It sickens me. The only excuse anyone could have for hunting is over-population, but I still don't think it's right. Hunting for sport or food (when you have money to go to the grocery store) is one of the things that anger me most.
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    Would you rather have:
    A. A lifetime of torture and pain
    B. A quick death from a bullet

    Most people and animals if they could communicate like that to us would choose B. The animals that come from your local grocery store get A without a choice, and those deer get B.
     
    slysunshine said:
    I'm 100% against hunting. It sickens me. The only excuse anyone could have for hunting is over-population, but I still don't think it's right.
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    To me there are a lot more human than animals.Humans make more over populations.
     
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    Pokedragonfire said:
    Would you rather have:
    A. A lifetime of torture and pain
    B. A quick death from a bullet

    Most people and animals if they could communicate like that to us would choose B. The animals that come from your local grocery store get A without a choice, and those deer get B.
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    That's why I don't like eating meat. I don't support buying meat from the grocery store either. It's just that I get the "what if I'm starving" argument a lot. ^^;

    I guess I better not post in this topic anymore because it depresses me, and I don't want to offend anyone. XD
     
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    Hunting is what allowed the human race to survive back when we were in the pre-hominid point of evolution. I see nothign wrong with a man going out and sooting a deer to make some deerburgers or going fishing (which is another form of hunting when you think about it) to make fish sticks. As far as hunting for sport goes, I really have no opinion. I don't so it, I don't know anyone who does it (I actually knew someone who made his living as an angler, but he's been dead for a while). I know a lot of people may disagree with this statement, but I think we can apply Darwin's concept of "survival of the fittest" here. If the deer isn't fit enough to escape the hunter's bullet, he deserved to die anyways. XD
     
    I am fully against hunting for sport. The animal that one killed will have done nothing wrong, but it still died thanks to some trigger happy weirdo with a gun as long as his/her armspan. Just killing for the sake of it, IMO, is very very wrong.

    Hunting for food, I'm fine with. Animals kill other animals for food. That's just life. Cats kill mice (they might not eat them... but that's not the point XD), Tigers and bears kill anything XD Whales just open their mouth XD But tmbjr's statement... kinda explains it well IMO.
     
    I'm also 100% against hunting. Humans are so cruel to animals; they hunt them and eat their meat and such and such. In my opinion of the fact that humans aren't allowed to kill humans but they are allowed to kill animals is truly horrible and wrong. *makes a petition for the world to dine on plants and products*
     
    tmbjr said:
    I know a lot of people may disagree with this statement, but I think we can apply Darwin's concept of "survival of the fittest" here. If the deer isn't fit enough to escape the hunter's bullet, he deserved to die anyways. XD
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    Not to disagree with survival of the fittest (We wouldn't be here in the first place without it) but a bullet could kill even the most fit deer out there. A deer avoiding a bullet is mostly plain luck, if the human misteps and the deer hears it or the deer by chance moves out of the way at the last second. It really is humans have created these advanced tools so quickly the deer cannot evolve quick enough. Deer have evolved over millions of years to be fast to escape enemies. Humans created guns about so many odd years ago, and well now the deer species can't evolve in just 5 years or something so they can avoid guns. Most often humans destroy habitats and animal species faster than they can adapt, so really they screw it up. :(

    I don't really think the deer deserved to die either. Just put yourself in a deer's place. Even if you knew you weren't the 'best' deer out there, would you WANT to die? Or think you deserved it? I sure wouldn't want to die painfully at least. Bullets hurt.

    Lady Pearl said:
    I'm also 100% against hunting. Humans are so cruel to animals; they hunt them and eat their meat and such and such. In my opinion of the fact that humans aren't allowed to kill humans but they are allowed to kill animals is truly horrible and wrong. *makes a petition for the world to dine on plants and products*
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    *signs petition* I 100% agree :D I want to change that.

    Okay, this really saddens me that most people care more about their non-living material objects than a chicken who is being tortured (who has FEELINGS and FEELS PAIN. It is just like a human, it just can't communicate very well.) It sickens me.

    Another thing that sickens me is that a lot of people believe animals can be treated like this because it is to feed humans.

    No one listens to me when I say more often than not, it is much cheaper and can feed more people to grow plants and then eat the plants than it is to grow plants, feed them to animals than eat the animals.

    I have attached a PDF file explaining some of the tortures to animals for food and the advantages of being vegetarian. =) It might be a little biased but it has facts and reference.
     
    I'm against the hunting of animals for pleasure/wealth/due to them being "pests", but i don't mind as much if their meat is eaten.
    In more developed countries, im not keen on it because we have plenty of meat already from the domesticated animals (cows etc.) and i think it's just greedy in our case. In less developed countries, i dont mind them hunting food at all -all humans need meat, especially in the less developed countries where they have no vitamin tablets to replace the vitamins not gained thru meat.
    A large proportion of animals are meat-eating and eat species outside their own, so it's only natural for us to eat other animals.
    With hunting for the bad reasons (that i mentioned in my first sentance) im completely against. Killing animals just because we got hold of a gun if really quite pathetic (especially since the ones shooting arent the ones who created the guns, and guns are hardly hard to use) since the animals don't have a chance. With the nuisance aspect, people should learn to protect their meat (eg. sheep) better rather than resorting to just shooting the animals. Shooting them will not stop other families from trying to get the meat, and better protection such as the dog deterrant-style wild animal deterrant would teach the animals that they should avoid meat owned by a farmer.
     
    I'm stuck in between. ^^;

    Against~ If people are just hunting animals to stick the heads of them on their walls to look at and adore, then I just hate it! >.< It sickens me how people can do that! Its evil! They arent putting the animal to any use, they are just using it for popularity and something to talk about.

    For it~ If people hunt for survival then it is perfectly fine with me. ^^; People have to live some way or another, its part of life. Another reason is the population. >.> If people dont hunt the amount of deer, bears, and even wolves will over populate. ^^; And we dont want that. Woof~

    But either way, I hate the fact that animals are being killed. ;o;

    ~Karli
     
    i think animal hunting is wrong.
    I don't think we should hunt animals, i mean we already kill animals for food, but hunting them down ....that's just being really mean.
     
    Legendary_Pokegirl said:
    If people dont hunt the amount of deer, bears, and even wolves will over populate. ^^; And we dont want that.
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    Humans are already overpopulated, so is it okay to hunt them? Most people say no, but I think there should be laws like you can't have more than a certain amount of children, but if you already have that many it's okay, you just can't have more. And if you do have more than allowed, you are fined a lot and nothing happens to the kid. It's like no one is hurt but you can't have too many kids to prevent over population. I suspect someone is going to oppose me 100% but everyone does anyway... >_<
     
    I'm not with hunting nor against it. o_o; I'm kinda against if its for sport >.>; I mean, we wouldn't like it if people killed us just to have our fricking heads on the wall, now will we? =/

    I agree with Pokedragonfire. If we killed animals cus they are overpopulated, then they ought to slaughter any convicted prostitutes for doing it and risking having kids. *nods*

    *dies*
     
    I really don't like it... I could never do it myself. I could understand if someone had to do it to survive, but to just go out and shoot a beautiful deer just for the heck of it is wrong, in my opinion. I don't see how anyone could do it.

    And really, nobody needs to go out and hunt 'for food' these days when they can just drive to the nearest grocery store and buy what they need. I know they'd still be eating animals that were killed, but atleast they didn't go out and kill more wild ones. I just can't stand to see or hear about people that kill such pretty animals such as deer or whales just for their fur and whatnot. And same with the more common animals, like chickens and cows; people raise and kill way too many of them now just for money, and they really mistreat them in the process! (Trust me, my aunt and I have saved 3 chickens that were from a company that raised them just to be killed. They were in such bad shape, but atleast they're okay now.)
     
    Sport hunting sickens me without a doubt. How someone can go out and kill for "fun," I don't know. If you use the animal, though, I don't mind. That's part of how the human race got this far. Though I don't hunt myself, I can see why someone would hunt for food. I hope, though, that they also make use of he pelts, so on and so forth.
     
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